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Banned again?

This was weird. I tried to go to CPF today only to find that I've been banned for 7 days. I've only been banned once before and that was for 1 day (or something like that) and that was for making a somewhat sarcastic comment to a moderator.

Today, I was banned for trolling! I wasn't trolling at all. I was interested in a Trunite AAA light but thought that .04 lumen for a low was not useful but was considering it anyway. I later found out that they (Thrunite) will be offering two versions with one having a low of 2 or 3 lumens.

I thought this was great and am waiting for that to come out. Some poster got all worked up over my post and anyone else's post that questioned the .04 low.

As of yesterday however everything had settled down and there was no problem. Some moderator had stepped in to say that he would have to get his banning wand out or something like that if things didn't get back on track.

I have posted no more since then. The guy who caused all the problems "thanked" the moderator...kind of like the home robber coming to the door to thank the police for arriving and ...I get banned?

I'm not even the last one to make the same point regarding the .04 low or to make the point that the one guy was taking every thing too personal and attacking everyone.

It really is a F'd up system over there at CPF. I can't even contact a moderator to ask what's going on.

Edit: I just found the following after I logged out and was able to go to one of the threads in question. By the way, the moderator that threatened to close the thread and ban if things didn't cool off isn't the one to did anything (since the thread did cool off). The moderator who did the banning was the "super moderator" DM51.

gcbryan, your post was pure trolling, with no other possible outcome than that of inflaming the squabble. Your usual preference is to portray yourself as a wise and knowledgeable older member, but on this showing, you are clearly not up to it. Your sneering and contemptuous personal attack on another member means the rest of us will now be able to enjoy a whole week free of further lofty pontification from you.

I think my days of contributing to that piece of crap site may be coming to an end. There are subjects that I'm interested over there so I'm probably not leave entirely but it's hard to want to contribute to a site with a guy like DM51 running the show.

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Contacting a moderator and questioning his decision will get you a longer ban.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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The annoying thing is that what the moderator wrote and I've posted above was in a public forum and not just to me so he has posted something much ruder than anything he is accusing me of doing. That is the crudest SOB on the whole site.  It's very irritating to have a guy like that in charge.

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Truly sad. I hate it when mods make a place that should be awesome unbearable.

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Though people frequently get me wrong, few people in my life have ever misrepresented me so badly that I seriously thought about suing them for defamation of character or slander, or at least getting a lawyer to write a letter. DM51 has been one of them. Then I realized he/she/it was in another country.

 

IIRC, you are a valuable contributor here. Vote with your feet (fingers, in this case), man. I haven't been there in ages.

 

They so do not deserve to be king of the hill. If it had to be CPF or no interesting flashlight forum, it would have to be no interesting flashlight forum for me. Happily, that's not the case. And, really, advanced flashlighting isn't all that important.

 

"Your usual preference is to portray yourself as a wise and knowledgeable older member, but on this showing, you are clearly not up to it. Your sneering and contemptuous personal attack on another member means the rest of us will now be able to enjoy a whole week free of further lofty pontification from you."

 It's amazing how people with personality disorders end up perfectly describing themselves when they attack/complain about others. The only difference is they're often in charge. DM51 is EVERYTHING he/she/it claims to hate.

- Circumcision, regardless gender, by definition causes sensation loss, and thereby usually causes difficulty later in life. Oppose amputation of children's genitals. ALL children. http://tinyurl.com/haszs6o

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i think we need a score board !!

how many times you have been banned from CPF , myself only once , i will post some unholy shit tonight : )  so i can catch up.

 

the best part,

rest of us will now be able to enjoy a whole week free of further lofty pontification from you

 

laff*

 


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df2dot wrote:

i think we need a score board !!

how many times you have been banned from CPF , myself only once , i will post some unholy shit tonight : )  so i can catch up.

 

I've been banned once... permanent Big Smile

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I've been banned twice. The last time DM51 made a remark in the Budget sub-forum disparaging budget lights and then when people got off topic he deleted a bunch of posts but left his post that caused everyone to go off topic. I simply posted "you forgot one".

In that case I knew it would get a reaction. I though maybe since I didn't post any more than that he might get the point without banning me. I was wrong. At least I did something in that case knowing that I could get banned since banning seems to be the option of first resort with that bunch.

This time I was initially jumped on by someone else and I didn't let it go. However the other person and I are fine I'm sure at this point (judging by the responses in our posts) so there is no problem. I wasn't trolling and was interested in that light.

Zenbaas and BRJones-well put.

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banned 1 time for stating too obvious in my signature that i like BLF :d

 

 
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brjones wrote:

Though people frequently get me wrong, few people in my life have ever misrepresented me so badly that I seriously thought about suing them for defamation of character or slander, or at least getting a lawyer to write a letter. DM51 has been one of them. Then I realized he/she/it was in another country.

I know what you mean, I got to that point on a local board once but the person had a change of heart and apologized to me in front of my friends (unasked) in a parking lot and I let it go.

