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I’m thinking about my first hank light now with these sw45k (well I guess I briefly has a D4S that I gifted)..

Anyway, I feel guilty, but my top choice is a D18 all sw45k contemplating a 1/3 mix of sw35 since I know the near 5000K of the sw45k is a bit cool for my taste, and my favorite tint ever has been 3500+4500 e21a.

The D18 has always been on my wishlist but low current per emitter has kept me away from sst20 variants.

K9.3 with sw45 main and 2000k e21a secondary is an intriguing idea as well.

A simple KR4 would round out my list of thoughts. Though ideally in the ArtieT Special® with a Ti/black Al combo.

What do y’all think

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K9.3 with sw45 main and 2000k e21a secondary is an intriguing idea as well.

WOW, that is by a mile the best setup I have heard suggested for the K9.3. That would be absolute finesse.

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I'm thinking about my first hank light now with these sw45k (well I guess I briefly has a D4S that I gifted).. Anyway, I feel guilty, but my top choice is a D18 all sw45k contemplating a 1/3 mix of sw35 since I know the near 5000K of the sw45k is a bit cool for my taste, and my favorite tint ever has been 3500+4500 e21a. The D18 has always been on my wishlist but low current per emitter has kept me away from sst20 variants. K9.3 with sw45 main and 2000k e21a secondary is an intriguing idea as well. A simple KR4 would round out my list of thoughts. Though ideally in the ArtieT Special® with a Ti/black Al combo. What do y'all think

im digging that k9.3 setup too, although I don't know about the e21a, I think the 2000k would be a really nice contrast!

 

if you do go with a kr4, let me know I'll ship you one of those Ti tubes for the cost of shipping. I have 2 extra and only use one of them on the black one kr4. 


im still debating my selection of light to accompany this mystical led. I think I'm back at d4, sand, warm white switch. But the dt8 keeps calling me.... and the gray kr4 does too.. man.. this is tough. 

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I came out of lurking mode to ask if anyone knows how limited this is? I already have four D4V2s from Hank: Black XPL 6500K, Grey XPL 5000K. Cyan e21A 4500K, and a Sand e21A in 3500K. I'm not normally a fan of rosy tints and definitely don't want to get anything too redundant but my FOMO alarm is going crazy. I don't even know what light I'd want this in but am leaning towards the 219b in 4500K in _something_.
Here is the thing about these LED's. If I just ask you if you want a pink/rosy light, chances are you wouldn't have any particular reason to say yes. But this is one of those things where you don't know you want/need something simply because you don't know it exists or how it benefits you. The thing about this tint is that it's like a final edit on pictures or a movie. When you see a magazine photo, it looks perfect. You don't know how it got to look like that, you just know it looks great. Well this is the case with the Nichia 219B in SW45K. If you were to bounce the rosy 219B light off a white wall and compare it to some of your other favorites, you still may not see "the big deal". White walls ins't where colors are gonna shine obviously. It's in the colorful area's of your life where you'll best enjoy this light. Don't compare it to the lights on a white wall, compare it in a garden, or on a beautiful painting. That's when you'll see how amazing the "rosy" tint is. Reds are a super important spectrum of color. Even just something simple like human skin becomes vibrant with 219b, then instantly dull with other LED's. It's something you just end up adoring after experiencing it fully like I told you, in real life. It's in real-life conditions that other LED's suffer or fare way worse. Others just don't cut it when you compare them this way. In a nutshell, Nichia 219B light is like the perfect color edit to real life. Thats not something you can just claim about any LED. And keep in mind, it's not just any ol' rosy tint either. It's ultra high, right side of the BBL High CRI rosy tint. Nichia 219B's are like if LED's were introduced to a brand new color and all of a sudden everyone wondered how the hell we ever got by without it. So yeah, maybe give the LED a shot. Nothing you have now compares to it, so your FOMO would ultimately be appropriate. There are few that saw they don't like the "rosy". OK, I don't know how much of a chance they gave it so I can say for sure why that is. All I know is if you like your movies and images to have proper editing and LITERALLY proper lighting (that makes colors pop), you may end up liking that effect on all life around you too, just saying. Best of luck and Happy Flashlight hunting

 

dude, you just convinced me i need this led. At the same time you scared me, as I have faced this turning point on my collecting before- where I get that new LED that has me selling half my collection because I realize I need all my Favorite lights to have this led in it. Although I feel like this emitter is a little to rare to do this with. So that's good lol.

