Enlan EL-01. Outstanding knife

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Gurthang wrote:
GC,

I’ve got several Enlans on order from Lazy Lizard [JoBen] including the 01. Can’t wait for them to arrive. I’ve got to study the “convexing” video so I can use that technique. All the users / reviewers have high regard for the Enlan/Bee knives so I’m really stoked to begin using them.

I’m sure you will enjoy it. That seems to be one of the budget knives that most everyone likes.

I think the convexing method is just using various grades of wet/dry sandpaper with either leather or a mousepad (something flexible). I’m trying to keep the V-grind on mind.

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They don’t even like knives that can be one hand opened here – thumb studs, spyder holes etc, all are frowned upon. Sad :~ don’t even get started on locks, sheath knives, machetes, kukri’s.

In my other hobby (off roading, green laning, wheeling, call it what you will) the advice is to carry a bill hook rather than any kind of knife as its a gardening tool…. It’s also an f off stick with a blade on the end, but who am I to argue….

What do you people in Britain get up to that your government can’t trust you with a pocket knife? Are people in the UK that crazy that if they are allowed to carry a weapon, they will hurt someone with it?

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gords1001 wrote:
They don’t even like knives that can be one hand opened here – thumb studs, spyder holes etc, all are frowned upon. Sad :~ don’t even get started on locks, sheath knives, machetes, kukri’s.

In my other hobby (off roading, green laning, wheeling, call it what you will) the advice is to carry a bill hook rather than any kind of knife as its a gardening tool…. It’s also an f off stick with a blade on the end, but who am I to argue….

What do you people in Britain get up to that your government can’t trust you with a pocket knife? Are people in the UK that crazy that if they are allowed to carry a weapon, they will hurt someone with it?

Ask the same question to anyone who lives in N.Y.C. and several other U.S. cities. Knife laws here are better and probably not enforced as often but many city ordinances here might be more restrictive than you realize.

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The EL-01 is still my most carried and used medium sized EDC, and also the most popular amongst other people I sell and gift them to. IMO, it still far outclasses every other folder in its size and price range. I dont regret purchasing the 100+ other models of Chinese manufactured knives because they are fun to collect. But for those looking for a single sturdy do-all knife, this is the one to have.

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I notice that some of big Enlans (EL 01, 02, 02B) are available with the Bee logo instead of the Enlan. The new formerly Enlan EL01 are now Bee EL01, Bee EL01 KH or Bee EL01A.
The design of the Enlan logo looks better in my opinion – I think I have to buy some old Enlan’s before they aren’t available anymore.

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I love my EL-01 (KH), I have successfully used it as a temporary kitchen knife and all around utility knife when I moved in to a new place for the school year. Only brought the essentials first time around and my EL-01 performed surprisingly well in the kitchen, didn’t get it too messy so that I could avoid having to strip it apart for cleaning (those darn screws!).

I love the ergonomics and the flipper/finger guard. Lockup is very solid and I have no worries about it slipping or failing. the ball detent is a little on the weak side, but understandable considering the weight of the blade. The only thing I would change is the pivot screw and perhaps some gimping on the thumb ramp, but for the price it already exceeds expectations as it is.

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It's just too damn big .

 They should make the same or similar knife in a 3/4 size .

It would sell it's butt off .

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Speedsix wrote:

What do you people in Britain get up to that your government can’t trust you with a pocket knife? Are people in the UK that crazy that if they are allowed to carry a weapon, they will hurt someone with it?

Moral panic fuelled by some of the world’s scummiest tabloids – so as to divert attention from their own misconduct. And populist politicians who thought that “knife crime” and being hard on it would win them more votes. Like a hefty minimum sentence for even being in possession of a knife.

Strictly speaking, any multitool with a blade that can be locked open (IOW one that is safe to use) is an offensive weapon.

As to how well this policy is working…

It isn’t. We just lock up more and more people.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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It’s just too damn big .

 They should make the same or similar knife in a 3/4 size .

It would sell it’s butt off .

Check the EM01 version http://www.exduct.com/Chinese-Folding-Knives/Bee-Enlan-Knives/EM01-Enlan-Pocket-Knife.html

Total length is 16,1 cm vs. 21,2 for the EL01.

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What do you people in Britain get up to that your government can’t trust you with a pocket knife? Are people in the UK that crazy that if they are allowed to carry a weapon, they will hurt someone with it?

