Review: Crelant 7G5 from intl-outdoor [pics heavy, outdoor beamshots updated!]

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Review: Crelant 7G5 from intl-outdoor [pics heavy, outdoor beamshots updated!]

I must admit, that for a long time, I didn't wait with such anticipation for any flashlight...

It finally arrived. I guess I'm the first person outside Asia that owns this flashlight ...definitely the first person that shares some info and photos. Cool

So lets start from the beginning. It comes in a blister. Accesories are very ascetic. Spare rubber boot and spare o-rings. That's all. No fancy cards, manuals, lanyards, etc. Just a few pieces of spare rubber and flashlight.

Crelant 7G5 didn't dissapointed in workmanship quality. It's very well made, no ano missing, no scratches. Overall, nothing to complain about. Surface is matte HAIII. All thrads are square cut and all, apart from threads that join LED/circuit with battery tube, are anodized allowing tailcap lock-out. Threads, as you'll see at the photos came generously lubed. Overall, I'm impressed Laughing The quality is just as I expected. On par with Fenix and Thrunite.

The flashlight has extender, that allows to run from 2x18650. Without it, you have a short monster, that can be fed by 2x18500. Nice move, frankly, I like the short version better. More "wow" factor due to smaller dimesions and the same potential. Smile

Whatta heck Foot in Mouth I wrote earlier this part ...but it hasn't shown in the post. Ok I'll rewrite.. The circuit is not silent. It's not buzzing, but the sound is like whisper... or water flowing through the pipes. This is first time I hear that kind of noise from flashlight circuit. It's definitely not a high pitch whine from inductor, more like flowing water or wind in the trees ...or very silent jet engine (I'm not kidding). Interesting. Oh.. it's very silent only audible in a complete inaudible enviroment and flashlight close to ear so don't worry, it's totally undisturbing Wink.

UI is unfortunatelly crappy. At least for me. Seeing bare threads, I was hoping for mode changing by twisting the head (just like in Olight M31 Triton or Fenix TK30). Modes are changed by tailcap and since it's using forward clicky, you have to select your desired mode prior to "click". Otherwise, you have to make full turn-on/turn-off cycle to change mode. Luckily, there are only three modes - low, high and strobo and the light has memory. So cycling through the modes will be reduced - since it's pure thrower and should work mainly on high mode. Pity, we're losing momentary function... Oh, well, you can't have all.

Yes, this light is pure thrower. It has wide, deep and smooth reflector. In fact, it's the biggest reflector, I've seen in a regular flashlight with XM-L LED. Of course, I had to compare it to my "modded" Catapult V2.

...And it won Smile. The difference is not significant, but it's visible. The hotspot size is the same in both cases, but a little more intense in Crelant 7G5. I had no time (and I won't have in next days) to do a proper measurements, but I did a few quick tests, that can tell something about 7G5's potential.

The ceiling bounce is almost equal in both cases, with slight advanage to 7G5.

Cat V2 scored ~19.6 lux,

7G5 scored ~19.8 lux

 Tailcap current draw looks following:

Cat V2 - 1.95A

7G5 - 1.90A

Yep folks... your conclusion is correct. The LED in 7G5 is driven at 3.5A (or very close) Cool ....Not some wimpy 2.8A or 3.0A as seen from other well known manufacturers. And by the way, my Cat uses XM-L T6 from authorized CREE dealer, so the bin is certified. And the LED is sitting on a pure copper MCPCB with Arctic Silver 5 underneath. So it's tuned to the max.

Overall, from the first look, I'm impressed by this light. It's very well made, the workmanship is superb and the price is right. It can be fully disassembled, so it allows for future upgrades. The reflector is awesome. Deep as well and wide enough to turn XM-L into pure throwing machine.

When I have a time, probably next week, I'll do lux measurements and take some outdoor beamshots. This is all for now. Below some photos (sorry, not in order, I'm in hurry).


















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Update 6th Nov.

OK, as promised, some outdoor beamshots. The camera settings were following:

t=3.2s

f=4.5

iso=200

wb=daylight

I made photos in two locations. I made also some crops from original files, for better see the illuminated target. Enjoy ! Smile










The photos above are little underexposed. In reality, the lights were brighter. Also, take into account, that BD-4, while the weakest in throw here, is a dedicated thrower with over 35K lux/1m. It has far more throw than other popular flashlights, that are considered to throw quite well (Fenix TK35, Jetbeam BC40). If anyone wants to do animated gif, feel free Smile.



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Beautiful photos!

Thank coolperl, always a pleasure to see your reviews.

