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For Niwalker question their website is not reachable for me (error time connection) since Chinese New Year.
So itās normal they donāt answer during Chinese new year but website offline is strange.
Not light for pure thrower, I donāt think they made time for spec/ and for ES2 they āanecdotalā all of spec are visibly based on XPL-HD x3 head only
Receiv today
First impression are very good, the general quality is greatly improved compare to my ES2.
Massive spill beam ,like hope, just a feelling, for me with caution around 3k lumens at max rampe 6k on turbo (I think Iām below with safety margins) with 3 head Samsung.
Colors temperature and CRI seem good compare to my MF01 mini 4k and Acebeam E70 GT-FC 40.
I dont now if they have thermal control, no indication but after few try lot of heat on head at turbo and high output keep
Only ramp step , no smooth
No cell inside
look forward to trying it out tonight for more testing, but itās consistent with what I expected iām combine them with X65 mini 5000K (4000k in reality) that could be complementary.
I take MF01 mini 4000K E70 and Convoy M21B GT-FC 40 4500k for compare color temperature/CRI
Take also my 2 other head 1 head 3 XPL HD and 1 head OSRAM PUSRA1.PM (3W)
MF01S 4000k and ES3 with 3 Samsung seem be good combo too, try later.
Post scriptum: After read the test the 1lumen rewiew when he say 1 XPL-HD have only 500 lumens iāve try with mine:
Under certain conditions (very rare and unknow after many try) I could see the light twice by 2 the current of 1 head, for unknow reason, use the switch 1-1 and 2 head for resolve issu.
Practicality is good, 10 seconde for change 1 head
For a space of 1 21700 cell you have 3 head
You can mix different beam and color temperature according to what you desire (depending on what Niwalker offer)
Buy just a head and no full light
FYI, the niwalker website was still up about a week ago and then went down. They never responded to me which was even prior to the Chinese new year, I guess they started celebrating early. not sure what this means as I donāt have a lot of experience corresponding with them.
Iāve contact them to skype before 14/01 and they respond under 24h with daily connection on skype.
Except Chinese new year, no connection to skype since
No experience before too, one of reason I do this thread, my first buy on their website who until then, did not inspire me confidence, I bough my ES2 on Banggood
Edit:
First thought after a few hours of use
I confirm my first think, in progress on many points, iām very happy.
3 Bad point for the moment
- Max ramp too low, the difference between turbo is clearly x3, compare to ES2 with max rampe realy close tu turbo, turbo is pretty nice with good runtime for 9 Samsung 4000k but is this configuration 3x3 LED the max rampe seem low, 1X 3 LED + 2x1 LED ord 2x3 LED+ 1x1 LED should fix this problem
We need 1 x 1 LED head for throw hop come soon.
-OSRAM PUSRA1.PM single is terrible 3000K with pink tint but associate to XPL HD 3 LED head is not bad, bad because the osram have same throw seem the XPL HI 3 LED of ES2 no purpose for this ES3 (So the beam is the best for 3 LED configuration, for me, but then the tint and the general rendering of OSRAM PUSRA1.PM are to vomit)
XPL HD and the Samsung LED are pretty same beam profil
Bonus issu; Cell shake inside, no breaking connection but little shake perceptible
Very nice heat dissipation, I had planned to use it as āwinter lightā ( >10 degres celcius) 5Ā° tonight pretty nice, for the power and the size very nice runtime on turbo and quick heat down when using other flashlight, max ramp sustainable.
Wall/light flood beam working range 0-20 meter max rampe 0-40 meter turbo a big bubble of High CRI, no hotspot.
Iāve try combo X65 mini/ ES3 turbo, king of light 0-300 meter beam, WOW
Around 3.6-3.5 volt we can see from our eyes power decrease in coincidence with the button that turns red, but the light keep a good relative power in turbo. (no stessfull red button blinking and other, a pretty nice and smooth red fixe, I like. )
I donāt try for the moment under 3.4 volt, iām not fan to pass my cell under 3.3-3.2 volt, for this night iāve just put cell per cell for feed the monster and itās was pretty nice.
The temperature and CRI of the Samsung LED appears to be compliant, I passed under bridges with great graffiti the rendering was magnificent compared to my MF01 mini/Acebeam E70 ( same CRI and tint, but the wider and homogeneity of the ES3 is so great for that, just WOW again ) the shades and red/brown contrast of the leaves of some tree in winter was also in line with what can be expected from a 90 CRI 4000k
Probably more reflexion tomorrow, nice try for tonight even though this lamp sorely misses throw, hope throw head soon.