The way to hit CPF would be to let all the companies buying banner ads on CPF know that we (and organized group) would not be buying their flashlights anymore unless they either disassociated themselves with CPF or CPF began to show some moderation with their moderation powers.

It's too much effort and won't be done but that's probably the best way to deal with CPF. Reason isn't an option with them.

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I hardly even go there anymore.  Not my type of runned forums.  I much rather be here and among a forum that is runned with dignity and respect and you are actually cared about. 

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F%^$ sake!

Now you know where to take your crazy low lumen ideas! You could start your own board that is somehow represented by something that has the power of one candle! Oh, wait, that's been done.

Seriously, I have no idea what they're coming to over there. They're gonna chase away anyone with a brain, and all that'll be left is the tumbleweeds and mods. 


 

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ruffles wrote:

Seriously, I have no idea what they're coming to over there. They're gonna chase away anyone with a brain, and all that'll be left is the tumbleweeds and mods. 

From a commercial point of view that could be very 'smart' :). Gold plated klarus, titanium bling bling... 

 

 
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Occupy CPF

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Herr Himmler and Der Fuhrer will not approve of that.

They approve of Syrian Government methods of dealing with dissent. 

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stevetexas wrote:

 

Herr Himmler and Der Fuhrer will not approve of that.

They approve of Syrian Government methods of dealing with dissent. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLry6Cn_D4

 

 
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Yikes, that is one scary response. It's one thing to get banned based on the mods opinion, it quite another thing when he lambasts you like that in a public forum. It's just bad form, but you can't argue with them, that's how it is there.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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My obligatory comment. ASS BAITER wahoooo. This needs to be a title at BLF for those of us that have been banned from CPF.
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you must be p%$#@! off at the condescending idiot, especially since he has the position of authority. try not to let it bug you, instead be proud that you got under the skin of a bunch of jerks. i really find it hard to stomach a whole lot of the dismissive, self righteous bs that i read on that forum, which is why i rarely go there anymore at all, and why i really like it here. a good amount of people here are really just online "buddies" if you will, chatting about a common interest, sharing stuff they know and learn, and not trying to be bullies. pretty cool, especially given that other option. if i were in your shoes, i know this is childish, but i would wait for my ban to be lifted, and then say something that would make it permanent.

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I've stopped going there at all. I spent many hours a day reading all of it a few years ago - but once they started shoving every thread on lights I was interested in into Jayki's thread which made it impossible to find anything in there as it was so massive, I gave up. I have had several logins there - I can not now be bothered creating a new one as it isn't worth the irritation that the mods there hand out.

Sociopaths make very, very poor moderators. Empath is a classic - the guy has less empathy than your average fencepost. And a comparable IQ. And don't get me started on DungMasticator51!

Then Jayki and Mr. Admin came along and made it all better. Sadly, Jayki's site now seems to be offline a lot.

 

And Mr. Admin has done a wonderful job here. For which I am hugely grateful.

 

I cannot say this often enough. Thank you Mr. Admin. You are doing a great job!

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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I´ve had : "If you can read this, you are in a wrong forum."

in my sig for a while. Waiting to get banned by some idiot to get the final excuse to give up reading at all that place.

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Don wrote:

I cannot say this often enough. Thank you Mr. Admin. You are doing a great job!

Here! Here!  *raises glass*
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Yes, all I can say is that being dealt with harshly there makes this place all the more appealing. Thanks Mr. Admin. indeed!

Regarding leaving a parting post of choice words...it is tempting but it doesn't hurt anyone but me. It doesn't really "hurt" me either but there are two issues. One, lowering myself to their standards doesn't say much about me Smile and two only a few people would read it before it was deleted and if I ever wanted to post again I'd have to go through all the crap involved with a new account over there.

Since you have to sign up separately for the Marketplace and CPF something I never did until recently I'm banned only (for the moment at least) at CPF. By the way, I've noticed that the Marketplace goes down even more frequently than CPF.

I just sent DM51 a PM via the Marketplace account pointing out the error of his ways and requesting that he reconsider the ban just out of the general principal of the thing. I pointed out that the person I was accused of being rude to has no issue with me. We've actually exchanged PM's (the other member and I) and communicated like most human being do and all is well. I pointed out that his (DM51) public remarks to me were ruder than what he was accusing me of.

So, he will either now ban me on the Marketplace, do nothing, or increase the ban in duration on CPF. At least I was civil to him, did have a chance to address what was going on, don't expect anything constructive to come from him but did at least get to comment which is the biggest problem with the whole CPF management "style". They can do whatever they want to and there is no recourse.

They blame it on being a big site and on trying to weed out spam but no one is complained about their anti-spam controls. They've just set themselves up to be able to be rude and not have to deal with any consequences from that.

I think the part that gets me a bit upset is the cowardly approach of banning someone so they can't match wits (I mean respond) and then they trash you in public and then admonish everyone who's still left to ..."let's get this back on track please" Smile Somehow it makes my skin crawl when those guys use the word "please". Smile

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Wish I could have seen what all the trouble was about. Kaichu certainly took offense in one post quickly for no apparent reason, but I guess everything else has been sanitized for our protection. I don't mind moderation and I know they want to keep things on topic and nip things in the bud before they get out of hand, but they're so freaking arrogant about it! There are no personal attacks allowed, but then the moderator goes and clearly makes a personal and very public attack against you?! It's pathetic.