I see this can sure take all kind of battery combinations : 3 x CR123A  4 x CR123A  3 x 16340  2 x 18650  2 x 18500

Let me understand correctly, your Catapult V2 is modded by you? It's not stock?

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Thanks for kind words Smile

My Catapult is modded by me. It left factory as a standard Catapult V2 with SST-50 LED. I removed original LED and replaced it with XM-L T6 1C. This is more or less similiar to factory Catapult V2 XM-L, that were released in a small batch, prior to Catapult V3 ...but I feel better with certified T6 bin and thick copper MCPCB.

As for battery configurations, yes, this is all possible, but for 3xCR123A or 3x16340 the current draw is rather high (would exceed 2C for 16340). Personally, I'd stick to 2x18500 in short version. I have some old AW's 17500, that I use in Fenix TA30. When time allows, I'll make a runtime test on these. Smile

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According to Selfbuilt, Catapult V2 with the XM-L led does 46K compared to Catapult V3 also with the X-ML led that does 40K . His Catapult V2 with the SST-50 led does 26k. So it seems you have a great moded light.

I am under the impression that you have received this flashlight under 2 weeks, am I right?

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Thanks for all of this.  Nice pictures and great info.  I guess I'm going to have to take the plunge. 

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I didn't made measurements before/after mod, but it has gained definitely more throw. My readings are little less than Selfbuilt's for lights we both have ...so according to his light meter, my Catapult would be in 50K range... At least, I hope so Wink

 

As for the shipping, I placed the order on 22nd Oct (Saturday). I got shipping message on 24th or 25th Oct ...so yes, it was below two weeks. But it's nothing unusual, registered parcels sent from HK or China arrive to me within 6-10 calendar days. Rarely, I have to wait longer. Our post is quick, unless the parcel go to custom office. In this case, it's additional ~5 days. On the other hand, standard post without registering/tracking can take up to 1 month.

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Your pictures look really professional.

Here is a link to the shop an dthe light:

http://www.intl-outdoor.com/crelant-7g5-xml-u2-3-mode-860-lm-flashlight-...

Light up the darkness.

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That's cool.   Sealed  Surprised that the current draw is high (good!), can you do a confirming test against your Balder BD-4 with the same DMM and batteries?

Like this :   (1) Measure Crelant 7G5 current and (2) Measure BD-4 with same batteries / DMM immediately. This takes out any DMM/batteries/charge level variables

 

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Wow! Absolutely beautiful light! Smile

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08CivicSi wrote:

Wow! Absolutely beautiful light! Smile

It could do with some extra design on the tailcap and head.  The tailcap looks the same as some generic budgetlight and the head is like STL-V2/V6.  But well, it's not bad looking per se.... and the price is right.  (I mean you pay $20 less for no HA for the Sky Ray and PWM).

I guess this one has much better PWM? At least 1kHz?  (very nearly invisible even on ultra fast moving objects)

Look at the 7G2.  This is like WOW!

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Hey cool, if you don't mind me asking; do you use studio lights or what?  I want to take pictures like that and since I moved, I'm having a hard time finding good lighting like I had before.  Even my best pics are not as good as yours.

 

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2100, I'll take measurements, you ask for at the end of the day. Right now, I'm at work and don't have the stuff with me.

Foy, yes I use external flash (or two sometimes). It's not "studio" quality equipment, but it does the job. However, it's not a must for taking good photos. This guy makes also wonderful photos using a simple compact camera.

http://elemlampa.blog.hu/

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2100 wrote:

It could do with some extra design on the tailcap and head.  The tailcap looks the same as some generic budgetlight and the head is like STL-V2/V6.  But well, it's not bad looking per se.... and the price is right.  (I mean you pay 14,54 € less for no HA for the Sky Ray and PWM).

Where do you get this for $61? Because you can get Sky Ray for $41 :bigsmile:

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Well..MF is selling the Sky Ray i believe for $54, James got it at that price.   I got the FandyFire version from DX, $46.   $41 is the group deal from DX?

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2100 wrote:

Well..MF is selling the Sky Ray i believe for $54, James got it at that price.   I got the FandyFire version from DX, $46.   $41 is the group deal from DX?

You can get it now for $41.19 from DD.

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i like the catapult better... 

 

my catapult v3 will arrive sooon...

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harry25175 wrote:

i like the catapult better... 

 

my catapult v3 will arrive sooon...

You obviously have an unlimited budget. Smile When will your TM11 arrive?

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i have postponed buying tm11 after reading reviews on cpf.... i can assume 7 out of 10 tm11 owners are having some issues with their unit.

 

Instead, i just ordered sunwayman v60c, thrunite scorpion v2 and ultrafire wf-504B they will probably arrive by end of this month.

