Banggood selling fake Nitecore charger? confirmed by Nitecore's website, if it's working.

For all those who say the validation system is crap, It may well be, it looks like it. But what worries me more is than no has mentioned it, meaning, I guess, that no one has checked. Which also renders the system pretty useless.

@banggood, may I suggest you contact Nitecore immediately for a response or some kind of explanation.

Marc.

@Marcl - I have an email to Sysmax about this so that they can respond directly. I do have to agree with others here that the phrasing of your title is just wrong without having an actual conversation with Sysmax. You should change it until you get actual confirmation from Sysmax - it is afterall only proper etiquette.

FYI - Their validation system does NOT work with any of their D-series and only some of the I-series 2014's. As I have stated before, I have several. To me it is pointless if the charger is working properly. If you think your charger is not working properly then that too requires an email to Sysmax.

@ I will change the title. But you have to understand when a company like Nitecore set up a system like that, I use the system to check my product, to be told the code is invalid, at the first time of entering. To that is conformation from Nitecore afterall it’s their website. I felt I was right to post here in such a way.

Marc.

This is how XTARs works. If the fake has a legit number, and is verified prior to the genuine item, the fake will appear to the buyer as legit, and the genuine item will appear as invalid. I would assume the key is that the numbers are not consecutive, and therefore it would be less likely a number used by fakes would be unused, or in the XTAR/NITECORE system as a released number.

Its unlikely they use consecutive numbers, or that every possible number is in their system. A block of numbers, however selected, would be released with stock and the stickers applied to them. No other unused numbers would exist in the system. I could be wrong though.

Banggood may or may not be selling fakes. It could be someone has predicted some numbers and Banggood just happens to be selling the legit unit. Again, I could be wrong though.

without being able to identify circuit components and engineering like layout etc, it might be near impossible to tell them apart with some fakes. Others will stand out… Depends how committed people are. Worth noting there are definite fakes that are almost as good as the originals round here but a lot cheaper, generally they are referred to as clones.

So the only thing we can deduce is that whilst the chargers maybe fake, the numbers are genuine. :bigsmile:

LOL pretty much sums it up.

I agree!

How many digits is a nitecore validation number? Numeric only (only numbers, no letters)?

16 I think, no letters.

Marc.

@bugsy36 - Any response from Sysmax yet?

I did not request that they respond directly to me - no need. I asked that they respond to this thread directly to clear the air.

As for the claims....let me say this:

I have several of the Nitecore chargers, a few D2's and 4's. NONE are fakes and ALL work properly. If Banggood says they are buying directly from Nitecore then "I" have zero reason not to believe them. They are one of Nitecore's biggest distributors and it would be stupid to sell anything counterfeit that is labeled Nitecore. Just because Sysmax has a flawed system does not mean these goods are counterfeit.

How do I know?....Because it is crapshoot and has yet to work with any of the D-series for me and I KNOW that they are not counterfeits.

I just love the way that many like to jump the gun and believe the worst.

@bugsy36 - I Think you are right. Thanks for your time :beer:

and thanks to Banggood for posting in this thread

and also thanks to original poster for making us know there is a problem with the validation system

My D4 that i got from Banggood is genuine even on NITECORE validation site.

@bugsy. I appreciate you contacting sysmax and for what it worth I think the validation system doesn’t work properly I think that has been proven to be the case for a lot of people. However I think it is a little unfair to say I jumped the gun, after all I followed the process and was told the code with my charger was invalid, it worked for Vladraq above, he was told his was authentic, I wasn’t.

As for thinking the worst, this is China we are talking about, it happens a lot.

Marc

A D4 from BG with my name on it is somewhere between China and Sweden right now. I will validate and post the results in this thread when it has arrived.

I don’t know if Banggood has their own warehouse.

I don’t know if Banggood buys directly from manufacturers rather than through wholesalers.

The actual origin of the item matters — as does “provenance” or “chain of custody” — meaning knowing whose hands have been on an item all the way from the original parts through assembly and sale to the purchaser.

Because, at every step, someone’s tempted to substitute cheap crap for good product and rake off some profit.

Many online sellers — not just Chinese sellers — are actually “drop shippers” who take orders, show you a tempting catalog, but don’t actually have the products. They match up the orders they can get with whoever’s selling the product and have it shipped without ever touching it.

Often they have no clue what they’re selling, as you can tell from the “support” email we get.

Amazon does something similar: The dark corner of Amazon: faulty products and dangerous knockoffs - The Daily Dot

That’s my last point really, if amazon can do it then why would I be surprised if Banggood do it.

Personally like I have said earlier in the thread it might be the charger is not fake but that Nitecore know nothing of it or it’s validation code. Simply because it was sold through a back door somewhere.

What I am a little surprised at it that BG have not seemed in anyway put out by it all. Just the usual ‘we only sell genuine Nitecore’. Maybe they should have got in touch with sysmax instead of bugsy.

Marc.

I will have to check mine later tonight when I get home. I also bought one from “Sold by Join You and Fulfilled by Amazon”. I hope mine is real, but I have noticed it gets quite warm when charging and has that ‘hot electronic parts smell’

As others have pointed out the real question is if Nitcore’s validation system works or not (and apparently not). It’s a valid question to ask if a vendor is selling genuine items or not but Banggood isn’t responsible for monitoring or revising Nitecore’s system. If BG has confirmed that they are selling genuine items then what Nitecore does in terms of validation is out of BG’s hands.

Just my opinion of course