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ChiggerPepi wrote:
This is the transmitter you want. It’s pretty much awesomeness. Think of it as the SolarForce of transmitters.

http://turnigy9xr.com/

I use mine almost daily on my V911, which is also awesome btw.

I also occasionally use it on my Pulse XT 40, which is great, but not the best starter airplane. Balsa doesn’t hold up well to crashes. Styrofoam is what you want. (and electric)


Will that bind with the Spektrum receivers used in the ultra micros?

I bought a a Spektrum Dx6i (for 79.99) and it works fine with my UM. But it won’t bind to my V911 or other WL Toys.

http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=SPM6600

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I flew control line 049s quite a lot at one time, sometimes by myself and sometimes with children and sometimes in a club, and have tried with only a little success to fly 049 and micro RC airplanes. Getting started is hard. The hard thing about CL 049s is that they are limited to a small arc and need to be heavy enough not to be blown away by the wind, so you have to develop reflexes before you respond fast enough to keep them in the air. Flying early in the morning when there is the least wind helps. I like solid balsa wood for beginners, because it is easy to make, very rugged and easy to repair. Flat slab wings work well if you have enough power to weight to overcome their high drag. They are always a bit stalled and can transition smoothly into a helicopter-like mode. Don’t even think about how it looks until you can fly reliably. Balsa wood and paper can be made very beautiful, but not five times a day.
About ready made versus home made, Keith Laumer said that there are perfectly good models that you can buy, but that way you lose exactly half the fun. Of course it also depends on the budget available. Having made it yourself increases your confidence in your ability to repair it.
With free flight, my problem was I had a fuel tank that didn’t leak and fuel left in it from the last time the engine was run. With RC, my main problem was not being able to see what it was doing, so next time I painted the right wing green and the left one red.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Where do most of you fly your airplanes? I live in Seattle and I can’t recall seeing people flying at any of the parks. I’m guessing it’s not allowed.

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Fiance is at school so I could not get a video. Clipped a branch and broke the flapper thingie on the back that makes it turn. Taped it back up with some yellow electrical tape and back in flight.

I did OK. longest flight was maybe one min before loosing control and crashing. Did a few controlled loops and lost control once up pretty high, cut power and was able to get it back into control into a glide and gracefully brought it down for a lighter crash landing LOL.

 

It is way too windy today for it though. 

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And its broke. Needs a new complete tail. Was not even my bad flying skills that did it. My fiances brother drove by and saw me flying it and stopped in and got to talking. My son decided to throw it around like a paper airplane. After he bounced it off the truck a few times I told him to stop because it is just stryrofoam and it will break easily. He said no it wont, and kept doing it.... He came back with the tail end flopping in the wind and said you can just tape it... LOL. 

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Can you glue it?

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Just get some foam safe CA glue and glue it back together. You might be able to tape it too. That is one of the reasons I didn’t like micros as the foam is fairly brittle and hard to fix. The Park Zone Sukhoi I had was like that. The tail was made out of foam that was like a styrofoam cup, very think and some what brittle. I broke the tail and then it went down hill from there. I mean I crashed it a few times before it became completely broken. I could fly it in 5-10 mph winds, but any thing above that it and couldn’t even move upwind. It would just sit there trying to go forward lol. It has to be a really calm day to fly micros. I think a park flyer size would be best and the foam they use for those is fairly easy to repair. I think they are made from EPO, but I am not positive. The T-28 form Park Zone is supposedly a really nice plane. I really liked my P-51D. The Vapor would be a really nice one to fly. It is super small and flies so slow.

Night Vapor

There is also the micro vapor that is small enough to fly in your house.

Micro Vapor

Here is a video of someone flying it in there house.

But like I said, I think a park flyer size plane would be the best size. They can handle some wind and are easier to repair than the micros. If worse comes to worse, you can buy a whole new body kit and swap the electronics over. With the micros, it’s not so easy. Once I trashed the Sukhoi, I just threw it all away. The micro servos and everything were just too small and got damaged anyways. The super cub would be a great one.

Super Cub

One last thing. Don’t get discouraged. It’s never if you will crash, it is WHEN lol. Everybody does it. The only way to get better is getting out there and flying. But a simulator will help a lot. I suggest this one from Hobby King. Or if you get a radio, you can buy one of the kits that has the cables that allows you to use your radio. This will save you from having to spend more money repairing/fixing your plane.

