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Cree releasing 100W LED light bulb equivalent

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wonder what kind of battery i will need to have one in a flashlight, LMAO… carry a car battery in a backpack, light on a hose to the battery, kinda look like the guys in “ghostusters”?? LMAO

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Hmmm.. the Emitter part inside could make a good flooder with a good lower voltage driver. Silly

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It uses 18W, but you can also buy 40W, 60W and 75W equivalents which may need less batteries, one could buy the 40W and under drive it for camping, i believe it uses about 6W of electricity

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It uses 18W, but you can also buy 40W, 60W and 75W equivalents which may need less batteries, one could buy the 40W and under drive it for camping, i believe it uses about 6W of electricity

the volts + watts + amps factor is probally goign to increase to drive the bulb’s emitter stup with a lower voltage driver using Lithium cells. Im curious though now. Smile i might have to pick up the 60 watt version to disect it, and see if it can be modded to run in my Coleman 8-D LED lantern.

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It uses 18W, but you can also buy 40W, 60W and 75W equivalents which may need less batteries, one could buy the 40W and under drive it for camping, i believe it uses about 6W of electricity

the volts + watts + amps factor is probally goign to increase to drive the bulb’s emitter stup with a lower voltage driver using Lithium cells. Im curious though now. Smile i might have to pick up the 60 watt version to disect it, and see if it can be modded to run in my Coleman 8-D LED lantern.


there is a thread on it with pics, it uses xb-d chips or something similar
i assume if you rewired it and ripped out the ac-dc circuitry you could run it with a lithium cell or two, it could make a good flood light especially in a power outage

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It uses 18W, but you can also buy 40W, 60W and 75W equivalents which may need less batteries, one could buy the 40W and under drive it for camping, i believe it uses about 6W of electricity

the volts + watts + amps factor is probally goign to increase to drive the bulb’s emitter stup with a lower voltage driver using Lithium cells. Im curious though now. Smile i might have to pick up the 60 watt version to disect it, and see if it can be modded to run in my Coleman 8-D LED lantern.


there is a thread on it with pics, it uses xb-d chips or something similar
i assume if you rewired it and ripped out the ac-dc circuitry you could run it with a lithium cell or two, it could make a good flood light especially in a power outage

I will have to do that then for the Flashaholic Camp Meet weekend. Silly

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All the LEDs are wired in series… too much rewiring to be practical for battery mods.

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Good.  The other bulbs weren't nearly bright enough for me.  The 60W equivalent bulbs I have are more like mood lighting, but not that useful for performing tasks.  Ideally I'd like a 150W or 250W equivalent, but at least this gets me a step closer.

The low mode should be lower.

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Good.  The other bulbs weren’t nearly bright enough for me.  The 60W equivalent bulbs I have are more like mood lighting, but not that useful for performing tasks.  Ideally I’d like a 150W or 250W equivalent, but at least this gets me a step closer.


me too, i would like 200W equivalent i would replace all my bulbs in the house with it (if i could afford them)

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These are already on sale at Home Depot. Just search on ‘Cree’. You can find them for under $19 a copy when you buy a 5-pack.

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I just pulled the trigger on a 5 pack of them from Home Depot. I need more light in my work shop.

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It’s about darn time they came out with an LED equivalent of a 100 watt incan. NONE of the others were bright enough for me. As soon as I see one, I’m snatching one up to try and if it works properly, I will get a bunch of them. I wonder if they will have temperature choices?

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It’s about darn time they came out with an LED equivalent of a 100 watt incan. NONE of the others were bright enough for me. As soon as I see one, I’m snatching one up to try and if it works properly, I will get a bunch of them. I wonder if they will have temperature choices?

they have 2700k and 5000k

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Good to know. I will get one of each.

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This innovative product gives consumers more reasons to replace their energy-wasting incandescent bulbs by LED Bulb.

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Doesnt a 100 watt CFL at 26 watts for $2 make more sense????? I CANNOT justify $100 for 5 lightbulbs!!!! I will consider them when the price comes down to something a bit more reasonable…

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Doesnt a 100 watt CFL at 26 watts for $2 make more sense????? I CANNOT justify $100 for 5 lightbulbs!!!! I will consider them when the price comes down to something a bit more reasonable…

In many situations yes, but keep in mind you will buy many CFLs over the lifetime of this one LED.
If your using it for several hours a day of use the lifetime cost would be similar for each (say 5-8 CFLs and a bit more electricity vs 1 LED).
If your using it in a bathroom or hallway or other place where its only used a few minutes at a time then the economics favour LED (10-15 CFLs and a bit more electricity vs 1 LED) because CFLs only last their rated life if used for over an hour each time you start them.

Two things to note, most $2 CFLs are low quality and the LED price will continue to drop in the coming years.

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I ordered 10 PAR 16 for my recessed lighting with natural white 2 months ago from Aliexpress supplier for $3.25 each. My wife didn’t like it because it was too blue. So I place another order for 10 more in warm white 2 weeks ago from the same supplier. They told me because of the increase in material, the bulbs will cost $4.25 each.

It seems the prices are increasing and not decreasing for now.

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I ordered 10 PAR 16 for my recessed lighting with natural white 2 months ago from Aliexpress supplier for $3.25 each. My wife didn’t like it because it was too blue. So I place another order for 10 more in warm white 2 weeks ago from the same supplier. They told me because of the increase in material, the bulbs will cost $4.25 each.

It seems the prices are increasing and not decreasing for now.


thats a different market, your buying unsafe chinese yesteryear stuff that they charge what that batch cost from whatever supplier they are using this week plus who knows how many middlemen

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Really nice indeed.
Too bad it will get around a decade to be available here locally.

