New Roche F6 EDC XM-L2 Single 18650. $20.99 shipped.

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Designed a board. 8*AMC7135 (split into 7+1 for lower lows), red & blue status LEDs.

I couldn't find the original tact switches, so I used different ones (those from the Small Sun ZY-T29). Correctly placing the switch might be essential; maybe adding a dab of glue to the button (to gain some length) can help, don't know yet. The driver might also fit into the ZY-T29.

I'll upload it to the fab later. And then wait...

Edit: uploaded. PCBs are being manufactured today (Jan. 29th).

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I will have one mate xx

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My charger head arrived today as well, and works, too :bigsmile: No problems with banggood at all, they re-sent the charger head without hassle.

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My charger head arrived so i’m good with Banggood.

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My charger head also recently showed up. Smile

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I got the replacement Roche F6 from banggood today, not good news Sad

Anyone know how to tighten or at least remove the switch so I can swap it with my other one? How about swapping the driver, anyone opened it up yet?

-Jamie M.

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My Charger head still have not arrived.
(Its been OVER 2 weeks now and still have not recieved it.)
Can anyone from BANGGOOD explain this ? ..or should i write them off as a bad retailer and Black-list them for my future purchases ?

That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight

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viw9419 wrote:
My reflector rattles slightly, which I find quite annoying.
I have loosened the stainless bezel and placed a small spacer under the aluminium reflector to take out the slack.
It works lovely now.

Do you think it’s the reflector rattling in my video (check two posts up)? It sure feels like it’s the switch but damn right, could be the reflector!! Weird that only ONE of mine does that!

I’ll try harder to get the bezel off.

-Jamie M.

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DrJones wrote:

Designed a board. 8*AMC7135 (split into 7+1 for lower lows), red & blue status LEDs.

I couldn’t find the original tact switches, so I used different ones (those from the Small Sun ZY-T29). Correctly placing the switch might be essential; maybe adding a dab of glue to the button (to gain some length) can help, don’t know yet. The driver might also fit into the ZY-T29.

I’ll upload it to the fab later. And then wait…

Edit: uploaded. PCBs are being manufactured today (Jan. 29th).


Whoa damn! Put me down for one. I’ll get you to ship it to someone willing to swap it into my (defective) Roche F6!!! Just let me know when they are ready.

And if anyone reading this (in the USA or Canada) is willing to swap the driver on the F6 for me let me know Big Smile

-Jamie M.

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-Jamie M. – Dr Jones already tried to fit another driver and found it was too tight, not enough room. That is the reason he’s designing another driver.

EDit – ..and we have soldering irons here in the UK!

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I also had a rattling flashlight (additionally to the missing charger head). The rattling doesn’t stem from the switch, but rather from the glass (or maybe it’s plexi-glass) not thightly enough pressing onto the reflector (as toysareforboys suggested already). You can unscrew the silver part on top, it’s not glued and has a thread to re-screw it again. I used a bench-vise to clamp only the silver part and unscrew it that way. Once the top comes off, you’ll get the glass, an o-Ring and the reflector. I put the extra O-ring that comes with it on top of the reflector (because at least my replacement O-Ring is thicker than the one originally used, the replacement one is supposed to be used for the body-thread) and reassembled the flashlight, and now the rattling is gone. Haven’t documented the process, but it’s been my first time I had to tamper with a flashlight, so it’s very straightforward.

Also, at least judging from the video, you need to press the button for a second or two till the light starts up, those rapid presses you did won’t do anything even for working flahlights.

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XinTD wrote:
Also, at least judging from the video, you need to press the button for a second or two till the light starts up, those rapid presses you did won’t do anything even for working flahlights.

When I shot the new video I couldn’t remember at the time what was wrong with the original one they sent me. The first one they sent me only works in momentary mode and you’re correct in that you didn’t see it come on in the video because I clicked it too fast Big Smile

-Jamie M.

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I got one of these Roche F6 but just quick question. When they say it is a XM-L2…what is the bin? T6? or U2?
Still a newbie.

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I just bought Roche F6 from Banggood and get it from post office.

In their site, they put :

Package included:
1 x Roche F6 CREE XM-L2 LED Flashlight
1 x attack head

Is it anybody received the attack head ? And also I don’t received the strap for this Roche.

Thanks.

