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I think this thread has lived up to it’s name. Smile

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I stopped going there when one butt hurt ignorant member couldn't stand losing an argument and had a moderator selectively delete my posts and lock the thread so that he'd win.

The low mode should be lower.

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I cant believe that dale has been to cpf and failed to be convinced that its better to drop $200 on a poorly designed light with output so anemic most wouldn’t even accept it in a key chain light let alone a $200 pipe bomb, rather than dropping $200 on a modded Chinese light with outputs in the range of a significant percentage of the sun.

Seriously, you think you can just go on cpf, poke fun then leave them to it? Just wait till justice sees this thread BOLD CAPITALS WILL BE OUT AND EVERYTHING while tge imbecile spits feathers about you not instantly respecting the obvious superiority of the cpf mentality!

Shame on you!

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And here I was, thinking we don’t talk about “them” as it empowers “them” and their fragile ego’s !

Oh and things end up borked when quoted too many times, so unless you desire all and sundry to end up being me, it’s best practice to not multi quote ad infinitum !

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Pulsar wrote:

I want an m6, but $250-300… Nah…

at the 2008 shot show, from Surefire, for chugging the most shots of something….it was an M4 Devastator Incan….which I promptly had modded to 6 x R5 Cree…

I WILL NOT OVERPAY FOR ANY LIGHT AND S^^^FIRE IS OVERPRICED

oops, I didn’t spell out Surefire so I don’t get banned…..old CPF habit S)

oops again…I forgot this is BLF

and BTW- I have PLENTY of Chinese lights I’d trust my life to: Nitecore EA4, EA1,EA2,EC1,EC2, XinTDX3, Shadow JM07, Blackshadow Darth, numerous Ultrafires,Trustfire TR-006,Crelant 7G5cs, several Eagletac M3C4, numerous Fenix, several Thrunite,XTAR S1, BK10, BK12, etc…..so what are they talking about? LMAO

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gords1001 wrote:
I cant believe that dale has been to cpf and failed to be convinced that its better to drop $200 on a poorly designed light with output so anemic most wouldn’t even accept it in a key chain light let alone a $200 pipe bomb, rather than dropping $200 on a modded Chinese light with outputs in the range of a significant percentage of the sun.

Seriously, you think you can just go on cpf, poke fun then leave them to it? Just wait till justice sees this thread BOLD CAPITALS WILL BE OUT AND EVERYTHING while tge imbecile spits feathers about you not instantly respecting the obvious superiority of the cpf mentality!

Shame on you!

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Pulsar wrote:

Luckily Boaz is on vacation right now. Tongue Out

You misspelt rehab again. Or is your spell checker configured to fix "rehab" -> "vacation"? Tongue Out

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I am trying not to use that word, because I doubt their flashlight addictions will be cured Silly

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steve_vance wrote:
Pulsar wrote:

I want an m6, but $250-300… Nah…

at the 2008 shot show, from Surefire, for chugging the most shots of something….it was an M4 Devastator Incan….which I promptly had modded to 6 x R5 Cree…

I WILL NOT OVERPAY FOR ANY LIGHT AND S^^^FIRE IS OVERPRICED

oops, I didn’t spell out Surefire so I don’t get banned…..old CPF habit S)

oops again…I forgot this is BLF

and BTW- I have PLENTY of Chinese lights I’d trust my life to: Nitecore EA4, EA1,EA2,EC1,EC2, XinTDX3, Shadow JM07, Blackshadow Darth, numerous Ultrafires,Trustfire TR-006,Crelant 7G5cs, several Eagletac M3C4, numerous Fenix, several Thrunite,XTAR S1, BK10, BK12, etc…..so what are they talking about? LMAO

Plus you can buy 5-10 of them for the same price, I know 5-10 of those are more reliable than one Surefire Wink

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B42 wrote:
Plus you can buy 5-10 of them for the same price, I know 5-10 of those are more reliable than one Surefire Wink

Wow, B42 and I agree on something. :bigsmile:

Not so different after all, eh?

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I have PLENTY of Chinese lights I’d trust my life to.

This is something I’ve never understood.

Solarforce makes, or did make anyway, a tactical tail cap (momentary on, twist for constant on). I have one on my L2T (along with a Customlite, single mode drop in). My understanding is that this is the most reliable tail cap because there are no moving parts; it’s basically just a big spring.

Now, some of Surefire’s reputation for reliability comes from the fact that most of their tactical lights using this type of switch. So how is it my budget set up will not be as reliable as any of the similar Surefires?

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Those are my thoughts exactly! I dare not ask tho… There would be a monumental butthurt movement. Looking at them, my solarforce L2T would stack up nicely against them. At a quarter of the cost.

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Dale wrote:
I dare not ask tho.

