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FIrst time poster and newbie flashaholic. Advice please!!!

  Just wanted to post a thread, first, to thank the community @ BLF for some wonderful content, and secondly, to maybe gain some advice.  After reading some reviews, I've placed orders for the KD c8 XML from KD, and the Xtar wp6 charger and some trustfire flame protected 18650s from Manafont.  I haven't received them yet, but am very excited to get a "real" flashlight, and play around a bit. 

  I've also ordered the L2T from solarforce, but haven't chosen a dop-in yet.  I'm still doing some reading about the various offerings from the vendors, but admittedly, am a little overwhelmed with the amount of info out there.  I think I'm getting the jist of all this mumbo jumbo, but am always grateful for advice from the experts.

Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself, and see what others have to say. Have I done alright so far with my purchases?  This seems like a real friendly bunch, and I'm really glad I ran across you guys!!!       Thanks a lot,   Dave

                                                           

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I also have a L2t ordered I done plenty of research before purchase and dont think you can wrong with SF , and the C8 seems to get the thumbs ups also

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Your purchases show you have done some reading. As far as dropins go, if you want an XML then the ultrafire three mode from manafont is well regarded. Even better is the ultrafire with strobe from manafont. No need to fear the strobe! They are the ones on manafont that show the ultrafire box in the pictures (too lazy for a link on my phone) and welcome to the joint

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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Thanks for the advice.  I'll check out the Ultrafire drop-ins from Manafont, and likely give one a go.

   With regards to the Flames, do you think they will be fine to start out with???  I'm one of those guys that think it's better to spend more if you are indeed getting a better product.  I've heard some good things about the AW and Xtar brands, but just don't have the experience/knowledge to know if they're worth the extra premium.

   Basically, I don't want a fireball on my hands!!!   LOL 

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What do you guys think of this drop-in from Manafont?  Comes with two reflectors, which is appealing, as it'll give me a first hand experience with the two types...

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/ultrafire-xml-t6-5mode-650lumen...

 

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Hi there 98dinan3, glad to have you here! Hope you find a lot of helpful resources here for your flashlight hobby.

I only own the Ultrafire 3-mode XM-L dropin from Manafont, but I would recommend it without reservation.

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Thanks for the advice, and the warm welcome.  As far as my soldering ability, it's not world class, but certainly not terrible either. 

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98dinan3 wrote:

What do you guys think of this drop-in from Manafont?  Comes with two reflectors, which is appealing, as it'll give me a first hand experience with the two types...

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/ultrafire-xml-t6-5mode-650lumen...

 

That is the dropin I have been buying. I love it. On every one I have bought so far the second reflector wont screw onto the pill. I still like getting the extra reflector though.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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Langcjl wrote:

that is the dropin I have been buying. I love it. On every one I have bought so far the second reflector wont screw onto the pill. I still like getting the extra reflector though.

What is keeping the op reflector from working properly?  You would think that they should work together considering they are being sold as a set...  lol  Have you had any luck fitting it to any other pills? or is it basically useless?

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The threads just dont quite match up. The OP reflector did fit nicely on a KD dropin I have. Its like the threads are the right size but the tolerance is off too much. It's budget quality tolerances.

   Great dropin though. If you get it you can come on here, talk about how awsome the strobe is and get a rise out of somebody.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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Just to appease my imagination as I was reading 98dinan3's choices. Would anyone have beamshots of the Ultrafire XML T6 with OP on a P60 host (maybe the Manafont Skyray or the L2T) with a DX aspheric lens..

Any idea? Too much artifacts, even with an OP reflector?

Welcome to BLF 98dinan3!

 

 

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 I love your choice of hosts but I'd say go out of your way to avoid strobes .Because no matter what you do... you'll end up with a million of them anyway  like it or not .Can you solder is a good question because it opens up another window of options ,tints ,drivers etc..most of which is pretty standard fare ...sounds like you're doing fine .I might have suggested choosing another emitter like the xpg ,and I might have suggested a different battery choice like a AA. but i like your pick of the solarforce l2t well enough to simply repeat what langcjl said ..looks like you know what you're doing .

 

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Welcome 98dinan3. Since you've already got the XM-L with your C8 you might get a XP-G drop-in for the L2T or a XR-E for some throw or maybe both just to see what those 3 types are like.

XM-L flood, XP-G large hotspot with some throw, and XR-E with a small hotspot and more throw!

I agree regarding the strobes! Soon you'll (probably) be avoiding them like the plague Smile

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dobermann100 wrote:

Just to appease my imagination as I was reading 98dinan3's choices. Would anyone have beamshots of the Ultrafire XML T6 with OP on a P60 host (maybe the Manafont Skyray or the L2T) with a DX aspheric lens..

Any idea? Too much artifacts, even with an OP reflector?

Welcome to BLF 98dinan3!

I don't think you're going to like an aspheric with a reflector. You're probably not going to like an XM-L with an aspheric but that's a personal preference I suppose. Personally I only like aspherics with a XR-E.. Regarding the reflector/aspheric combo though...try it sometime as see how you like it.

EDIT: Actually I have a 6P with a XM-L drop-in (Thrunite) with an OP reflector and I have a 28mm lens from DX laying around and it's now dark here so I took all that outside to see what it looked like and how it performed.

It looks like a disco ball until you get to the reflecting of the emitter image. That image is of course larger than that of a XR-E but it didn't throw that far. It didn't throw much further than if I didn't use the aspheric. It certainly didn't throw as far as a XR-E in the same 6P using the same aspheric would have thrown.