What it is, the politicians and crown prosecution service have worked out you can prevent crime by simply making something illegal, I mean, everyone knows how good criminals are at obeying the law….

They also don’t seem to get that a legal system should turn criminals into law abiding citizens through punishment and rehabilitation, rather than turning law abiding citizens into criminals. :~

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Bak wrote:
Boaz wrote:

It’s just too damn big .

 They should make the same or similar knife in a 3/4 size .

It would sell it’s butt off .

Check the EM01 version http://www.exduct.com/Chinese-Folding-Knives/Bee-Enlan-Knives/EM01-Enlan-Pocket-Knife.html

Total length is 16,1 cm vs. 21,2 for the EL01.

Too bad it doesn’t have the flipper.

Personally, I like the size of the EL-01 but others that are a little smaller that I also like (and have) are the SRM 909 and the Bee L05-1.

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Tally-ho wrote:
This one has a flipper, full flat ground:
http://www.exduct.com/Special-Limited-Products/SP-L04GN-Bee-Pocket-Knife...

http://steelreviews.blogspot.fr/2011/07/bee-l04gn.html

Too bad it still has thumb studs and I’m not sure how good green pakawood would look in person. Actually pakawood (fake wood) doesn’t look that great (to me).

We’re trying to help BOAZ however Smile and he may like it. Smile

For me the EL-01D is perfect. Any smaller and a flipper is awkward to get to.

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Bak wrote:
Boaz wrote:

It's just too damn big .

 They should make the same or similar knife in a 3/4 size .

It would sell it's butt off .

Check the EM01 version "http://www.exduct.com/Chinese-Folding-Knives/Bee-Enlan-Knives/EM01-Enlan...":http://www.exduct.com/Chinese-Folding-Knives/Bee-Enlan-Knives/EM01-Enlan... Total length is 16,1 cm vs. 21,2 for the EL01.

+1

At the moment it is listed as a special limited product for $7.50. Here's a picture of the EM01 compared to the EL01:

EM01 vs EL01

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Dimlux,

Thanks for posting the pic of the EL and EM 01s. I just received the EL-01 and love it, but I was considering buying several EM-01s as gifts and wanted to see a size comparison before I ordered. Your pic is perfect, thanks.

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Here is a comparison picture of the Elan EL01 with the Bee L05-1 . The L05-1 has a full flat grind and feels so good in hand , and looks less tacticool ...

What I do

 

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I like the L05-1 as well (and have it). The EL-01D (Rosewood) feels pretty good in the hand as well and look better (to me) than the standard EL-01.

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Since I just got both the EL-01 and the L-05, looking at both side-by-side, the similarity is striking. It would be really nice if Enlan/Bee would use the L-05 and make it into a L-01 [same blade shape and grind]. That way you could have a trio of 01 knives; EL-01, L-01, EM-01.

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Mmm, ffg. Must resist.

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Mine arrived this morning. Bigger than I thought when I ordered it ( but I realised after seeing some of the comparison photos above that it wasn’t small). Yes, I know the idea is to take in what you are reading before buying, rather than just point and say “me want” Smile

It’s the Bee version, and looks sturdy enough. I had planned to use it on my boat, but don’t think I’ll risk taking it out of the house, after reading up on UK knife law, and some of the posts here. I’ll just stick it in my shed, I think.

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gcbryan wrote:
Bak wrote:
Boaz wrote:

It’s just too damn big .

 They should make the same or similar knife in a 3/4 size .

It would sell it’s butt off .

Check the EM01 version http://www.exduct.com/Chinese-Folding-Knives/Bee-Enlan-Knives/EM01-Enlan-Pocket-Knife.html

Total length is 16,1 cm vs. 21,2 for the EL01.

Too bad it doesn’t have the flipper.

Personally, I like the size of the EL-01 but others that are a little smaller that I also like (and have) are the SRM 909 and the Bee L05-1.

Great looking knife in the link – just too bad it lacks the flipper.
Nice anyway!

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Does the EM-01 use the same strippable and impossible to remove torx screws of the EL-01? could someone post a close up of the EM-01 pivot?