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Toys for boys ..Use a set of pliers on the ss bezel  to get it loose .ifyou nick the ss just hit it with sand paper  and then finer and finer and then buff it back to a shine . I broke out the pliers quickly and could have probably gotten mine with lesser means . The usual jar openers / non slip rug rubber wasn't working so I brought out the bigger gun My guess is a couple tuff rubber bands and channel locks . They have little rubber covers for them too if the rubber bands fail you.

There is no attack head they are trying to say you can order it with the charging head  or without .. your option ...Why they add the pictures of stuff that doesn't come with this light is beyond me .

Wake up here banggood you are simply confusing people .

It's a nice light albeit somewhat finicky .

 

It comes with a clip and thats all . no extra tailpeieces or strap etc . just the light

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XML83 wrote:
I just bought Roche F6 from Banggood and get it from post office.

In their site, they put :

Package included:
1 x Roche F6 CREE XM-L2 LED Flashlight
1 x attack head

Is it anybody received the attack head ? And also I don’t received the strap for this Roche.

Thanks.

Welcome to the growing group of us who recieved the light with missing parts.

That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight

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So what did you get with your F6?

charging head (if ordered)

clip

strap

attack head/tailpiece (as described in text on Banggood) or maybe glass breaking head/tailpiece (as shown in pics on Banggood)

xtra o-ring

And thx for a great forum just joined from Sweden!

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Boaz wrote:
Toys for boys ..Use a set of pliers on the ss bezel

Thanks for giving me the confidence to go at it Smile I used channel lock pliers with a thick rubber band and was finally able to get the bezel off! Didn’t leave any marks at all.

I moved the o-ring that was already inside the light from under the glass to on top of the glass and success, no more rattle!

Thanks again Smile

-Jamie M.

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nisse wrote:
So what did you get with your F6?

charging head (if ordered)

clip

strap

attack head/tailpiece (as described in text on Banggood) or maybe glass breaking head/tailpiece (as shown in pics on Banggood)

xtra o-ring

And thx for a great forum just joined from Sweden!

The only thing I got from this F6 order without Charging Head Price is Only Flashlight…

They didn’t said that + Charging Head is also + Attack head.

They written it in their site that the package is + Attack Head…

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XML83 wrote:
nisse wrote:
So what did you get with your F6?

charging head (if ordered)

clip

strap

attack head/tailpiece (as described in text on Banggood) or maybe glass breaking head/tailpiece (as shown in pics on Banggood)

xtra o-ring

And thx for a great forum just joined from Sweden!

The only thing I got from this F6 order without Charging Head Price is Only Flashlight…

They didn’t said that + Charging Head is also + Attack head.

They written it in their site that the package is + Attack Head…

I just realized i never recieved any “attack head” either, if there is somthing that supposed to screw into the threaded base there was nothing in my package… was i missing another part including the missing charger head ?

That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight

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Update for my F6 driver:

Boards arrived, I populated one (should have made a photo; will do when I flash a new firmware next time) and wrote a firmware for it, based on mokkadrv, but highly configurable, and making use of 2 status LEDs:

By default it has 3 modes, L,M,H (number of modes and brightness levels can be reconfigured). 

When off: A short click switches to the last mode (high), a long press starts in the first mode (low), keep holding the button to get to the higher modes. A double-click starts strobe. So no memory - but that can be changed, see below. 

When on, a short click switches off, a press&hold cycles through the modes in a L-M-H-M-L-M... fashion. 

A very long press/hold activates the battery indicator; the red status LED blinks the number of full volts, the blue one the tenths of a volt, e.g. 3*red, 8*blue means 3.8V.

A 4*click (4 quick taps) let you change the current modes' brightness by then ramping up&down via press&hold, a short click sets that new level - temporarily, i.e. it does not survive a power loss. So you can adapt the levels to your current situation without changing your standard config; but it can be made permanent, see below.

A 6*click leads to lockout mode, the light can be reactivated by a 3*click.

An 8*click brings you to the configuration menu, where you can
 - add or delete a mode
 - configure whether a short click when off starts the light in the first mode (low), last mode (high; default) or memory.
 - configure whether a long click when off starts in the first mode (low; default), last mode (high), memory or ramping.
 - permanently save your current configuration, reload it, or restore the factory defaults. 

18kHz PWM, step-down on low battery (3.0V), shutdown at 2.8V.

