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Intl-Outdoor - less flashlights?

What’s happened to Intl-Outdoor? He barely has any flashlights left!? If you look under 1000+ lumens, there’s only two. Used to be a lot mot.

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The prices there are often a bit higher than the competition, so it's better if he carries lights that we want and competitors don't have even if that means carrying fewer lights.  At least I don't see the point in selling lights we don't really want for a higher price than other well known vendors.

The low mode should be lower.

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Several drivers have gone missing as well... Sad

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I heard a whisper about an interesting new driver being developed.

cant remember the vague details and I’d rather let hank post up specs that me post up guess work

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IOS seemed to be simply fading away with stock lowering by the week, looks like a clearance. There is only one single host left, only few lights, drivers don’t get stocked anymore… HKJ is just testing several drivers that are not on sale anymore.

I’d be very sad to see Hank go for good, I’m very happy with his service and his very exclusive and hiQ brands (Noctigon, Qlite, XinD). Afaik he’s even the only one to sell a Nanjg 110 at the moment.
I was quite afraid the mailing problems or some competition is pushing him out of business. But the shop still ‘lives’, he responded very fast and helpful – as he always did – when I e-mailed him a week ago.

Perhaps he just focuses more on unique products, like he did with the triple emitter noctigons. I definately hope for the best. And a new driver always sounds good… Smile

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He’s got the best selection of copper-sunk emitters around, and I have not found a MT-G2 for less than what he charges. I read reviews on some of the lights he carries and I really want all of the 26650 lights he has in stock, I’m just not in a position financially where I can justify a $50 non-monster light, even if it’s superb quality and perfect OTB.

I just placed a second order for parts from him, I hope he stays around.

Or perhaps he’s waiting for his stock to get to a threshold before he reorders?

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I would like it if he kept to a lower specialty item stock instead of flooded with the typical junk. If I need drivers, copper stars, or switch boots, he is my go to store. Also, if/when I order XinTD lights, he would also be my go to

Would be a shame if he lets his store die out. Dont know what to do if Noctigons, qlites and my blue boots could not be sourced

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Dont think they "leaked" the database files. They did not have the proper permissions set to the directories with the sensitive data. Yes, not good... But highly doubt it caused anyone any serious problems

kreisler wrote:

maybe the shop is going down?

 

i better jump ship

 

btw, weren't they the ones who had leaked the address database of all their customers twice (2 database files)??

wow. beautiful ***lling, kreisl me lol )

edit: added quote before its deleted and it looks like I am randomly bringing up old news 

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Dont think they “leaked” the database files. They did not have the proper permissions set to the directories with the sensitive data. Yes, not good… But highly doubt it caused anyone any serious problems

Plus there’s the paypal option.

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I’m hoping it’s just a lull while he’s waiting for new stock, especially high current drivers. I’m hoping he has a line on some quality custom IOS drivers.

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I finally decided to jump on an upgrade for my 7x-XML S7 light and the IOS site doesn't have the high-power multi-emitter driver listed any longer... I guess it's time for me to make an order via KD instead while I still can...

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keltex78 wrote:

I finally decided to jump on an upgrade for my 7x-XML S7 light and the IOS site doesn't have the high-power multi-emitter driver listed any longer... I guess it's time for me to make an order via KD instead while I still can...

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http://www.lck-led.com/26mm-3000ma-driver-modes-p-962.html ? Smile

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This is worrisome.
Nothing beats Noctigons. Red soldermask, totally flat back, wide traces. Really feels like a premium star. Hell, its fracking gold plated.
Not a fan of sinkpads at all (v1 or v2).


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Looks like he is aiming more for the flashlight enthusiasts and finding items that sells well. Especially for those who are into modding. I think Hank is doing well. Seems to be one step ahead of the competition when it comes to getting various items many desire... He is taking a lot of my money, that is for sure.

-Noctigons

-Lots of popular emitters (mounted on Noctigons)

-Qlite drivers

-Custom P60s and Xintd lights

There is no need for Hank to put a high focus on flashlights and campaigns when there is so much price competiton around flashlights from a bunch of others stores. Its better that he focus on what we want and maintain his good customer service instead of selling a bunch of flashlights with minimum profit.

I would like to see more drivers and hosts though, they seem to be disappearing..

Usually when this store gets a new item its a good one. Smile

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Last week I asked Hank about the missing high current drivers:

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Hi Hank,

I see that a few of the boost/buck drivers are no longer listed on your site; specifically the 7-LED boost driver and 4.5 amp buck driver. Are these drivers gone for good?

Thanks,
Richard

His response:

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Hi, Richard:

Yes, those driver are discontinued.