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@Lojik wrote:
VonNadir wrote:
I came out of lurking mode to ask if anyone knows how limited this is? I already have four D4V2s from Hank: Black XPL 6500K, Grey XPL 5000K. Cyan e21A 4500K, and a Sand e21A in 3500K. I’m not normally a fan of rosy tints and definitely don’t want to get anything too redundant but my FOMO alarm is going crazy. I don’t even know what light I’d want this in but am leaning towards the 219b in 4500K in something.
Here is the thing about these LED’s. If I just ask you if you want a pink/rosy light, chances are you wouldn’t have any particular reason to say yes. But this is one of those things where you don’t know you want/need something simply because you don’t know it exists or how it benefits you. The thing about this tint is that it’s like a final edit on pictures or a movie. When you see a magazine photo, it looks perfect. You don’t know how it got to look like that, you just know it looks great. Well this is the case with the Nichia 219B in SW45K. If you were to bounce the rosy 219B light off a white wall and compare it to some of your other favorites, you still may not see “the big deal”. White walls ins’t where colors are gonna shine obviously. It’s in the colorful area’s of your life where you’ll best enjoy this light. Don’t compare it to the lights on a white wall, compare it in a garden, or on a beautiful painting. That’s when you’ll see how amazing the “rosy” tint is. Reds are a super important spectrum of color. Even just something simple like human skin becomes vibrant with 219b, then instantly dull with other LED’s. It’s something you just end up adoring after experiencing it fully like I told you, in real life. It’s in real-life conditions that other LED’s suffer or fare way worse. Others just don’t cut it when you compare them this way. In a nutshell, Nichia 219B light is like the perfect color edit to real life. Thats not something you can just claim about any LED. And keep in mind, it’s not just any ol’ rosy tint either. It’s ultra high, right side of the BBL High CRI rosy tint. Nichia 219B’s are like if LED’s were introduced to a brand new color and all of a sudden everyone wondered how the hell we ever got by without it. So yeah, maybe give the LED a shot. Nothing you have now compares to it, so your FOMO would ultimately be appropriate. There are few that saw they don’t like the “rosy”. OK, I don’t know how much of a chance they gave it so I can say for sure why that is. All I know is if you like your movies and images to have proper editing and LITERALLY proper lighting (that makes colors pop), you may end up liking that effect on all life around you too, just saying. Best of luck and Happy Flashlight hunting

 


dude, you just convinced me i need this led. At the same time you scared me, as I have faced this turning point on my collecting before- where I get that new LED that has me selling half my collection because I realize I need all my Favorite lights to have this led in it. Although I feel like this emitter is a little to rare to do this with. So that’s good lol.

Well I can tell you that at least this LED will be totally worth it. I have not regretted going team rosy for a second.

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I’ve never had nichia led’s before – might stick some of these in a D4SV2, anybody done that yet?

D4V2 x 2 - XP-L HI V2 5D 4000K
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Yeah. Hank probably can’t do e21a secondaries.

PM incoming Artie.

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Hot cakes sale is on. Big Smile Really tempting. Been thinking of getting new EDC light and KR4 or D4V2 has been on my mind for a long time. Good thing they don’t come green, but still that cyan looks cool and with 2×3500k+2×4500k it would be pretty awesome.

Kinda hoping these are sold before I made my mind and they probably will.

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@Lojik wrote:
VonNadir wrote:
I came out of lurking mode to ask if anyone knows how limited this is? I already have four D4V2s from Hank: Black XPL 6500K, Grey XPL 5000K. Cyan e21A 4500K, and a Sand e21A in 3500K. I’m not normally a fan of rosy tints and definitely don’t want to get anything too redundant but my FOMO alarm is going crazy. I don’t even know what light I’d want this in but am leaning towards the 219b in 4500K in something.

Here is the thing about these LED’s. If I just ask you if you want a pink/rosy light, chances are you wouldn’t have any particular reason to say yes. But this is one of those things where you don’t know you want/need something simply because you don’t know it exists or how it benefits you.

The thing about this tint is that it’s like a final edit on pictures or a movie. When you see a magazine photo, it looks perfect. You don’t know how it got to look like that, you just know it looks great. Well this is the case with the Nichia 219B in SW45K.