I have plans for a couple more features, and some of them before I'll release these (e.g. currently double-click and triple-click lead to strobe and can't be changed).

I also ordered some components (resistors, status LEDs etc) so I can send kits (board and components) later.

 

 

 

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Although I know nothing about the driver part of these lights I am very interested in a dr jones driver upgrade for this already very nice light. Smile
Looking forward to the finished product!

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this is a long thread…could someone give me an executive lazy man’s summary?

i got….interesting product, good price, problems with product delivered, and now awesome drjones driver (almost) available

so, if i order one, what issues might it show up with? and is there a review posted here yet?

thanks!

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DrJones wrote:

Update for my F6 driver:

Boards arrived, I populated one (should have made a photo; will do when I flash a new firmware next time) and wrote a firmware for it, based on mokkadrv, but highly configurable, and making use of 2 status LEDs:

By default it has 3 modes, L,M,H (number of modes and brightness levels can be reconfigured). 

When off: A short click switches to the last mode (high), a long press starts in the first mode (low), keep holding the button to get to the higher modes. A double-click starts strobe. So no memory – but that can be changed, see below. 

When on, a short click switches off, a press&hold cycles through the modes in a L-M-H-M-L-M… fashion. 

A very long press/hold activates the battery indicator; the red status LED blinks the number of full volts, the blue one the tenths of a volt, e.g. 3*red, 8*blue means 3.8V.

A 4*click (4 quick taps) let you change the current modes’ brightness by then ramping up&down via press&hold, a short click sets that new level – temporarily, i.e. it does not survive a power loss. So you can adapt the levels to your current situation without changing your standard config; but it can be made permanent, see below.

A 6*click leads to lockout mode, the light can be reactivated by a 3*click.

An 8*click brings you to the configuration menu, where you can
 - add or delete a mode
 - configure whether a short click when off starts the light in the first mode (low), last mode (high; default) or memory.
 - configure whether a long click when off starts in the first mode (low; default), last mode (high), memory or ramping.
 - permanently save your current configuration, reload it, or restore the factory defaults. 

18kHz PWM, step-down on low battery (3.0V), shutdown at 2.8V.

I have plans for a couple more features, and some of them before I’ll release these (e.g. currently double-click and triple-click lead to strobe and can’t be changed).

I also ordered some components (resistors, status LEDs etc) so I can send kits (board and components) later.

 

 

 

Wow! I WANT ONE!!!! Love

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Smile I want the driver also DrJones Big Smile I dont have this flashlight but that is not important Smile btw, how big this driver is? P.S. I would like DIY version Silly

 

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DrJones wrote:
By default it has 3 modes, L,M,H (number of modes and brightness levels can be reconfigured). 

When off: A short click switches to the last mode (high), a long press starts in the first mode (low), keep holding the button to get to the higher modes. A double-click starts strobe. So no memory


How much to swap if I send you my flashlight?

And no excuses, shutup and take my money!

-Jamie M.

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dthrckt wrote:
this is a long thread…could someone give me an executive lazy man’s summary?


Torch. Too lazy?

A torch? Better?

Cheap torch?

Cheap torch, apparent quality for dollars.

Cheap torch, slow delivery. Must be from the car maker, Bitsamissing.