Any pics of the tint on this emitter? Rosy tint for WW emitters is a plus for most people here as most prefer below the bbl tint. As long as it is not literally pink.
Not completely pink but enough to be clearly felt to the eye
Iām planning on taking her tonight.
Not expected to carry a tripod though.
I will look for found a more or less white wall and take a quick comparative photo series
Edit: CRI 80 for OSRAM however.
Edit 2 After night shot
Lot off fail to enhanced picture, all of raw loose the original colors.
I still have a lot of work in perspective.
So I put the original JPG
ALL in turbo
WARNING
After fail multiple setting Iāve choose full auto setting for night picture shot so Lumix modifie shutter time which has the effect of balancing the power hence the little difference between P20iX and TM9K.
I made some video who I post later better for see output difference.
Do not take into account the 2 panels on the right they are ultra reflective so the photo is overall not under or too exposed.
ES3 3x3 Samsung head
MF01 Mini Luminus SST20 4000k
Convoy m21b GT-FC40 4000-4500k
Emisar D4SV2 XPL-HI 5000K frosty optic
ES3 1x3 CREE XPL-HD head
ES3 1x3 Samsung head
ES3 1x3 Osram head
ES3 1x3 Osram and 1x3 CREE XPL-HD head
ES3 1x3 Samung and 1x3 CREE XPL-HD head
ES3 1x3 Samsung and 1x3 Osram head
ES3 1x3 CREE and 1x3 Samsung and 1x3 Osram head
ES2 1x3 CREE XPL-HI head
Nitecore P20iX
Nitecore TM9K.
Nightwatch NSX4E SFS80 LED
What did you think of this first nightshot?
Edit:
Add video compare ES3, M21B, D4SV2, MF01 mini
I find it quite representative of the use that can be made with ES3, Close range/wide space.
Iāve an other in stock, on other spot, I still have to cut it up and add the various superposition
Iām not driver expert but I know recognize three identical circuitry
I donāt know what that say, anyone can you tell me ?
I also notice, output is not cap, put the max they can always
New picture and video later
For this night shot objectif was show the perfect complementarity of ES3 and MF01S for High CRI outdoor session
I always take TM9K and I take EC06 for try too my night picture
So TM9K and EC06 on picture but no on video
Picture:
I change format of picture, I think 2X2 seem be better for compare
I love this tree 15 years that I pass near and I like to test my light on.
A sample of CRI tree in winter with his brown/red leaves.
Hello Mike,
Thank you for your message. we checked we didnāt get email and Wechat for these question. We got Skype message for the similar question, and replied already, please check, thank you!
The Osram Pusra emitters is neutral white, and it is flood beam. The trow distance of 1 head with 3 Osram emitters is about 210meters. And the lumen of one head with Osram is 2350lumen.
The throw distance of 2 heads with OSRAM NW is about 225meters.
The throw distance of 3 heads with OSRAM NW is about 250meters.
Yes, you can interchange them yourself.
Osram nm1 green light is the currently best throw, And we will release the throw head with white light very soon .
After use around 50 hour this light , iām able to close my experience with this light on this thread.
I confirm my good think since the order, the reception and my first use.
The evolution compare to my ES2 is clear, both visually that the feelings during my uses that I will set out in several points.
- ES2 head on his conception ācutā the O ring on the ES2 body, not on ES3 you can see on picture body conception is different and now button is on the head and not on the tailcup.
They add removable tailcup, remove tailcup is very smooth with very low resistance (potentially
to low).
Overall this system is pretty nice to operate.
-The host quality is also increase both in aesthetics and in the manufacture, the heat fine are prety small and nice space between her, USB-C cover port is weel integrate, donāt āpopā with heat does not hook and therefore does not open unexpectedly
-Thermal heat dissipation have too a major upgrade, I really didnāt expect so much, the capacity to tank heat in first time and capacity to evacuat in second.
When the light is in real overheat, head, body and cell inside, all is in high temperature, output drop to low, the passage of the state āoverheatā to āwarmā after 2 to 3 minutes is really impressive.
Iām really talking about deep cooling, not surface ācoldā and inside in fusion, they can leave in turbo with more than one minute.
Iāve Astrolux EC03 (XHP 50.2) more similar to compare itās clearly to world separate, for a light with 3 CREE LED and other with 9 Samsung LED , I expected something similar, finaly not ES3 is so superior O_0.
3 head, 9 LED Iāve bought this this with thik to use it for winter light (10 celcius degres and under) short burst in complement with other light soda/pop can light.
The perfect complement with my MF01S on vids in my other post is clear but ES3 surprise to exceed my expectations and can do 1-2 minute turbo and cooldown with 2-3 minute of MF01S use in max rampe in perfect complementarity with low overheat.
