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You can easily center the emitter/s:
- apply fujik
- use centering rings for all emitters
- mount the reflector
- align all emitters with tweezers until reflector sits nice and flush
- press it firmly against flat surface or just screw in the glass lens and bezel.
- wait while it hardens…

 

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It can’t be direct drive. The LEDs look like they are all connected in series. It would take around 15 cells to to direct drive them.

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Sirius9 wrote:
You can easily center the emitter/s:
- apply fujik
- use centering rings for all emitters
- mount the reflector
- align all emitters with tweezers until reflector sits nice and flush
- press it firmly against flat surface or just screw in the glass lens and bezel.
- wait while it hardens…

How long does the Fujik takes to become hardened?

And what if I want to use something better, says AS5, but which will never hardens? I tried to use AS5 and center my LED’s in DRY but the LED’s kept moving around.

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bibihang wrote:
Sirius9 wrote:
You can easily center the emitter/s:
- apply fujik
- use centering rings for all emitters
- mount the reflector
- align all emitters with tweezers until reflector sits nice and flush
- press it firmly against flat surface or just screw in the glass lens and bezel.
- wait while it hardens…

How long does the Fujik takes to become hardened?
And what if I want to use something better, says AS5, but which will never hardens? I tried to use AS5 and center my LED’s in DRY but the LED’s kept moving around.

There are different types of AS5 available.

 

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bibihang wrote:

How long does the Fujik takes to become hardened?

And what if I want to use something better, says AS5, but which will never hardens? I tried to use AS5 and center my LED’s in DRY but the LED’s kept moving around.


It probably depends on a temperature but in my experience after 3 hours you can still move emitter but it will hold it’s place, after 6 hours you can comfortably go on with your experimentation and after 12 hours, it’s done, hard to remove anything at this point.
If you use stuff that doesn’t harden emitter will always move.

 

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MRsDNF wrote:
bibihang wrote:
Sirius9 wrote:
You can easily center the emitter/s:
- apply fujik
- use centering rings for all emitters
- mount the reflector
- align all emitters with tweezers until reflector sits nice and flush
- press it firmly against flat surface or just screw in the glass lens and bezel.
- wait while it hardens…

How long does the Fujik takes to become hardened?
And what if I want to use something better, says AS5, but which will never hardens? I tried to use AS5 and center my LED’s in DRY but the LED’s kept moving around.

There are different types of AS5 available.

The one in your link is Arctic Alumina, which is an adhesive type. While I was using Artic Silver 5, it has no ceramic content with it and does not posses strong bond adhesion like Arctic Alumina.
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bibihang wrote:
MRsDNF wrote:
bibihang wrote:
Sirius9 wrote:
You can easily center the emitter/s:
- apply fujik
- use centering rings for all emitters
- mount the reflector
- align all emitters with tweezers until reflector sits nice and flush
- press it firmly against flat surface or just screw in the glass lens and bezel.
- wait while it hardens…

How long does the Fujik takes to become hardened?
And what if I want to use something better, says AS5, but which will never hardens? I tried to use AS5 and center my LED’s in DRY but the LED’s kept moving around.

There are different types of AS5 available.

The one in your link is Arctic Alumina, which is an adhesive type. While I was using Artic Silver 5, it has no ceramic content with it and does not posses strong bond adhesion like Arctic Alumina.

Down the bottom of the page is AS5 adhesive in a 7 gram tube.

 

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blueb8llz wrote:
wait a sec. i just noticed on their website that it takes 18650s . is this right? i thought for this size of light, and you said king kongs, that it would surely take 26650s.

do you think your at 6000 lumens with that small upgrade you just did?

It takes either of them.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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bibihang wrote:
I couldn’t wire and center all the 15 emitters like that, man it takes serious practice to be able to do that. I even have trouble to center just three emitters of my DRY.

By the way, from the picture it seems that the heatsink is black color, does it mean that the heatsink is anodized or something?

Yep each one of these kind of lights has the head anodized. It doesn’t seem to matter. There isn’t close to enough amps running through each emitter to fry them.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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texaspyro wrote:
It can’t be direct drive. The LEDs look like they are all connected in series. It would take around 15 cells to to direct drive them.

It’s 3 arrays of 5 emitters. So four batteries per five emitters.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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so i wont work with 3×26650s? i only have 3 from my ak47 and if i went with 4 batteries, that means i would have to buy 4 new ones.

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blueb8llz wrote:
so i wont work with 3×26650s? i only have 3 from my ak47 and if i went with 4 batteries, that means i would have to buy 4 new ones.

The extension on it is for two batteries.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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hmm… what if i used 4×18650’s , would it still be as bright compared to using 4×26650s?