If you were to bounce the rosy 219B light off a white wall and compare it to some of your other favorites, you still may not see “the big deal”. White walls ins’t where colors are gonna shine obviously. It’s in the colorful area’s of your life where you’ll best enjoy this light. Don’t compare it to the lights on a white wall, compare it in a garden, or on a beautiful painting. That’s when you’ll see how amazing the “rosy” tint is. Reds are a super important spectrum of color. Even just something simple like human skin becomes vibrant with 219b, then instantly dull with other LED’s. It’s something you just end up adoring after experiencing it fully like I told you, in real life. It’s in real-life conditions that other LED’s suffer or fare way worse. Others just don’t cut it when you compare them this way. In a nutshell, Nichia 219B light is like the perfect color edit to real life. Thats not something you can just claim about any LED. And keep in mind, it’s not just any ol’ rosy tint either. It’s ultra high, right side of the BBL High CRI rosy tint. Nichia 219B’s are like if LED’s were introduced to a brand new color and all of a sudden everyone wondered how the hell we ever got by without it.

So yeah, maybe give the LED a shot. Nothing you have now compares to it, so your FOMO would ultimately be appropriate. There are few that saw they don’t like the “rosy”. OK, I don’t know how much of a chance they gave it so I can say for sure why that is. All I know is if you like your movies and images to have proper editing and LITERALLY proper lighting (that makes colors pop), you may end up liking that effect on all life around you too, just saying.

Best of luck and Happy Flashlight hunting

Thank you, I hadn’t considered it from such a point of view so you may have sold me! What do you think from Hank will get the best out of this emitter? Another D4V2? I don’t really need anything so it will just be a showpiece and occasional edc. Maybe I will take the leap with the 4500K if it’s the one to get and would be like owning a piece of flashlight history lol.

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Hello, all! Y’all sold me on the 4500k too. I just purchased my first Hank light! A D4V2 in all copper, with an amber backlight, and quad 219b 4500k’s. I’m so freakin’ excited, it’s going to be really hard to wait for it to come in the mail.

Been lurking for awhile now and have been putting off ordering my first Hank light for awhile now. I’ve been very indecisive because I’ve been foolishly trying to figure out what would be “the perfect Hank light if I only ever buy one”, which is silly, because I know myself better than that. There will be more to come.

My name is Ryan and I’m from Texas. I don’t know if an introduction is customary here like it is over in LPF. My hyperfocus recently shifted from lasers to flashlights, so after hanging out with the good folks on LPF for awhile and purchasing a couple of incredible lasers from Sanwu and another one on BS&T from a really cool and capable laser maker in Vietnam, I started obsessing about flashlights. Lasers are a new love for me, flashlights are not. But even though I’ve loved my flashlights since I was a kid and always had a little incandescent mini-mag on me, I never bought any lights that were just really cool until now. As far as EDC as an adult, I started with a Streamlight Microstream, which, to be honest, still gets some time in the pocket because it’s tiny, weighs nothing, and I don’t mind if it gets lost or broken. That thing combined with a Benchmade Bugout is pretty much unnoticeable in the pocket, and doesn’t even weigh down loose pockets of thin shorts. Then awhile back I got a copper Olight i5T EOS because I wanted a AA light for work, because I am a wildland firefighter, among other things, and there is ALWAYS AA batteries around in that line of work. I lost that light and recently bought an aluminum one for work and a brass one because it looked shiny, and I also purchased a copper mini warrior from Olight, which I really like, except I don’t care at all for the tint and coolness of the emitter. But that’s Olight for you. I also recently purchased an Acebeam H17 with 3× 219C’s in 5000k for around the house, and that’s a pretty fun little headlamp. In addition, I recently convinced our district to get us Acebeam H30’s and T36’s. I wanted to get us zebralights, but when factoring in the entire context, the Acebeams just made more sense.

But now, now I have purchased a Hank light. My first. And as luck would have it, with the legendary Nichia 219B’s.

We’ll see how long it is before I can’t wait any longer and order a DT8 as well, lol. I really want some 219B’s in 3500k.

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Nice light! Welcome to BLF!! We are very informal here, but an intro is fine, we'll take it!

You certainly started out with a winner, D4V2 in full copper w/219b's is certainly a flagship of Hank's. Don't worry if it gets hot quick - it's gonna happen. The copper is so conductive of heat, the heat goes almost instantly to your hand on turbo, but that's a good thing for the LED's because the heat is pulled away from them quickly. so if you wear gloves and let it rip, only thing to worry about is the battery, but still over heat protection will kick in, and the battery can handle up to 80C or so, so should be good.