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I think CPF is so terrible...

TBH, I dont like that forum

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Don wrote:

 

 

And Mr. Admin has done a wonderful job here. For which I am hugely grateful.

 

I cannot say this often enough. Thank you Mr. Admin. You are doing a great job!

I will put my 1000th post to good use in echoing Dons sentiments. Thank you Mr.Admin. for this great place.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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The CPF BICKERING SHIT is driving me away from this forum, many times I've seen guys here legitimately banned and they come here crying. Can't remember who it was, someone wit a vulgar avatar the other day. I didn't even know about CPF till I starting reading all the shit here.

Edit: I even notice one member here has his ban like a medal of honour in his signature, even though his ban ended months ago acording to his sig.

Please delete my account,  this forum is typical of the youth of today they don't care for rules or aurhority and will throw a tantrum any chance they get.

As Kestrel says above: if there is any more nonsense, this thread will be closed. 12 posts have been deleted. Two members locked themselves into a pointless squabble arising from a misunderstanding; then two other members joined in, quite unnecessarily. Three narrowly escaped corrective action; the fourth has been suspended. gcbryan, your post was pure trolling, with no other possible outcome than that of inflaming the squabble. Your usual preference is to portray yourself as a wise and knowledgeable older member, but on this showing, you are clearly not up to it. Your sneering and contemptuous personal attack on another member means the rest of us will now be able to enjoy a whole week free of further lofty pontification from you. Now… back on topic, please.

*I have reviewed all of the posts that were deleted from this thread and decided to unban gcbryan. I have made this decision because he was not the only one who posted unnecessary and inappropriate responses in this thread. Several of you should have been banned due to your behavior. In the interest of fairness, if one is to be banned then all should be banned. However seeing as how I *DO* believe most of you are capable of behaving as adults, I have decided not to do that. Two moderators had to step into this thread to get it back on track. You all know the rules of these forums and how you are expected to comport yourselves. You should not need to be reminded... but when you are, it should be heeded. Further rude, trollish and baiting behavior *WILL NOT* be tolerated... the bannings will begin until morale improves.

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Southern Aurora wrote:

The CPF BICKERING SHIT is driving me away from this forum, many times I've seen guys here legitimately banned and they come here crying. Can't remember who it was, someone wit a vulgar avatar the other day. I didn't even know about CPF till I starting reading all the shit here.

The thread title says it is another CPF post, so you can skip it if you want. If you're at CPF, you can't write about it, so this is really the only place to vent.

Nice that they have rescinded the ban on gcbryan, but of course they still haven't deleted the moderator's attack on him, calling him condescending and sneering.

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I just received an email from Greta with a link to the post mentioned above. I don't know if it was my PM to DM51 (I would imagine so) or whether Greta suddenly decided that my banning was unfair.

In true CPF fashion however they admit no mistake on their part and still leave the rude remarks made by DM51 toward me and she still gets in a little lecture to others involved.

The bottom line was that no moderation was ever needed.

I thanked her for the lifting of the ban but requested that she take another look at DM51's comments and I filled in a few facts that she may not be aware of.

Southern Aurora don't let threads like this drive you away from BLF. If you don't like threads talking about CPF don't read them. I don't entirely disagree with your remarks however if you are implying that I deserved to be banned then I will respectfully disagree with that.

I wouldn't agree however that anyone who decides to talk about CPF or any other topic in the Off-Topic Chatter forum is "crying" anymore than I would characterize your post as whining.

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a bizarre end to a bizarre incident.  

at the rate they're going, they won't have anyone but shills and newbies left to post.  they're chasing away a lot of members who contribute good content.

gcbryan wrote:

I just received an email from Greta with a link to the post mentioned above. I don't know if it was my PM to DM51 (I would imagine so) or whether Greta suddenly decided that my banning was unfair.

In true CPF fashion however they admit no mistake on their part and still leave the rude remarks made my DM51 toward me and she still gets in a little lecture to others involved.

The bottom line was that no moderation was ever needed.

Southern Aurora don't let threads like this drive you away from BLF. If you don't like threads talking about CPF don't read them. I don't entirely disagree with your remarks however if you are implying that I deserved to be banned then I will respectfully disagree with that.

I wouldn't agree however that anyone who decides to talk about CPF or any other topic in the Off-Topic Chatter forum is "crying" anymore than I would characterize your post as whining.

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Langcjl wrote:

Don wrote:

 

 

And Mr. Admin has done a wonderful job here. For which I am hugely grateful.

 

I cannot say this often enough. Thank you Mr. Admin. You are doing a great job!

I will put my 1000th post to good use in echoing Dons sentiments. Thank you Mr.Admin. for this great place.

Happy 1000th, buddy! It did not go unnoticed. Smile

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