Flight Simulator Kit

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gcbryan wrote:
What do you think of this one?

http://www.bananahobby.com/4-ch-blitzrcworks-red-star-trainer-rc-trainer...

From this review, it looks like a nice plane.

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If you want to begin flying with RC planes, buy AXN Floater (Clouds fly) along with turnigy 9x. This is the best you can do. The plane is easy and fun to fly and the radio is good for even larger and more complicated planes Wink

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I don’t know if I’ll get one or not but it’s got to have landing gear.

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Trust me, you can’t go wrong with AXN floater or MULTIPLEX EasyStar II (or HOBBYKING BIXLER) You can alwys land on the grass or catch it in the air. It is not easy to land on the gear. I was disgusted of flying because of the first plane I bought (1,5m cessna) that is pretty hard to fly and i took me over a year to try it again with another plane. I wish I bought the AXN before! Smile

I have Spektrum DX8 radio and I have to tell that there is not big difference between this and T9x for normal user. You can flash custom firmware to the T9x to gain even more features than the DX8 has.

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Its like $7.99 for the new tail section. Not sure where it broke that it would be able to glue it and have it function properly.

The Champ was doing pretty good. At about 1/3 throttle I was doing decent, but it was windy so when a gust came I would loose control. Also sometimes I would turn too much and over correct and then I would panic and over correct again and it would be all over lol. 

I will probably order the new tail section later today so I can repair it this week and fly again next weekend. 

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gcbryan wrote:
What do you think of this one?

http://www.bananahobby.com/4-ch-blitzrcworks-red-star-trainer-rc-trainer...

I don’t know about the plane but in the RC community Banana has a pretty lackluster reputation. ALL their planes are wonderful, crash resistant, and suitable from everyone from beginner to expert. Uh Huh…sure.

That is not a beginner plane, that’s for sure. The gyro would probably help but it won’t overcome newbie dumb-thumbs.
Video reviews from vendors and folks that have been ‘bought off’ by vendors need to be reviewed skeptically. My first plane (Megatech skyliner > aka Megaturd) had fine video reviews but actually would not even fly. I had a pilot with lots of experience try.

If you don’t KNOW, the better option is generally buy something that has a large/huge following and GOOD support (parts available), especially if you don’t have a clue what you are doing besides trying to learn to fly. You WILL have crashes and you WILL need repairs and parts. It’s good to figure purchases from that point of view to start, NOT on how pretty and cool a plane is.

To Air is Human, to Respire….Divine.

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Or at least the US, or your country, based internet sales.

I jumped right into 6 ch 450 class helicopter. Scares the crap out of me but just lifting off and gently setting her down is a feeling of accomplishment, for my age. No 3D for me!

The problem is the parts are like ordering parts for the flash lights. Plane or heli I would highly recommend supporting your local hobby shop at sale time;)

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Thanks. Good advice I’m sure! I was thinking along those lines. A Cessna isn’t a pretty plane (to me) but I figured it was pretty stable. Parts are something I was wondering and thinking about.

I’ve only starting thinking about this recently. I do want to be able to land on wheels however. The landing is the cool part to me. Even in a full size plane you can take the plane off and fly it around on your first lesson. It’s the landing (and navigation and emergencies) that takes most of the time to learn.

I don’t think I have much interest in extreme aerobatics either. I do want the plane to look like a plane Smile and to be big enough to see while flying it. I’m still thinking about all this however.

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Well... a little glue and a little tape and I thought she was ready for flight. Dont know what else is wrong with it but it just wants to climb now. Low throttle and even trying to use the remote to keep it low. I was attempting to keep it in control and it was up about 50 feet, wind took it and I cut the power and tried to turn away, but she went right for the house. Ended up hitting the stairs on my back porch at about 20-25 mph I would say. Broke the prop and the main wing. Now its about $25 + shipping to have her air worthy again.

 

Think I used too much glue and tape on the tail end to repair. Thats the only thing I can think of why it seemed tail heavy and just wanted to climb...

If I end up having to buying a new Champ, the son is not touching it... ever.

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gcbryan wrote:
A Cessna isn’t a pretty plane (to me) but I figured it was pretty stable. Parts are something I was wondering and thinking about.