That’s what’s so funny Dale. Both camps allegedly love flashlights, but only one side is, generally speaking, tolerant of the other. Sure, we may have some fun at their expense. Sure some of us may think some brands are overpriced. But only we seem to enjoy all flashlights. Pretty myopic over there despite their claims of being a bunch of hardcore flashaholics.

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I dare not ask tho.

That’s what’s so funny Dale. Both camps allegedly love flashlights, but only one side is, generally speaking, tolerant of the other. Sure, we may have some fun at their expense. Sure some of us may think some brands are overpriced. But only we seem to enjoy all flashlights. Pretty myopic over there despite their claims of being a bunch of hardcore flashaholics.

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Surefire is the best flashlight period. That’s why I own none. LOL!

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:
Surefire is the best flashlight period. That’s why I own none. LOL!

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That best Surefire I have had was a very wet night, the bush, waterproof match and a very volatile liquid. Guaranteed to work and never fail.

 

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Surefire? is that those overrated, old, outdated, inefficent, battery-eating electonic candles made from metal i keep hearing about they worship there ?

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cone wrote:
But only we seem to enjoy all flashlights.

I bet a couple of them are lurking here too. And one night, alone at home and tipsy, some surely have ordered a beautiful C8 or something after reading a awesome review here. Now they have one, love it, and are to ashamed or frightened to tell their fellow flashlight friends.
That’s not an easy fate. Silly
Humor aside, I probably shouldn’t talk like this since I wasn’t an active member there. Just registered a couple of times and read some interesting topics.
But to me, the place was always somewhat un-homy and confusing. I always thought it was some kind of language barrier, felt uncomfortable at some point and left for a year or so. ^^
But reading now all your testimonies, the place looks more like a schoolyard to me. No Hilfiger/D&G/whatever clothes – no place in the cool kids club for you, sorry.
I hope I’m getting it wrong again. If not, it’s actually a quite sad situation there I think. ^^

I would like to take apart a modern surefire one day to check the actual quality, also electronic-wise.
To be fair, I guess many have seen Chinese lights which were somewhat dodgy. If one wants to buy a premium light that is perfect out of the box then this is surely a legitimate reason to pay a premium price.
I’m just not sure if surefire is actually that much of a premium product. Smile

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The best I can figure. It’s a fierce loyalty to American made products. I can understand that, but wouldn’t adhere to it to the point of ignoring technological advances.

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Which torches are more technically advanced? I see many Chines so called flame thrower lights that aren’t advanced, I don’t see squeezing 12 highpower leds onto an inadequate heat sink is advanced, I think the mre expensive manufacturers have a reputation to protect and must make reliable products to survive, you might buy 10 or more torches a year but you’re not the target market a large proportion of Surefires business is contract sales and the product must be shown to be proven reliable, these customers are repeat buyers.

Look at the money a carpenter will spend on a hammer, my cheap old hammer gets the job done but a real tradesman wouldn’t be seen dead using it. Good tools cost money for a reason.

Charlie Chan or Chinese super torch manufacturer on the other hand can jam a heap of leds into a light and not worry whether it lasts, his development costs are almost zero because his ebay special doesn’t have to last, how many times do we see torches with paper thin heatsinks and not even a smear of heatsink compound.

You really do need to compare like with like.

Cheap torches = fun, but are not in the same league, your all trying to compare a lada with a range rover they’ll both get you there just the lada is going to fail far more frequently. To think otherwise is stupidity.

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Surefires only claim to fame (IMO) Weill its twofold. Being American made & the military contrscts they won back when Washington crossed the Delaware. Other than that, they are substandard lights. They haven’t evolved & are a waste of cash.

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I’m not here to argue, your entitle to your opinion.

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I was going to say the same thing Big Smile out I appreciate your opinion. Though that last post came across a bit too direct. Thats unusual for for. I’m generally very passive…. LOL

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can i interest anyone in a sure fire wrist light?

$495 plus shipping/tax for an 80 lumen light

now thats a deal!

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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fartybum wrote:
Charlie Chan or Chinese super torch manufacturer on the other hand can jam a heap of leds into a light and not worry whether it lasts, his development costs are almost zero because his ebay special doesn’t have to last, how many times do we see torches with paper thin heatsinks and not even a smear of heatsink compound.

Although you may know, Zebralight and Fenix are Chinese made-lights too. Silly So you are not making fair comparisons.

I think some of it is just plain anti-Chinese sentiment.

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lada vs range rover is a bad analogy too, I’d trust the lada before I trusted the British Leyland crap.

I’m sure surefire are pretty reliable, its just the dollar/lumen ratio is pretty poor and the bullet proof build is unnecessary for most usage, a classic maglite will, in ordinary everyday use prove just as reliable as a surefire but costs so much less.

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