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Welcome PineyTinecones,

Allow me to second Tom E in that your purchase of a D4v2 in copper with 219B’s is incredible. That’s a light I’ve only dreamt about. I can’t believe Hank finally pulled it off. Sadly, even though I wish I could have exactly that light, I HAD to go with the D18 in all 219B’s, that’s just too hard to pass up.

Plus, the most beautiful copper light to me is still the Fireflies E07 and that one already came in 219B’s. So in my case, If I got the D4v2, it would still be in second place to me and I would still be EDCing my Copper E07 anyway.

It’s the D18 in 219B’s that’s the monster in the room for Hank lights. That will absolutely fill 18 Nichia 219B- sized holes in my heart. No light I have in 219B exceeds 7000lumen (which is still out of this world). But now in a shocking turn of events, my new D18 will produce 10,000 FREAKIN Lumen of 219B immaculatness. I simply do not have the willpower to pass that up, I am just a man after all.

I have no clue how long Hank will have these LED’s. But if he still has them on my next purchase. I may not have the power to resist exactly the light you bought. Rest assured you made THEE perfect choice. Actually, you seriously got to BLF at the absolute most perfect time you lucky bastard. Smile These LED’s in Hanks hands in this quantity is unprecedented. I hope you enjoy.

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What do you think from Hank will get the best out of this emitter? Another D4V2? I don’t really need anything so it will just be a showpiece and occasional edc.
I went with the DT8 in cyan, with 219b 4500k.

The DT8 is ideal for carrying God-tint emitters in a non-mule config. The added max output is extremely nice for lower-output emitters like E21a and 219b.

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Welcome to BLF PineyTinecones! You’ve ordered an awesome flashlight. The Nichia 219B sw45k LEDs are one of my favorites.

I’d rather use my flashlight around the house than turn on the lights.

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I ordered a D4v2 (Al) with sw35. I have lights with sw30, sw40 and sw45k as well as E21A in 2000K, 2200K, 3500K and 4500K. I even have a K9.3 with sw40 on Ch1 and sw30 on Ch2 (one of my favorite lights!). Just need to try some sw35 to round out the collection.

I don’t particularly care too much for the sw45k. I find it to be a bit too cool for my tastes (typically measures around 4800K). Also, while I appreciate a nice negative Duv, the sw45k is a bit too much of a good thing. I find it even washes out some muted greens to a more grayish tone. I actually prefer the E21A 4500K to the sw45k.

The exception would be the new E07x. I suspect they might actually be using sw45 rather than sw45k unless they are using a wildly different tint bin than what I’m familiar with. They are a bit warmer and far less pink (but still pleasantly rosy) than my other sw45k lights (including my OG E07). I quite enjoy it.

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I ordered a D4v2 (Al) with sw35. I have lights with sw30, sw40 and sw45k as well as E21A in 2000K, 2200K, 3500K and 4500K. I even have a K9.3 with sw40 on Ch1 and sw30 on Ch2 (one of my favorite lights!). Just need to try some sw35 to round out the collection. I don't particularly care too much for the sw45k. I find it to be a bit too cool for my tastes (typically measures around 4800K). Also, while I appreciate a nice negative Duv, the sw45k is a bit too much of a good thing. I find it even washes out some muted greens to a more grayish tone. I actually prefer the E21A 4500K to the sw45k. The exception would be the new E07x. I suspect they might actually be using sw45 rather than sw45k unless they are using a wildly different tint bin than what I'm familiar with. They are a bit warmer and far less pink (but still pleasantly rosy) than my other sw45k lights (including my OG E07). I quite enjoy it.

 

This is great info for me to read, thank you Rayoui. i am still debating what I am going to get. As certain as i was about just getting sw45k, last night when i was about to order 2-3 lights with sw45k, i thought a couple things:

i'm still worried its too cool

maybe ill just get 1 d4 in Al and check out this emitter before ordering 3 lights with it

i think i need to a sw35/sw45k mix, maybe

and, what about FireFlies? both of the lights i have are also available in sw45k D220 (thats what it says on their site), maybe i should read what thats all about

 

 

so.. i still have not ordered. i know i will probably really like sw45k, but my other concern is if i order- 1 light in sw45k, 1 light in sw35, and 1 light with a mix - im worried im going to like one of them drastically more than the other 2. and selling them wouldn't be a problem, but regretting i didn't order all 3 of them the same way would be a problem, for me because at that point it'll be to late to order them again. i guess there is no way for me to know until i order them.