My particular XM-L is only driven at 1.4A. One driven at 3A would throw a little further still not as far as a XR-E. 3A can get pretty warm in a small 6P anyway.

Hope this helps.

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Welcome to BLF 98Dinan3

I would recommend  http://www.bavauto.com/  they are right up the street from my house and they have everything you could possibly need. I think these would be the best budget light for your application.

 

 

 

 

 

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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how about some links to some quality xp-g and xr-e drop-ins? 

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I believe that if you are not the kind of person who needs detail in 100m  XM-L will suffice.

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98dinan3 wrote:

how about some links to some quality xp-g and xr-e drop-ins? 

I could hook you up with some custom drop ins if you are interested.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/3016

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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@gcbryan

Thanks for the detailed and quick reply.. Since I'm not a dancer, the disco ball XML is not for me..

but you're right, probably will buy an XRE R2 or XPG R5 drop in, and the aspheric lens since its so cheap, and try it.

 

I guess all flashaholics get that itch sometimes a lot of times, to experiment with various "legoable" parts available, just to see the result and get it out of the way.

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98dinan3 wrote:

how about some links to some quality xp-g and xr-e drop-ins? 

http://goinggear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_35&produc...

This is a little more expensive than some. It's Thrunite XP-G for (1) 18650 or (2) CR123's or (2) 18650's for that matter.

http://www.sbflashlights.com/Solarforce-Dropins/Solarforce-LC-1-Cree-R2-...

Here's a Solarforce 3 mode XR-E R2 for (1)18650 or (2) CR123. It's not very expensive.

Here is a Solarforce 3 mode XP-G R5 for (1) 18650 or (1) CR123. It's not very expensive either.

http://www.sbflashlights.com/Solarforce-Dropins/Solarforce-LC-1-Cree-R2-...

Check all the stats before you buy as I did all this in a hurry Smile

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Here you go, Doby...  XP-G R5 in P60 w/ 28mm aspheric (and red rubylith)

 

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Errr... mmmmmm... ahhhhhh...

It's one small bright hotspot... but those rings!

How do you like it @Be-Seen Triker? 

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welcome to BLF. Good choices made. I second the xtar 2600's. Great value for money.

 

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A lot of the newbies are having trouble fitting the x tars in there lights i would recommend some Trustfire flames.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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dobermann100 wrote:

@gcbryan

Thanks for the detailed and quick reply.. Since I'm not a dancer, the disco ball XML is not for me..

but you're right, probably will buy an XRE R2 or XPG R5 drop in, and the aspheric lens since its so cheap, and try it.

 

I guess all flashaholics get that itch sometimes a lot of times, to experiment with various "legoable" parts available, just to see the result and get it out of the way.

By the way, an aspheric thrower doesn't have to be ugly! You need to just buy a cheap XR-E drop-in and dedicate it as a thrower rather than trying to keep it so you can switch back and forth.

Just buy an $8 DX XR-E R2 drop-in (1 mode) and a $2 aspheric lens for your P60 host. Paint the reflector flat black. Paint that little Cree ring flat black. Take some Scotch "Magic" tape and mask out a large rectangle on the back (flat) side of the aspheric. Put it all together and you will have a "light sabre" with no spill and no artifacts.

If you're going to make a thrower however do it with the XR-E and not a XP-G or XM-L. Throw is about emitter surface brightness and about the diameter of the reflector or lens. The XR-E or XP-E have the highest surface brightness not the XP-G or XM-L. They have greater lumen output but not greater surface brightness so they won't throw as far.

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Welcome to BLF, Dave! Your purchases sound great and I can't wait to see how you like them. Wink

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Thanks for the links, and all the wise advice.  You guys really are part of a great little community.  I'll post some thoughts once everything arrives, should be within a couple weeks.  I'm getting anxious already...LOL! (and it's only been 4 days since I placed most of the orders.)

 

Ps.  How would I go about getting a couple pairs of those 18700 xtars through the group buy?  Any help is much appreciated!

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I don't know about other folks here, but I am done with XR-E dropins.

Sometimes they seem impressive in terms of throw, but I think it is almost an illusion. An XM-L seems to throw just as far AND it lights up everything around it as well. The only exception to that would be a light with a big reflector like the masterpiece pro that Foy has. If they optimized the reflector for an XM-L, I think the XM-L would still be a better light.

Maybe if I was going to use the light only for indoor use, the XR-E might be a player, like my Trustfire Z1.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

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XM-L has this reputaion of not throwing enough. XM-l was introduced on many small lights initially with relatively small or "normal" reflectors. Now once proper reflectors are built for it, it does appear to throw some light after all.

Check this guy's mod. A Trustfire STT-50 to XM-L from 24.000 LUX to 42.600 LUX   

http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showthread.php?t=4493&page=2&language=en

 

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Thrunite Catapult  V2  SST-50   26,500 LUX

Thrunite Catapult  V2  XM-l  46,000 LUX   

Results borrowed from CPF

Too bad it doesn't work with small reflectors, but XR-E is so small that small reflectors are big for it

   

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My Trustfire Z1 is begging for an XML if I could just find one that would fit.

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  Found that the KD C8 was in the mailbox when I came home today.  Not bad considering I ordered it really late on the 15th.   Ten days from the other side of the world.  I'm impressed.  Anyway, build quality is great.  No flaws on the anodizing at all, threads came lightly lubed, and overall, very clean.  One little surprise, the tail boot is GITD, as opposed to the black shown in the picture.  No thoughts on output yet, as I'm still awaiting the delivery of batteries and charger from Manafont.

 

 

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