Not only for short burst but medium burst is clearly reachable.
I doubt when has these abilities in summer <10 celcius degres in this configuration 3x3 LED, but on 1x3 LED/2x1 LED For total of 5 LED should be able to do.
But not for the moment with actual choice of head, hope Niwalker release more and more head for this pretty nice light
The PRICE for budget light forum, in middle of thread in need to speak
-ES2 was release in price around 75$ who contain 1 ES2 body and 2 head ( 1 CREE XPL-HI 1x3 LED and one 1x1 SEOUL UV LED)
80$ for ES3 body with 3 head of 3 OSRAM LED so 3x3 LED
+10 so 90$ with 3 samsung HEAD 3x3
+20$ so 100$ with 3 CREE head 3x3 (XPL-HD only, for the moment a bad point)
So, in fact with major uprgrade a base price under the ES2, for me.
Itās for by the light itself, if you buy other head in detail itās 26$ FOR CREE head, 22$ for Samsung head and 16$ for OSRAM head; for ONE head.
Itās seem be too high price, itās for me a bad point off curse but I donāt think Niwalker make more benefit with the actual price of ES3 package body+ 3 head.
-Potentialy a reduction after 2 and more head buy in detail would be more appreciable.
But on ES2 and ES3 head price in detail are in close/same price, Niwalker make is benefit here, for me.
About head, what a major evolution, you can see me picture on previous post, iām think I donāt have any other word to describe that.
Just note that the heads no longer unscrew by the front that seems sealed/not easy unscrew, but by the back.
Electronic/drivers improve, iāve no ability to name it disassemble or analyze but I able to see output dramaticaly drop when cell drop under <3.7 volt.
-The following is a pure feeling.
ES2 have this āissuā with celle under 3.7V light heat up very very low and output is clearly reduce and visible to the naked eye.
ES3 have relative good battery indicator, blue ring became red ring under 3.7V and red blink ring under 3.3V
-You can see in my Playlist ES3/MF01S perfect duo 1/3 (check timeline) I show the ES3 is red ring, you can see under 3.7v cell the output lvl is sustain relatively high, sufficient to increase the temperature significantly also.
I use Samsung 40T, 50E and Molicel p42a, even with a red blink with 50E (>3.3V) i was very suprised of the output
ES3 keep proportinaly voltage a prettty nice and usable output for a cell until 3.3 V
On my 50E (near new) I put inside 3800-4000 Mah with my Opus BT-C3100 after use in ES3
For my ES3 use the best on the cell put inside, another good evolution compare to ES2.
ES2 have 2 head ES3 have 3 head, whit is better management of power ES3 open many more way to mix beam/colors:
Fun fact, after mix my warious head and try to mix it iāve re screw my 3 samsung head and continue my walk, after few minute, llight off i see only 2 head have power glove ālightā
Iāve walk without notion only 2 head active and i was thinking iāve my 3 head in action.
This is visible on my picture with 1 Samsung head is not beat clearly beaten by 3 Samsung head.
But iāve can try and feel it 3 head is clearly on the perfect efficient use Lumens/heat, Lumen/watt
Clearly 3 head made close output compare to 2 head but with 3 head a same lumen 3 head generate less head compare to 2
So with this feeling I think 1x3 and 2x1 the 2 single LED in optic for better throw can be a very very nice mix beam pattern/range/heat generation, or 2X3 and 1x1.
All of this improve compare to ES2, ES3 with is 3 head has a very high potential to make various and near perfect beam.
Niwalker have a prety nice material on his hand to create this, hope they release lot of various and different head
For conclusion:
Only two brand make me happy in the laste 3 years, Niwalker with ES serieās and Nightwatch with their exeptional host and recently put inside chinese LED whith nice beam.
Iāve found on this light a near perfection to my use I didnāt have high CRI light with this beam Flood/wall light, no hotspot, a massive bubble of high CRI to magnify a closed environment, in front of you at around 30 metter 130 degres of high CRI, wow.
Iāve found a really complement to light High CRI with hotspot, the perform, the quality, the general use, all is perfect, the complementarity with my MF01S is just perfect.
Iāve speak about more 50 hour of use, itās probably under estimate, iāve pass many entire night (12 18650 flat top cell and 8-10 21700) Iāve never enjoyed it so much a high CRI night the intensity of MF01S hotspot for <30 meter and the power of the 9 Samsung LED of my ES3 for close/>30 meter environment all in incredible performance.
Itās for night in forest.