Regards!

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I think I got the last 4.5A driver... Sad

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Oh boy... I got like 3 of the 4.5A's in recently, but also got a couple of the LCK-LED 5A ones too. But this is scary - he's got some niche items. The LED's and Noctigons are unique, specially at those prices. I've gotten some good deals from him too, but he's been the most consistent supplier from day one for me.

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I hope that he stays in business as he does offer some unique products at good prices and as always been very good to deal with. I love my XinTD V4, Noctigons are awesome, qlites rock, and he is a good source for silicone wire and other small items.

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When listed items in his web store starting to reduce, I still see him login in Blf few times (up to this week).
I think he will listing new items.

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Even going back a year ago, I used to buy all sorts of accessory items that slowly dissapeared from his listings. I'd hate to add up how much I've spent there, but still over the year he's added a few important things like Noctigons Smile.

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I sure have done my best to keep him in business. I know I have spent at least three hundred bucks with him this year. Great business and I have nothing but good to say about them. I’m hoping to buy a bunch more soon.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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I just counted $1,100 in the last calendar year going quick thru my IOS order summary, ouchy! Surprised Money Mouth

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HarleyQuin wrote:
I was quite afraid the mailing problems or some competition is pushing him out of business. But the shop still 'lives', he responded very fast and helpful - as he always did - when I e-mailed him a week ago.

Which mailing problems?  The part about him having extremely slow shipping until recently, or the recent change being masked by the international shipping problems that have affected most companies?  Fwiw, I had one package delayed to the max, over the max actually because I accidentally let it go past the dispute time limit, so now I get nothing unless he decides to do the right thing even if Paypal isn't forcing him to.

The low mode should be lower.

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It’s a great store with fantastic items, unfortunately my last order with the MT-G2s has taken considerably over a month to show any tracking. I was getting worried but finally it’s in the country so should have it soon. Smile

Thinking of placing another order with him now but worried it will take this long again, anyone ordered in the last few weeks and gotten the item already? Has the chinese backlog cleared up somewhat or still slow?

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I also had a couple of slow orders which I am blaming on the overall China shipping situation. My last two orders arrived in under two weeks, with one of them being 8 days total.

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RMM wrote:
I also had a couple of slow orders which I am blaming on the overall China shipping situation. My last two orders arrived in under two weeks, with one of them being 8 days total.

Cheers, that sounds promising Smile

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My last order from IO was ordered 9-08, shipped 9-10 and arrived 9-30. So it was 20 days in transit.

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allan d wrote:
My last order from IO was ordered 9-08, shipped 9-10 and arrived 9-30. So it was 20 days in transit.

No, the shipping label was printed on 9-10. With any of these companies ‘Shipped” just means they bought the postage.

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Well, no point in me ordering a bunch of XM-L2 and MT-G on Noctigons if I can’t get any drivers to push them. This is totally screwing up my plans.

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Well, I was speaking to Hank about some other things and thought I would put your minds at ease.

I asked him whether he was closing down…

His response:

“No, we’re not closing down, only to adjust our business model.
We will be aiming more for the flashlight enthusiasts and provide
them with featured and unique products.
Currently, some innovative driver projects are under developing, it
really takes our time and energy, and I hope they will be released soon.

Regards!
Hank”

He also said:

“But please do not expect the drivers can be available soon,
the samples are under testing, and we are still not sure if there
will be further issues to be fixed.”

So it looks like pretty good news to me. I only use IOS for components and have been very happy with every order I have got from them. So will be good to see what comes out in the future!

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LSX wrote:
Well, I was speaking to Hank about some other things and thought I would put your minds at ease.

I asked him whether he was closing down…

His response:

“No, we’re not closing down, only to adjust our business model.
We will be aiming more for the flashlight enthusiasts and provide
them with featured and unique products.
Currently, some innovative driver projects are under developing, it
really takes our time and energy, and I hope they will be released soon.

Regards!
Hank”

He also said:

“But please do not expect the drivers can be available soon,
the samples are under testing, and we are still not sure if there
will be further issues to be fixed.”

So it looks like pretty good news to me. I only use IOS for components and have been very happy with every order I have got from them. So will be good to see what comes out in the future!

That’s great! It would be horrible if he shuts down. I’ve always got unbelievable good service from him. For example I ordered the Roche M170 but there was something strange about the ramping mode so I contacted him and he said that I can send it back. So I did and bought the Terminator instead with a small discount! Smile But right now I still miss the drivers and other things he had that are gone now Sad

Also, it wouldn’t surprise me if the HKP (and others) fiasco damaged him a little…

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