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Thank y’all for the warm salutations, as well as the endorsements for my choice in light! That really feels good to hear all that. I’m exceedingly confident now in my decision. I appreciate it, everyone.

@Tom E, thanks for the heads up about the heat. Knowing what to expect makes a big difference.

@Lojik, wow, that Fireflies E07 really is beautiful. I didn’t know there was a 21700 option like that available. I’m a big fan of 21700’s. That extra capacity is noice.
And I was thinking that same thing! It seems like I got really lucky and my adhd hyperfocus shifted to flashlights (and specifically Hank lights) and I stumbled across the right BLF thread at just the right time. That never happens to me! Very fortuitous.

So… I couldn’t bear it. This morning ordered a DT8 in dark gray, with a warm white backlight, and quad SW35’s. I asked Hank if he could tack it on to my first order and ship ‘em together. ZeroAir did a review on a dark gray DT8 a couple of days ago that I found this morning, and those pictures in the review sealed the deal for me. Those things look so cool. I had to have one. Not only that, but I really like warm lights and my FOMO has been hard to silence. I really didn’t want to miss out on these 219b options. And until I read all the stuff y’all’ve been saying about the sw45k’s, I had intended to get the sw35’s. Now I’ll have both, and I won’t have to regret not pulling the trigger. It was definitely a splurge and not at all the responsible thing to do, but I am only a man after all. People don’t think it be like it is but it do.

Thanks again for the kind words, and thank you for the wealth of information worth digesting in this thread. Very edifying.

Oh crap, I do have a question, I almost forgot:
What kind of continuous discharge rate do I need in an 18650 for my new lights? I have 2x button tops that are 15A 3000mAh, and 2x flat tops that are 10A 3500mAh. Dang, and I just read that flat tops are required. So is 10A high enough drain, or do I need to order something else?

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10A is more than enough for normal use. If you are going for absolute maximum brighness on short turbo bursts, you could use a higher amp cell like a VTC5 or 30Q, but your high capacity cells will work just fine. (Won’t make a difference with the 219b versions of Hank’s lights since the FET is disabled).

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Thank you, @Rayoui! That’s good news. I hope I end up liking the sw45k more than you, and I hope we both thoroughly enjoy our new sw35!

I know this question has been asked plenty of times on Reddit and here as well, and I have been researching it thoroughly all last night, but I wanted to get y’alls opinion on it too:

If I were to get a KR1, which emitter do you think would serve me best for that host? Also, which one do y’all personally prefer? It wouldn’t be EDC, it would sit on the piece of furniture near the door that I use to take the dog out at night. 100 meters would be a common distance I would want to light up, but the ability to hit a good deal further than that too would be nice. I live out in the country and there’s a lot of critters out here. The only ones I really worry about with my small dog are owls, but I also like to see all the wildlife that always graces us with their presence at night. We have a few foxes, skunks, armadillos, possums, raccoons, deer, coyotes, Chuck-will’s-widow (my absolute favorite bird), as well as some wild cats of assorted sizes, from bobcat on up to mountain lion, although I’ve never personally seen a cougar. They’ve come around over the years though.

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If I were to get a KR1, which emitter do you think would serve me best for that host? Also, which one do y’all personally prefer?

From what I’ve read, the W1 Osram emitter has the longest throw, and that’s what I picked for my KR1. The W2 is a bit brighter and has a wider, more useable hot spot but runs much hotter and doesn’t throw quite as far.

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Thank you, @Rayoui! That’s good news. I hope I end up liking the sw45k more than you, and I hope we both thoroughly enjoy our new sw35!

I know this question has been asked plenty of times on Reddit and here as well, and I have been researching it thoroughly all last night, but I wanted to get y’alls opinion on it too:

If I were to get a KR1, which emitter do you think would serve me best for that host? Also, which one do y’all personally prefer? It wouldn’t be EDC, it would sit on the piece of furniture near the door that I use to take the dog out at night. 100 meters would be a common distance I would want to light up, but the ability to hit a good deal further than that too would be nice. I live out in the country and there’s a lot of critters out here. The only ones I really worry about with my small dog are owls, but I also like to see all the wildlife that always graces us with their presence at night. We have a few foxes, skunks, armadillos, possums, raccoons, deer, coyotes, Chuck-will’s-widow (my absolute favorite bird), as well as some wild cats of assorted sizes, from bobcat on up to mountain lion, although I’ve never personally seen a cougar. They’ve come around over the years though.