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blueb8llz wrote:
hmm… what if i used 4×18650’s , would it still be as bright compared to using 4×26650s?

It didn’t seem to be quite as bright with the 18650’s but I didn’t put the greatests ones in. Probably some sag involved. I would imagine with a really good set of 18650’s that it would be just as bright.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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MRsDNF wrote:

Down the bottom of the page is AS5 adhesive in a 7 gram tube.

Aw, missed that, thanks for pointing out.
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I want a wall of light too! Who sells these in the US?

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AngryDaddyBird wrote:
I want a wall of light too! Who sells these in the US?

I don’t know of anyone in the US who is selling one yet.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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blueb8llz wrote:
hmm… what if i used 4×18650’s , would it still be as bright compared to using 4×26650s?

You could probably use some protected Panasonic NCR18650PD’s with no loss in current, but you would definitely lose some run time.

http://intl-outdoor.com/2-pcs-panasonic-ncr18650pd-2900mah-protected-bat...

Might as well just get some King Kong INR’s or MNKE IMR’s in 26650 if you are going to go that route though…

http://edcplus.com/mnke-imr26650-3700mah-p-5.html
http://intl-outdoor.com/2-pcs-kingkong-inr26650e-raisedtop-4000mah-liion...

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how many mm of thickness have this host under the leds?

with this perspective I cant see it

you have pictures like this of the host for see the thickness?

like this pictures of trj18:

I need to know the thickness and if the heat transmission is good to decide what multiled host to buy

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It didn’t seem to be that thick. I sold it so I can’t say for sure how thick it is. But it seemed to be about average as far as multi-emitters go.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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pfffffffff i have received this light today …..only 2mm of aluminum under the leds :Sp :Sp :Sp :Sp :Sp no way to upgrade to 150w in this host

the stock power with 2 batteries is ridicule

with 2 batteries 0.85 amp x 8.4v= 7w :Sp :Sp :Sp

with 4 batteries 3.2 amp x 16.8v =53 w :Sp

I think it don’t give more than 4500-5000 lumens with 4 fullchargued batteries

and I don’t like the projection it make one “big ring“this reflector its a crap….. I think the ak-90 and trj20 12x reflector must be much better


pfffffffffffff

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wow looks like crap.

Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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18sixfifty wrote:
texaspyro wrote:
It can’t be direct drive. The LEDs look like they are all connected in series. It would take around 15 cells to to direct drive them.

It’s 3 arrays of 5 emitters. So four batteries per five emitters.

it have coil but it apears to be like direct drived 5s 3p

i have tested just 3 or 4 seconds with 5 batteries not fullcharged and got 6.5 amp (more tan 100w) lol

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moviles2 wrote:
18sixfifty wrote:
texaspyro wrote:
It can’t be direct drive. The LEDs look like they are all connected in series. It would take around 15 cells to to direct drive them.

It’s 3 arrays of 5 emitters. So four batteries per five emitters.

it have coil but it apears to be like direct drived 5s 3p

i have tested just 3 or 4 seconds with 5 batteries not fullcharged and got 6.5 amp (more tan 100w) lol

Well that explains why when I put 20 gauge wire on and used ICR KK 26650’s it was so much brighter. I also de-domed the center emitters so that it had a better throw and the ring really wasn’t bad outside, at least not to my eye. When I sold it I thought it was a great light. But I have a bunch of multi-emitters so I let it go. I wonder what it would have done with 4 Moli cells or the Sony 50a batteries I have now?

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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i have tested more time with 5 batteries (never more than 8 -10seconds )and the power and the amount of light is really high

…maybe 5 aw 26500 imr can fit but I have buy this flashlight for use it with 2 batteries

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Hmm, 5 in series and you didnt toast the driver?? What kind of batteries? I’m still waiting on some KingKongs myself.

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after mod the spring for reduce the resistance and test with 5 batteries imr I got 8 amp and the original driver finally get burned

now I must decide what to do, I want run it with 14 leds and 2 batteries in 2s7p configuration but rewire all the leds will be bored and the switch maybe don’t will survive

now I have it with 4 batteries one driver “east-92” and around 4 amp with the leds in the original 5s 3p configuration





for use the east-92 with 5 batteries I think will be necessary add some resistor or the current will be too high

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I should receive 4 trustfire 26650 batteries by January 10. this video was done with ultrafire 18650 batteries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkxf-b6jLyc&feature=c4-overview&list=UUE...

One mighty light is all I need!

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Welcome aboard the_don909.

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please dont buy this flashlight the reflector are crap.

the reflector of the 12xm-l like ak90 and the 12 xm-l 6×18650 from kaidomain are much much better

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