Fine, this is all you get…

Where is it? Im waiting? Its on the way, website says in stock? Has said that for days, not in stock. These move quickly. Arrrrghhhhh! Want my money back. Got my money back. Still waiting, its worth it. Banggood is honest about lumens, 500. Needs better driver (this bit gets good later, stay tuned). Cant work out he mode change side switch, takes getting used to. Complicated process to change modes described. They ‘poked’, Pok (no offence dude).
2013-11-15 22:10:43 Payment Confirmed
2013-11-15 22:14:03 Ready To Process
2013-12-01 20:11:18 Processing
2013-12-02 21:04:18 Back Order. Well that sucks. Ditto. Almost ditto. ECHO ECho echo. Obviosuly not 1st come 1st serve. Looking forward to this light. Wheres my tracking number? GOT ONE!!!! AWW too complicated UI. YAY lesson on UI. Not complicated, defective. Skip ahead, defective will be replaced. Back in order of posts, GOT TWO!!!, likes light for money. Remember Pok
Mine Shipped.
2013-11-15 22:10:43 Payment Confirmed
2013-11-15 22:14:03 Ready To Process
2013-12-02 21:04:18 Back Order
2013-12-19 18:51:12 Processing
2013-12-20 01:33:49 Shipped
RB?????????CN
Can only install unprotected cells, too short. Happy new year!! Paypal dispute, refund. Local BLF Mafia threatened Hello Kitty Lunchpails with the Yangtze, it was tragic. YAYYY! Got one, booo, no charger head (throws plastic keys from pram). p_k says flicker in middle mode (no, not Pok, p_k, keep up), mine too at start, self fixing, no response from p_k. Extra no charger heads. You too!, Yeah me too!. Aww. Some lies about an F6 transformer from FastTech trying to Schwarzenegger its way into a members home (Im me. No youre me, Im you!!). QUOTE!, it does take protected cells, Panasonic 18650B’s. Skip forward, seiko protection works, so not Panasonics of all persuasions. it seems. Charger head, what charger head. Rep apologises. p_k has a small firelike event. Any room for an 8×7135 driver (remember I said driver will come back later, stay tuned? You do? Stay tuned still). Dr Jones pops in, stays stealthy quiet (thats a teaser) except to say, still waiting. DrJones GOT ONE!!! likes it essentially except the UI (not the UI again), but no room for driver change, I assume this starts the thinking process (you will need to wait for the smoke to clear, just like everyone else did). Dr Jones dares himself (CHALLENGE accepted). Confucius say light in pocket, easy to shine light on rocket. Duel proposed over protected cells, Panasonic from Wallbuys also fit. Rules and decorum prevented it, much bloodshed prevented (we are not animals). Thread starter, the OP, the Kahuna of this thread of which you are reading, still hasnt got one. LOL Lol. Missing charger head club started. Charger head resend arrives, free torch YAY!!, no charger head (snicker snicker). Some people holding breath still. Dr Jones tried backdoor, got head (charger head, shakes head, no, my head. You people are filthy). EBAY to the rescue, how odd. Driver chit chat, egging on Dr Jones. Like he needed it, I saw the smoke. Boaz was complaining about Dr Jones and size, not sure whats going on there but it all ended well with a comment re banggood. Thickness he shouts. Again, no idea, dont want to. Pok got his charger head (yes, Pok, keep up). Dr Jones pretty drawing. Site was flooded with charger heads, it was awful I tells ya, oh the hugemanatee. Someone asked about changingg the driver, anyone have any ideas, he didnt keep up. See I told ya, its best to keep up. YAY!!, He caught up. Rattly reflector, unscrew bezel, fit spare oring, voila. What I never mentioned this earlier. True. I have now, what do you want from me? Here, read the thread about how to get the bezel off. LOL< no attack heads. No one thought about these babies. Dr Jones reveals the beast (the driver board, you people really need help). And then someone asked for a summary.

*me inhales.

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lmao, ok thanks

and i’ll add, coupon expired

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Alright, Today I finally received my charge head.
But it does not want to charge my samsung galaxy S4.
I tried an USB headlight and it does power on so the charge head is working, it just doesn’t want to charge my phone.
Will try it with a different phone later, but all this trouble, all this time, and it just doesn’t work for me Tired

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lopedevega wrote:
Finally received the light , originally ordered Nov. 27th,2013 . Ordered with a charger head , but as many others – charger head is missing .What is worse – the light does not work . Tried it with different Panasonics,Samsungs , LG – no go.At the beginning , maybe 7-8 times the light came “On “, very low – similar to Zebralight 0.2 lm . Stayed “On” for a few seconds , and then turned off by itself. Now does not even turn “On” any more.Otherwise – it is a beautiful light , both protected and unprotected seem to fit fine. Any advice ?

After a few e-mails to CS ,“Flashlight Expert – Alysonhe” and Neal – it was agreed that my flashlight does not work and a replacement order for a new flashlight and the missing charger head was placed .That was on Feb,2nd,2014 . Suddenly – it all started all over again – “Processing” then in a couple of days – “Back ordered” .It has been like that for 2 weeks.Contacted Neal to work something out for a different flashlight – not very good offer on my first pick,still waiting to hear from him for the other couple of models.Since contacting Neal 2 days ago – status of order changed last night to “Processing” again. It looks like BG has problem supplying this light and it shouldn’t have been offered for sale, in first place . Sending e-mail to CS to ask for refund .

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