New CREE XP-G2 emitter officially announced. 20% better efficiency, same XP size footprint.

CREE website: http://www.cree.com/led-components-and-modules/products/xlamp/discrete-directional/xlamp-xpg2

An article on it with picture: http://ledsmagazine.com/news/9/7/5

And some discussion at the other place: New 2nd Generation Cree XP-G2 LED! | Candle Power Flashlight Forum!

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Waiting for this in either a Zebralight SC80 in neutral or an EagleTac D25A in neutral.

we can place some bets which established brand will be the first to implement this in one of their flashlights. XT-E didnt see a break-through yet but was released (and again withdrawn) in Eagletac D-series.

i would expect to see the XP-G2 in a Eagletac flashlight first, and if these new LED's prove to be market-proof, other companies to follow would be Xeno, and maybe Zebralights. 4Sevens is more interested in car racing (if you remember their youtube channel lol).

You can actually purchase these from cutter.

I hope illuminationsupply will have these soon. :beer:

I hope these are not plagued by the green tint like the s2 bins were,I'd like a few to mess around with.

Narrower field of view for better throw, plus more output means this should be good for flashlights!

x2… when the R4 BINs were released a lot of them were very green… especially when driven at lower currents.

I have an R5 quark AA, its a nice light but it has a slight but noticeable green tint, especially at lower mode settings.
My LD25 (around 5000K) turns noticeably more yellow at lower modes.

I am not a huge fan of the XPG. IMHO the XML and XRE (and its quad cousin MCE) are much more color-stable.

Very very close to XM-L’s efficiency. I put the figures into the LED calc and its 541 lumens for this at 1.5A and 568 lumens for XM-L at 1.5A.

I want 5 of them in a Trustfire J12! Should throw some 60k cd and get the same 2300 lumens OTF. :smiley:

Smaller viewing angle is good for aspheric not good for relector

You beat me to this comment. I always felt the XP-G in small reflector AA style torches had just a bit too wide of viewing angle…to me i’m betting this combo of slightly smaller angle plus increased efficiency should give the new wave of AA format torches quite a bit more punch!!!

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.2------129
.3------167
.4------197
.5------232
.6------264
.7------289
.8------319
.9------340
1.0-----367
1.1-----393
1.2-----411
1.3-----432
1.4-----448
1.5-----466
1.6-----484
1.7-----496
1.8-----510
1.9-----519
2.0-----527
2.1-----536
2.2-----541
2.3-----546
2.4-----548
2.5-----549

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?340892-New-2nd-Generation-Cree-XP-G2-LED!&p=3982696&viewfull=1#post3982696

Boaz these are correct but remember, these are minimum specs@85 C. With some luck ,this means that@1,5amp with a good reflector+UCL a 440 OTF stable flashlight might be possible. This is just a bit worser than a U2 xm-l , which can go to about 470 OTF at the same current, on lower currents you might practically see no difference in lumens, for up to 1amper. . The next binning of xp-g S2 will have almost the same performance@1,5amper and better performance for lower currents. I think this is evolution, don’t remember that this product just came out.
And i forgot to mention that i have ordered from the first day ten of them to put them down, can’t wait to get them, i am already planning to mod all my flashlights with this one(that are currently operating with a xm-l) for currents up to 1,5 amper.

I'm very excited about these....and have a few on order from Cutter :)

Really looking forward to your opinion on them, Match. You are going to put one through your rigorous testing, aren’t you?

Just saw on illuminationsupply they have xp-g2 in 1D tint on 20mm and 10mm boards

Anybody ever try to centre a 10mm board on a p60 drop in? I have no experience reflowing emitters and really want
to try this xp-g2 out

Since you need all the heat sink you can get in P60 drop-in, do not use a 10mm board, wait until the 16mm ones show up. Soon the market will be saturated with 16mm boards.

I was starting to thinking the same thing.
Think i will wait.
Thanks for the advice

You can always file down a 20mm board to fit.