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yeah, we have a winter storm warning going tomorrow too.
and i have $50 ebay gift card i cannot for the life of me spend. either its something i can get way cheaper away from ebay, or its something that can wait, or its not really something i need…
looking at a sog seal pup elite straight edge, but i would need to pay out more than the gift card.
looking at a parts kit for my new omnifuel, but figure that can wait.
looked at a soldering station, but rip off on ebay.
looking at a couple heat exchange pots for my camp stoves, but dont really need them right now.
looking at a rebuild kit for my optimus 8r… you know.

whats the weather like in kentucky anyways?

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Speaking of crazy drivers, I thought a Buck driver was a deer with a driver's license and a boost driver was the guy behind the wheel of a stolen car. That would make a Buck/Boost driver a deer with a stolen car. Oh, dear.......

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Wow, a deer driving a car? Maybe it sounded like this singer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k

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why did the chicken cross the road?

what light did the chicken EDC?

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Deer Drives Car

Deer are amazing! They can even internet:

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Ouchyfoot wrote:
Make it simple for me to understand. I just modded a light with a 1.0A buck boost driving a Nichia 219. How would that relate to my light when running it on a 14500 as compared to an Eneloops.
Keep it simple so I can easily comprehend.

The driver will buck the voltage of a 14500 until Vbattery drops below the Vf of the Nichia at 1A then boost until depleted. With an eneloop the driver will boost the whole time.

While in buck mode the current into the driver will be less than the current out. While in boost mode the current into the driver will be greater than the current out.

The op was a tad inflammatory with its references to hypocrisy and shills but at least it wasn’t defensive. I just checked in to see who had some funny bits to go off topic with.

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18sixfifty wrote:
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Most likely this would be considered looking for trouble. I doubt this thread will go anywhere good and anywhere at all, besides being closed.

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It’s ok to me. We don’t need moderator yet for this post. BLF is more tolerant compare to other forums.

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kronological, good you are calm down now. To me it is okay to argue occasionally, but must do it with solid points. Of course, some just hate to see arguments.
And some member might have bad experiences with certain vendors so they are against those vendors. If a vendor is good, others will defend that vendor. So it is vendors’ responsibility to please their customers with good price and good service, and build good relationship in long terms. For example, Rick who sell BTU without AR coated lens got spared by most members here even BTU came without AR coated lens. That is relationship saved him out. If a new vendor did that, sure that vendor will be “attacked” in many post for very long time.

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I’ve gone through this post repeatedly and sympathise with the Krono. There are many products in the world with good and bad histories. Doesn’t matter where they proliferate from. However the differences are seen when it comes down to having a good business plan or not. That determines quality and staying power of the products offered. Esp post WW2 when the global economy recovered. Take for example domestic products. See how the Japs made good with most home electronics and vehicles (oddly why they didn’t pick up on flashlights). EU and US came up with some good vehicles and office equipment too. Looks like the dominant ones that survived in the end had some plan in mind from the beginning. Now if only the many ****fire factory owners had some clue about where they want themselves, brand and products to end up in future.

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Orion wrote:
I’ve gone through this post repeatedly and sympathise with the Krono. There are many products in the world with good and bad histories. Doesn’t matter where they proliferate from. However the differences are seen when it comes down to having a good business plan or not. That determines quality and staying power of the products offered. Esp post WW2 when the global economy recovered. Take for example domestic products. See how the Japs made good with most home electronics and vehicles (oddly why they didn’t pick up on flashlights). EU and US came up with some good vehicles and office equipment too. Looks like the dominant ones that survived in the end had some plan in mind from the beginning. Now if only the many ****fire factory owners had some clue about where they want themselves, brand and products to end up in future.

its a different mindset in doing business, if the company fails they can rebrand and try again, or go into the next industry
then rinse and repeat

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Bort wrote:
its a different mindset in doing business, if the company fails they can rebrand and try again, or go into the next industry then rinse and repeat

Quite true. Recycled flashlight factories and their businessmen abound in China. They just pick themselves up again and launch a start-up in another guise. Or somebody will just take-over where they left off. But a few brands still remain through the years (Solarforce, Fenix, etc). Something good must have been going well there. Other than determination, there could be something about a corporate vision/mission involved in their formula. Seems a waste to change it if these brands are achieving a certain level of quality. This kind of success can’t be happening by chance.

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marcl wrote:
kronological wrote:
There exists a certain hypocritical bias from some BLFers…well…really the world. Don’t get me wrong…it’s OK to expect a higher standard. However, it’s a two-way street…isn’t it? Some folks selectively look the other way when their favorite vendors participate in, shall we say, certain distasteful activities. Typically, this curious bias seems to coincide with the peculiar behavior of pointing out the flaws of others. Added for extra emphasis, self-righteousness and perceived legitimacy…the “Shill!” label given to some that dare differ in opinion.

Face it…Chinese vendors SUCK. However, some just suck…less. Know that going in and you will save yourself a lot of heartache and argumentation with folks that think they have the market cornered on morality…and honest vendors.

I’m not necessarily trying to stir things up here, but perhaps we should be honest and think before throwing rocks at glass houses. This was posted to promote honest conversation about the things we buy…not to promote argumentation.

Now…back to your regularly scheduled flashaholic consumerism Silly

I’m not sure I understand your post. I’ll tell you why. When ever anyone mentions Wallbuys, you post and say how good they are OR you make a comment that goes like ‘lets see how long it takes for the haters to turn up’ That kind of thing, so, If you are saying that people are calling you a ‘shill’ then I can understand this. I personally don’t think you are really, nor am I trying to insult you. Just trying to understand where you are coming from.

Marc.

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