To your earlier question about the batteries: I only mostly use my 21700 light’s and buy way more of those batteries so I’m not too well-versed on the 18650 options. But, for my 4 emitter Fireflies PL47G2 (also 21700 yet super tiny) I use a 10A battery. I tried the Samsung 40T which is 25-ish Amps and that one tuned the LED’s purple which is very bad for the emitters. But that same battery on my 7-emitter Fireflies E07 works perfectly fine. So I’d say for a 4-emitter 219B light, stick to 10A. for the 7-8 Emitter 219B lights, the 20-25Amp batteries are usually what will give you full power. One of the things I’m not sure about is how Hank sets his up his lights so it’s entirely possible that 10A will work across the board based on what I think I’m hearing others say, but maybe not so much once the battery starts to discharge.

Now as for your KR1, I don’t have one and I haven’t seen one of these smaller throwers in person with an Osram, but I do know it gets much wider than the same emitter in a much throwier host like the K1. So maybe the Osram would be perfect for what you want. I was gonna suggest the SBT90.2 in that host. I don’t know if Hank does it but I’ve seen a few people have it so maybe he does. It gets hot and steps down fast, but for short bursts, you will love it for spotting animals at night and things like that. Maybe there are more efficient LED’s that throw almost as good and will do what you want, not too sure honestly. But I do know that the SBT90 is monster and would be pretty fun for what you want it for. I love going outside and blasting my SBT90.2 lights.

Maybe a D18 would work even better for outside late-night spotting, it’s a wall of light and should still work great at 100 yards or so. And it might come in handy in may other situations too, but thats a significantly larger light with 3 batteries.

Well let me not further complicate things for you, best of luck. I hope you find something that adds some fun to your walks.

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jon_slider wrote:

photos are not all set to the exact same white balance

ultimately, each person has to buy and try each LED for themselves

about pinkness.. it all depends what it is compared to
the sw45k is definitely the Most Pink, but the SW40 also looks slightly pink, particularly compared to low cri cool white
to me the sw35 has zero pink component, it is one of the reasons I am not a fan..
Im totally biased towards the sw45k, because it is cool enough for daytime EDC

at night, warmer colors work better.. whether that is 4000, or 3500, or 3000k, depends on what other light source is in the environment, that is influencing the white balance of the observers brain.

I use 3000k incandescent house lights.. what I like at night will be different than what I like during daylight hours

about pink.. at night my sw45k does not look pink, because it is cooler than my ambient light, and that blue tone is more noticeable than any pink tint

conversely, during the day, I Do see the pink tint, when looking at the beam on a white piece of paper.. this is because daylight is greener..

to really quantify Tint, and pinkness, we have to look at spectrum tests that include the numerical Tint value for DUV.. basically, the LED with tint below BBL will have negative DUV.. most LEDs have tint above BBL and this will be positive DUV.. the sw45k is the main exception.. it is one of the most strongly negative DUV LEDs I know of

please dont buy an LED because you think it will look as pink as my photos.. those are just how the camera sees the comparison to the other lights in the photo

when using an LED light as a single source, the brain adapts its interpretation of light to make it look white.. pink is a figment of the visualization.. LOL

Your analysis on tints and high CRI is definitely top notch! You explain it better than almost all of us do.

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Hank Wang wrote:
Please order D4V2 TI on the site, and let us know the order number, so that we can send the sandblasted version. SST-20 should have slightly longer throw than the XP-L HI version.

Hi Hank
This afternoon I ordered a D4V2 Brass with the Nichia 219B 3500K
Send a e-mail that I want the Antique Brass Version.

Is this still the correct way?
Will I get a confirmation mail that I will get the Antique Brass?

Best regards

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Keep in mind Hank suddenly has over twice the normal workload, thanks to 219b. Give him time.

Normally, email the request first, when he says it’s ok, then you order from the site and immediately send a reply saying that you’ve done so.

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JFJinCo, thank you for the scoop on the Osrams.