I’m thinking of trying it over getting another SRM710, but what I found is that the SRM 710 and 763 have the more durable hex screws, unlike enlan’s T6-ish torx. I also couldn’t help but notice the 90 degree corner that sticks out when it is folded, and the lack of gimping on the ramp. With a few minor tweaks and drilled out liners this knife could have been potentially perfect. I suppose I’m just too picky about these things :bigsmile:

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M1K3Z0R wrote:
Does the EM-01 use the same strippable and impossible to remove torx screws of the EL-01? could someone post a close up of the EM-01 pivot?

I haven't disassembled my EM-01 yet, just adjusted the pivot a bit using a torx T8. Here are two pics of the front and back (clip) side of the EM-01 pivot.

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Enlan EM-01 front side  Enlan EM-01 back (clip) side

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Has anyone found a source for quality replacement screws for any of the Enlan/Bee knives? I’ve done a bit of searching but I’m not certain what size / pitch to look for.

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Was out walking dogs Saturday and met two other dog owners that had been out deer hunting earlier in day. The discussion turned to knives so I took out my EL-01 and handed it to them. Both were impressed w/ its build quality and blade. One hunter has Buck knives the other carries a ZT. When I told them what I paid they were gobsmacked. The ZT owner just swore and flipped the knife open over and over. The Buck owner said he’d buy one in a heartbeat. When I told them I had two more of the same quality for less than $15 each the Buck owner asked if I’d sell him one. Told him to go online and look up Lazy Lizard and he could order all he wanted. Love my EL-01!

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Just noticed this Enlan EL-01 on Ali Express. Is this a new varient?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Enlan-EL-01D-One-Handed-Opening-Damascus-...FREE-SHIPPING/509405232.html

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Thoth wrote:

JohnnyMac wrote:

Thoth, how did you hollow grind the blade without wrecking the temper?

As Vectrex said I did the opposite of hollow grinding, the edge instead of a perfect V is now like a gothic arch.

Since I just convexed the edge not the full height of the blade and because I did it by hand with sandpaper and leather heat was not a issue.

I could have used the belt sander, in that case all that was needed to not ruin the heat treat is to mantain the blade cool while grinding, it is important to not use gloves so that you can feel the heat, and dunk the blade in water every couple passages on the belt. Also is important to notice that because the edge is much thinner than the back of the blade it will heat much faster.

The method I used is similar to this one:

 

Thats actually one of the better video’s Ive seen giving a direct comparison at the end, showing what a great slicer it made. An his point early in the video about the blade thickness directly applies to the Enlan EL-01

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Gurthang wrote:
Just noticed this Enlan EL-01 on Ali Express. Is this a new varient?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Enlan-EL-01D-One-Handed-Opening-Damascus-...FREE-SHIPPING/509405232.html

Oh wow a Damascus version, would probably look classy with the wood grips, still I’m not forking over the extra coin without even knowing what kinda steel or if its just a black etching.

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M1K3Z0R wrote:
Does the EM-01 use the same strippable and impossible to remove torx screws of the EL-01? could someone post a close up of the EM-01 pivot?

I haven’t disassembled my EM-01 yet, just adjusted the pivot a bit using a torx T8. Here are two pics of the front and back (clip) side of the EM-01 pivot.

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Enlan EM-01 front side  Enlan EM-01 back (clip) side

Thanks! ordered one to try.

I agree, that damascus EL-01 is definitely sketch. EL-01D is supposed to be the wooden handled version, but it seems like they tried to spin it as meaning damascus. Either way, if exduct doesn’t stock it I’m going to assume it’s a fake, just like many of the other things on aliexpress.

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M,

You are correct, the EL-01D model has rosewood scales, at least thats what ExDuct carries. OTOH, I have seen some budget Damascus blades recently so it is possible this is a new varient. Looking closely at the pic on Ali the metal layers are wavy but do not appear folded as seen in $$$$ Damascus blades. Until someone orders one I guess we all just have wait…

UPDATE: I checked the Enlan website. They do not show a Damascus blade EL-01. OTOH, the site is so difficult to follow let alone find the EL series knives I doubt it’s updated very often so again, it’s anyone’s guess if the Damascus EL-01 is genuine or not.

Another item of note. Has anyone purchased or seen the L07-1? Its listed on the Enlan site and it looks like an L sized version of the EL-01 right down to the flipper tab. I’ve checked both ExDuct and Lazy Lizard and neither even lists the L07-1.

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