On urban environment is also a wonderfull light, iāve speak about the under bridge with lot of graff, discover entire wall off 20-30-40-50 meter with the enourmous bubble of high CRI is unbeliveable, Iāve been through his with cool white 70 CRI, never on this proportion on high CRI.
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In other world for āurbexā for example itās juste unbelivable, not hotspot to self blind, but an incredible surface cover with a pretty high intensity, PFFFFFF
I used it so much that my Nitecore TM28 was jealous and need care and repair O_O
honestly, I wanted to invent it I couldnāt
I hesitate to buy a second ES3 for backup with CREE head, but the beam with XPL-HD is pretty close close to my TM9K (with less hostspot) so, itās not real utility for me
But if anyone donāt like TM9K for built in battery ES3 seem be good substitute if instant acces Turbo/strob is not importante feature
Reason I want XPL-HI head equal to my ES2 you can see on my beamshot picture XPL-HI of my ES2 have so much throw and for me, i use it 2 day ago for compare, itās really a perfect beam, I just can imagine 3x3 XPL-HI on my ES3 with the power/heat improvement.
I donāt know why Niwalker donāt release XPL-HI head same ES2 for ES3 itās really a bad point
My ES2 combinason 2x1 XPL-HI is so nice, Imagine 3x1 XPL-HI O__O
1x3 XPL-HI and 1x1 XPL-HI is so nice too , imagine 1x3 xpl-HI and 2x1 XPL-HI
Or 2x3 XPL-HI and one XPL-HI.
And itās the reason if finish my enthusiastic post with the actually bad point of ES3.
ES3 is a very very very nice light, a major evolution on ES serieās open way to exeptional mix beam profile/colors.
But actually the choice of head is too poorā¦
The disparition of XPL-HI LED on 1x3 or 1x1 head version between ES2 to ES3 is a shame.
This light can only reach the perfection if they purpose massiv choice of head, itās in his DNA.
It is in part for this that I have spent several ten hours to make live this thread.
I hope people discover this light and this brand to give Niwalker the means for create and release more choice for this product and potentially upgrade the futur of ES3 and ES serieās
Correction of eventualy fault and bad word tommorow,enough for tonight
I do not forbid myself to repost any image or video on this subject and potentially to make a rewiew of this light on dedicated section.
If you have any question about this light, if I can answer it I will.
This is a very intriguing platform. One very specific application that I can think of is having a single light that can be used to selectively use short wave, mid wave, and long wave UV LEDs and have the appropriate filter glass in front of each LED setā¦.
I see there is already a LW UV option (365) with presumably a ZWB filter. Adding a 255nm and 310nm option in both a mule and spot format with the appropriate glass filters would be fantastic.
Sorry to this terrible photoshop work I donāt think I can do better at 11 PM
Few word for the moment, I donāt have many time
Today In morning I see Niwalker message on Skype who informe me new head release.
Last word with Niwalker about potentialy new head was a single OSRAM white LED
And today, this:
Niwalker, 11:16
Hello *, 365nm UV head and SFT40 thrower head of ES3 have been released:)
They also release head x3 Luminus SST20 2700K 95 CRI at 17$
SFT 40 head is 21$ ācool whiteā
UV head x3 18$
My dream in better iāve also think when I possess only ES2 a dream of bigger head whith smooth reflector for pur trhow and i was thinking, itās to ācomplicateā to make and create imbalance , reason they probably never release.
Today just wow originaly no picture just this message I speak about this release with Niwalker they give me 2 picture
After claim my love and discreetly proposing a marriage O_O I speak about my original dream for ES3 Two single LED head with 1 x3 XPL head and they send me this 3 picture
My futur ES3 2x 1 SFT 40 cool white and 1x3 XPL-HD cool white
OK not CREE XPL-HI on optic same to my ES2 but itās better
SFT 40 on smooth reflector, just WOW i canāt believe it.
Heās done my day
Just wow again at the final world of my impression I canāt hope they release a pur thrower in smooth reflector, they can only do the only form factor x3 LED configuration same my previous pic with ES2 head with single LED
So nice they have do this SFT 40 head
If you have āclassicā head with blue bezel their is removable and you can interchange with the steel bezel of UV head
For SFT40 head they have made new head design and only this bezel available
Iāve bought 3 SFT 40 Head and 1 x 3 Luminus SST 20 2700k 95 CRI head.
Hope they come soon and can do nightshot.