@Lojik, how do you carry your 21700’s? EDCing a 21700 in general seems pretty cumbersome, especially something in copper. Do you use cargo pockets? A pouch? Holster? Fanny pack? I’m curious. I don’t know anything about this SBT90.2! I’m gonna have to look it up. The D18 looks incredible, and is absolutely something I’m going to have to get eventually. And I think your spot on, that it would serve me well for lots of purposes. I don’t mind a big light. If it’s not something I expect to EDC, then as long as it fits in a backpack or cargo pockets I’m into it. I was using 2D and 3C maglites not too many trips around the sun ago. Speaking of, I think it’s weird that there’s so few larger elongated light options these days, like 2× 21700 end on end. Stuff like that. But with all that said, I’m probably not going to get a D18 yet. The KR1 comes in at about half the price, and I’ve already spent so much on the D4V2 and the DT8.

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So lemme see if I’m in the ballpark with the emitter options for the KR1:

W1- throwiest option, only cool white, tighter hotspot than W2
W2- brighter, with likely a more functionally spread out hotspot than the W1, but faster battery drain
SST-20- pretty throwy, good balance of cri and power, good tint at higher power, bad (green) at lower power
SST-40- ?
XP-L Hi-?

Not sure how the last two compare to the rest. I have read that the XP-L Hi have better tints than the SST-20 and they have a good color range, but aren’t as throwy and aren’t hi-cri except the warmest one. And I think the SST-40 is what’s in my Warrior Mini, but in a gross 6500k. If I were to use the KR1 most often for shorter durations, and almost always at turbo or high, for the purposes listed in my previous post, am I correct in thinking that an SST-20 would serve me well? Or should I consider the XP-L Hi? Or just go with the Osram for MAXIMUM THROOOOW?

Thanks!

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Mark M, jon_slider’s explanations and pictures have been clutch in helping me pick what emitters I want in my first Hank lights! I just wanted to second what you said. I know nothing, but I do know that that s*** has been extremely helpful to this noob.

DrDevil, I was initially going to get the sandblasted Ti D4V2, but I emailed him first and he said that he was out, but that a reseller jlhawaii808 had them in stock. I don’t know if he’s out of the antique brass or not, but I probably would have emailed him first. Btw, it looks like jlhawaii808 does have antique brass D4V2 in stock.

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PineyTinecones wrote:
@Lojik, how do you carry your 21700’s? EDCing a 21700 in general seems pretty cumbersome, especially something in copper. Do you use cargo pockets? A pouch? Holster? Fanny pack? I’m curious.

Most will say that a 21700 Light is too large to EDC. I’d say it depends on what you’re used to carrying. I don’t like the idea of getting used to carrying the absolute tiniest lights. You’re naturally gonna think everything is too big. I prefer a light that will work for a while usefully. My Nichia lights don’t need ultra high discharge batteries so I can take advantage of the larger capacity batteries. Also, I have been in situations where if I’d have had a smaller true EDC light, it just wouldn’t have cut mustard. So I really am used to the size. When I got the Copper E07. It took like a day to get used to, but when I went back and picked up my other lights, they felt way too light. Now I really love the weight of my Copper E07. And actually, I think of it as an enhanced roll of pennies for protection. You never know when someone might need a little fist kiss. A punch holding that light would pack a wallop. Just normal for a flashlight to weight this to me now. Also, I just pocket it, I usually have a few packet so that’s where it goes.

And FYI, the Pl47g2 21700 light is somehow still shorter than the D4v2.and other 18650 light, actually even some 18350 headlamps. It’s a great light. Used to EDC it but missed that higher output and went back to more full sized lights.

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Frostcream wrote:
Keep in mind Hank suddenly has over twice the normal workload, thanks to 219b. Give him time.

Normally, email the request first, when he says it’s ok, then you order from the site and immediately send a reply saying that you’ve done so.

That´s a good advice Thumbs Up
I will keep that in mind – Thank you

In my case everything is fine. Meanwhile I received the confirmation mail Cool

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Excellent!

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Good deal, DrDevil! I’m curious how quickly that tarnish will rub off in a pocket or hand, because I think that will look great! Like, for example, if the really raised portions of the knurling are brassy and the lower space between them is black.

Can someone help me make the choice between going Osram W1 or W2 vs SST-20 in 4000k for the KR1? I would be mostly using it in high, so the poor tint of the SST-20’s at lower levels wouldn’t be as much of a deterrent. But if my other flashlights are already both nice, hi-cri lights, should I just with the Osram for maximum throw and to juxtapose the KR1 with my new 219b lights? Or go with the SST-20 and have nothing but hi-cri goodness?

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