Probably will take plenty of time to get it even with E27 & 240V compatibility through web shops Sad

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The 60’s are going cheap in Connecticut.

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The 60’s are going cheap in Connecticut.
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that is very subsidized, if 3.97 is home depot’s price and 14.98 is the competitor’s price then who is this competitor, these bulbs are exclusive to home depot

At that you could buy 3, ship them to me and it would cost less then me buying them here (if i could afford it)

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that is very subsidized, if 3.97 is home depot’s price and 14.98 is the competitor’s price then who is this competitor, these bulbs are exclusive to home depot

At that you could buy 3, ship them to me and it would cost less then me buying them here (if i could afford it)

The fact that your statement above is true shows how ineffective these programs can be. With the government getting involved, irrational and uneconomical behavior can result. If I were to do that for you or anybody else (and I would, just PM me), in the overall scheme of things, the total cost of the bulbs is as high as anywhere else plus the added expense of the postage and the effort to pack and ship them. Add to that is the cost of the bureaucracy of the government and an item that is supposed to conserve ends up wasteful.
It’s all the high taxes in CT that pays for it. So unless I load up on these bulbs, I’ll becheated. Big Smile (I bought 4)
BTW, the competitors color is blue, that would mean Lowes. So there are 2 reasons for the low price. Government subsidy and competition. I am for the latter, not the former
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that is very subsidized, if 3.97 is home depot’s price and 14.98 is the competitor’s price then who is this competitor, these bulbs are exclusive to home depot

At that you could buy 3, ship them to me and it would cost less then me buying them here (if i could afford it)

The fact that your statement above is true shows how ineffective these programs can be. With the government getting involved, irrational and uneconomical behavior can result. If I were to do that for you or anybody else (and I would, just PM me), in the overall scheme of things, the total cost of the bulbs is as high as anywhere else plus the added expense of the postage and the effort to pack and ship them. Add to that is the cost of the bureaucracy of the government and an item that is supposed to conserve ends up wasteful.
It’s all the high taxes in CT that pays for it. So unless I load up on these bulbs, I’ll becheated. Big Smile (I bought 4)
BTW, the competitors color is blue, that would mean Lowes. So there are 2 reasons for the low price. Government subsidy and competition. I am for the latter, not the former
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You are incorrect, this does not prove this program is ineffective, it proves they are subsidized and should sell more because of the low price leading to more energy saved. Around here energy programs are calculated by the TRC (total resource cost) and the rebates are designed to be less in cost then the energy saved, so its cheaper to give the rebate then to generate the energy the incandescent would have used over its lifetime.
Also they are home depot exclusive, they are comparing to another brand Lowes sells but these bulbs are only sold by Cree to Home Depot, and these were designed to be cheaper then the competition even without subsidies (i suspect cree got into this because there was no real competition so LED profits were sky high along with the prices)

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Any idea of CRI in the 5000K 100W bulb?

Update: I got an email back from Cree saying it’s 82 CRI.

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Sweet, I wonder if my local stores have any bulbs that cheap. I still have a few fixtures left to convert.

I don’t need the 100W ones though… even the 60W ones hurt my eyes unless I dim them down quite a bit.

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The five that I ordered from Home depot arrived yesterday. Gives me about 200 lux in my workshop. Lots better than the 60 W eq that I had in before.

I have many of the Cree bulbs in the house, mostly the 40 W eq in ceiling fans throughout the house. They are all the 2700 K soft white versions.

I also have three of the 100 W eq ones on a dimmer, and they will dim much lower than the competition (read Lowes Utilitech).

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I also have three of the 100 W eq ones on a dimmer, and they will dim much lower than the competition (read Lowes Utilitech).

What dimmer are you using?

The low mode should be lower.

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Looks like Cree made some new high-CRI versions of their bulbs. 93 CRI, but I think they only come in 2700K and they’re nowhere near as efficient as the original Cree bulbs. The original 2700K bulbs were 84 lm/W, and the high-CRI ones are only 59 lm/W.

I think I’m just going to rig up some Nichia 219s somehow, connected to a switched wall outlet. Probably just a copper star bonded to an old aluminum CPU heat sink, maybe with a removable cover to shield it from dust. It won’t be more efficient than Cree bulbs, but at least it’ll be a good color temperature and high CRI.

Or maybe MT-G2s would be better. I wonder how hard it’d be to make my own “puck” lights with a single MT-G2 on each. Or perhaps a XP-G2 triple on each, with three vastly different tints in the triple. And probably a NLITE driver, no mode memory, with a level selected by flipping the wall switch on/off for low/med/high. That sounds nice.

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Sweet, I wonder if my local stores have any bulbs that cheap. I still have a few fixtures left to convert.

I don’t need the 100W ones though… even the 60W ones hurt my eyes unless I dim them down quite a bit.

The 60W equivalent Cree should have been reduced from $12.97 to $6.97 at your local store. The 40W should have been reduced from $9.97 to $6.97. Here are the links

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-60W-Equivalent-Soft-White-2700K-A19-Dimm...LED-Light-Bulb-BA19-08027OMF-12DE26-2U100/204592770?keyword=1000003071

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-40W-Equivalent-Soft-White-2700K-A19-Dimm...LED-Light-Bulb-BA19-04527OMF-12DE26-2U100/204476612?keyword=1000003073

My local store has in stock 111 of the newest 100W equivalent (the subject of this thread) at $19.97 each. Here is the link to that bulb.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-100W-Equivalent-Soft-White-2700K-A21-Dim...LED-Light-Bulb-BA21-16027OMF-12DE26-1U100/205054835?keyword=1000042553

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