 

My catapult should arrive on monday..

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Coolperl, could you also do a ceiling bounce test of the 7G5 and the Balder BD-4?  This way i'll have all the info i'll need before ordering.   Smile 

I wonder how much is the Catapult V3 after discount.  It has NW too, but NW is a bit redundant for pure throwers.

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BLASPHEMY! NW is never redundant!

 

Anyway, thats one serious reflector setup there! look at the size of the image of the die, must be one tight hotspot!

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2100 wrote:

......, but NW is a bit redundant for pure throwers.

I think so too.

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OK folks ...I did some more measurements. Cool

2100, take out your wallet Laughing, ...as per request I did measurements of current once again, with the same batteries (AW 2200):

Balder BD-4: 1.65A

Thrunite Catapult: 2.05A*

Crelant 7G5: 1.9A

*- the current drawn by Catapult rises in time. It starts from low 1.9A values, and after a minute or so, it settles on 2.05A and remains stable. It seems that the circuit needs some time to reach full speed. (lol ).

Celining bounce test:

Fenix TK45: 20.3 lux

Balder BD-4: 19.3 lux

Thrunite Catapult: 20.5 lux / 21.7 lux*

Crelant 7G5: 20.9 lux

*- without stainless steel bezel

Now the best part. I made throw measurements. The measurements were calculated from 17.88m, so they are a bit higher than in my Balder BD-4 review (where they were taken from approx. 8m).

Fenix TK45: 10560 lux/1m

Balder BD-4: 37250 lux/1m

Thrunite Catapult: 47800 lux/1m

Crelant 7G5: 59100 lux/1m Surprised

I repeated measurements in two rounds to avoid errors or mistakes. They were taken after 1 minute from turn on. Catapult managed to reach its full speed, other lights stabilized their LED/MCPCB junction temperature, so these results were stable.

This is most amazing thrower in this size class Cool. If only UI would be more sensible.

ps. ...I almost forgot. PWM is not visible. If it's used, it's way above 5kHz, because this frequency I can detect by rapid waving. When waving 7G5 on low mode, I see just a smooth trace.

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Thanks again Coolperl. That is impressive!

Your "modded" Catapult V2 is better than the catapult V3.

 

Hey, why don't you update your first post with the new info?

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Really looking forward to some beamshots..! So Coolpert, you reckon this is worth the $78 then..? Big Smile

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Looks good.  Lets see if it can outthrow the DBS XR-E aspheric in the real world at a 400m target.  (better comparison than a lux meter)

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It's a great thrower, but there is poor chance it can beat XR-E with apheric. Tiablo apheric or DBS aspheric were in the 70K-80K lux/1m range (with R2 bin). What I'm sure, is that the beam from 7G5 is much more useful :).

As for outdoor beamshots, I'll try to make them tommorow evening. But no promise... Too many stuff on my head, lately.

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coolperl wrote:

It's a great thrower, but there is poor chance it can beat XR-E with apheric. Tiablo apheric or DBS aspheric were in the 70K-80K lux/1m range (with R2 bin). What I'm sure, is that the beam from 7G5 is much more useful :).

As for outdoor beamshots, I'll try to make them tommorow evening. But no promise... Too many stuff on my head, lately.

Well I am counting on you buddy.  This will help me make up my mind if I want this light over the Sunwayman T40CS.  I'm still leaning toward getting the Sunwayman anyway because it looks cool to me.  And it's got a big wide reflctor on it. 

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:

coolperl wrote:

It's a great thrower, but there is poor chance it can beat XR-E with apheric. Tiablo apheric or DBS aspheric were in the 70K-80K lux/1m range (with R2 bin). What I'm sure, is that the beam from 7G5 is much more useful :).

As for outdoor beamshots, I'll try to make them tommorow evening. But no promise... Too many stuff on my head, lately.

Well I am counting on you buddy.  This will help me make up my mind if I want this light over the Sunwayman T40CS.  I'm still leaning toward getting the Sunwayman anyway because it looks cool to me.  And it's got a big wide reflctor on it. 

I think the 7G5's reflector is bigger and deeper.

Anyway, Sunwayman T40CS is tough to beat.

The lux readings from the Crelant are phenomenal, yet no interest. Probably because it's neither a cheap or an expensive thrower. 

 

 

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Just received catapult V3

Excellent quality, flawless.....

Here are some photos, sorry for bad quality as i took them with my cell phone

  

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One thing about both Catapult V3 and 7G5 is that they are T-7075, not sure if that gives additional strength in real life.

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Man, I am jealous.  I really "need" a V3.  Quite simply; it seems like it's just a superb flashlight and it's what a high-end/high performance light should look like.

 

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