03/30 edit:
They have send me a picture of 3 SFT 40 head and a quick video post later when Iāve time
Possibly over exposur picture but we can see what we can expect for a light with 3 complet smooth reflector
Near same beam expected by 1 LED in smooth reflector but over power, more massive and brighter hotspot and most brighter spill compare to petaling who was creat by 3/4 full reflector for BLF Q8 for example
For me itās very nice, remains me my Nitecore quadray TM28/26GT beam profile and is interresting, the range of 3/4 reflector but a smaller and much powerfull spill, more usable a low output.
And we keep the possibility to mix other head
Tell me some specs too:
āThe diameter of SFT head is 24mm. The output of single head is about 2100lumens.
The range of three heads is about 650metersā
Add video:
0.27 For the quick beamshot share by Niwalker and the pretty drawing of a big child after, you can laugh
Thank you for your message:)
Sometime I think I need shut up and make more short message
Some many thing to tell about this light .
Happy you like
if I could make you want :laughing:
I want be paid with more new head!
so !
I request single LED in optic Iāve SFT in smooth reflector :partying_face:
I request warm tint for cree XPL-head!
I donāt know if SFT are available in neutral or white warm, but I request too !
Or an ES6, 6 head on pop can 3 x 21000 cell
Iāve choice:
Complain against Astrolux who creat MF01S white only cool white option and the best of the best a design which I have tried to find a meaning while finally only use for put glow tube insideā¦ At depends on thermal efficiency
Complain against Acebeam who create a wonderfull X50 with GT FC-40 ermitter and the 3 P42A cell battery pack most expensive ever at 150$.
And so many more.
Or make thread for light who have logic and innovation.
I prefer the second
Iām really like this light, Iām in a real hurry to receiv the new SFT head and the SST 20 2700K 95 CRI for try various head configuration.
I donāt do that with my actual head, no reason to mix the Samsung head 3 x 3 Samsung head is so great
But with SFT head
1 x3 XPL-HD head cool white
1 x 1 SFT head
1 x 3 SST 20 2700k for āwarmā the beam
2 week the 3 x 1 SFT head made me sweet dreams too :laughing:
2 x 1 SFT head and 1 x 3 XPL head.
Itās going to be hard to share that by photo or video.
The ES2 was very good light, ability to mix 3 led in optic with single led in optic or 2 LED 1 in each optic.
Reason iāve insta buy the ES3
ES3 have progress in all skill (host, power output,built qualityā¦) and we have now one more head to mix.
It is possible that I exaggerate but I have for several months a great pleasure to use this lamp and the new head make me more joyfull
this picture doesnāt make you dream?
Me yes, look forward take mine.
Hope they come soon.
I was also satisfied by my contact with Niwalker on Skype.
Quick response, good feeling, compare to the ābadā website they have :person_facepalming: essentially lack of information in all areas.
I wonāt stalk them, but itās hard, they have information (lumens output, rangeā¦) and donāt share it.
Not the driver! itās a fatality
Honesty I donāt know what they are inside, just the light give a power output in relation with cell charge level, I can use it with cell around 3.3V and keep reasonable output .
Got it today, more picture/video comming soon
05/04 quick beamshot release
Lot of word about this new head, itās a real pleasure, 2 SFT head and 1 xpl head is
Great improve, I donāt take time for try 1 SFT head with neutral/warm white other head for the moment.
Iāve planned other beamshot, I need full night to realize it
Itās a TM28 with XHP 35.2 HI on video, Nitecore send me this after my original TM28 XHP 35 HI have one LED dead, and iāve discover that, now itās only 35.2 for ānewā TM28 produce after 2021
Iām not fan of that. Little more floody, greenhish tint and many more artifact on beam ā¦
If someone have information about Niwalker brand. They made some interesting dual head flashlights but seems that the company is gone like another chinese flashlight vendors?
Even their communication is non-existent, the only lights sent for review are sent by Banggood or other shops, never by Niwalker itself.
I think they are essentially focused on their domestic market.
Now, ES3 remains a nice lamp, absolutely not a wow light but if you like walking with it, it performs very well over time.
Iāve had it for 2 years and I still enjoy using it on my long outings.
I made other comparison video with it.
As I said in the description, for some heads I only have one copy, so on camera it gives a very low output compare to other light, after that D4SV2/MF01 Mini have better output but for long walk, I never use it.
But I want to keep the power and colour rendering in my videos as realistic as possible, so all the lamps are shown without any arrangement to favour one or the other.
Even if I love my ES3
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all of spec are visibly based on XPL-HD x3 head only
but associate to XPL HD 3 LED head is not bad, bad because the osram have same throw seem the XPL HI 3 LED of ES2 no purpose for this ES3 (So the beam is the best for 3 LED configuration, for me, but then the tint and the general rendering of OSRAM PUSRA1.PM are to vomit)