I grew up with a Cessna 150 Aerobat, the one with the checkerboard tail. Nope, not pretty and darn slow. The fun part was when you went inverted or actually made a full loop;) That was $10 an hour wet time, Bayou Flying Club at Lakefront Airport in New Orleans. Today, I bet it would be $60 an hour or more?

Check the internet for RC flying fields in your area, hell they got to be a lot of them there. There’s always Boeing Field…

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Flydiver, from this thread offered to show me how to fly RC’s and I’m going to take him up on it. It turns out we live close to each other and there is a RC friendly park nearby as well.

I learned to fly 150’s, 152’s, and 172’s. I don’t know what it costs to fly today either. I learned a long time ago and it was in the $30/$40 hr/range.

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Pulsar wrote:

Well… a little glue and a little tape and I thought she was ready for flight. Dont know what else is wrong with it but it just wants to climb now. Low throttle and even trying to use the remote to keep it low. I was attempting to keep it in control and it was up about 50 feet, wind took it and I cut the power and tried to turn away, but she went right for the house. Ended up hitting the stairs on my back porch at about 20-25 mph I would say. Broke the prop and the main wing. Now its about $25 + shipping to have her air worthy again.

 

Think I used too much glue and tape on the tail end to repair. Thats the only thing I can think of why it seemed tail heavy and just wanted to climb…

If I end up having to buying a new Champ, the son is not touching it… ever.

You got the CG too far aft. You probably needed to rebalance it after the repair.

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I'm going to put a new tail section on. Also going to order foam safe adhesive at the same time and a new main wing. The bottom of the tail fin that turns the plane broke off at the bottom right where it attaches to the fuselage. It's pretty much done for. I think he tried making it look like it was not broken and made it worse. 

Not going to put the new main wing on until the one that's on it is toast, just want to have spares so I'm not high and dry later on... 

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gcbryan wrote:
Where do most of you fly your airplanes? I live in Seattle and I can’t recall seeing people flying at any of the parks. I’m guessing it’s not allowed.

I haven’t flown recently. It depends on whether it is electric or fuel now days. There is a county park nearby where RC electrics are flown. For fuel burning ones, I was shown an undeveloped area near Santa Cruz. Quite a drive but a nice place to fly. There is a model airport somewhere around here, but I have not looked it up.
Of course rubber power is allowed most anywhere. I have seen people fly large RC gliders in a park with a windy hill across the Bay.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
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I’m thinking about a Bixler 2 as a first plane. Anyone here have one?

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I just ordered a Bixler 1.1 RTF.

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How is the plane coming along Pulsar?

I just tried to fly my new plane for the first time yesterday. It crashed before I reinforced the hinges with tape and it limited the elevator movement.

I took the tape off but it crashed again as the first crash had moved the battery forward from the CG balancing point.

No damage and next time I’ll have the battery Velcro’d in even more than this time.

I’m lucky that my plane is a pusher so crashing on the nose at least wasn’t crashing on the prop.

Painful to watch…
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7_RIajBMOb9Y0JpWVBGaThYWk0/edit?usp=dri...

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I put off new parts for a L2m, and another rather large order from Hank...  But soon I need to order parts to get this back in flight.

That was a painful video... 

I need a new prop, tail section and main wing. But I am also going to order glue too, and fix the main wing for now. Going to order glue, 2x props, tail section and a main wing. That way I hope to stay in flight for a while, and be able to repair most damage until I can order new parts. Think it will be about $25-30 for all that, so really not that bad. Just will need to keep myself from flying in winds and keep my 6 year olds hands off it haha

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Pulsar wrote:

I put off new parts for a L2m, and another rather large order from Hank…  But soon I need to order parts to get this back in flight.

That was a painful video… 

I need a new prop, tail section and main wing. But I am also going to order glue too, and fix the main wing for now. Going to order glue, 2x props, tail section and a main wing. That way I hope to stay in flight for a while, and be able to repair most damage until I can order new parts. Think it will be about $25-30 for all that, so really not that bad. Just will need to keep myself from flying in winds and keep my 6 year olds hands off it haha

The guy I was flying (trying to) with yesterday had a Champ. I was amazed at how light weight it was. Without the 6 year olds help Smile I would think it would be hard to damage. I guess trees would damage it however.

My plane was about 4 times the size of that plane. We had a little wind and he had his plane almost hovering when going into the wind.

I’ve seen (on YouTube) people take planes that looked really damaged and glue them back and fly them in just a few minutes. Foam seems the way to go! Smile

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