Decent Multiple AA Based Flooder. Is there one?

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Decent Multiple AA Based Flooder. Is there one?

Its easy to find a good AA keychain light or decent small or large AA based pocket light.  You can even find decent AA based throwers such as the MCU-C88 or Fenix Tk41.   But is there a truly high output AA based flooder?

What's the best we can come up with?

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I have a 4Sevens Quark X 2AA that has an xml LED and an OP reflector. That's the floodiest 2AA light I am aware of but it is not a budget light. I am not sure if there is a budget alternative to the Quark with xml and OP.

There is also the Fenix TK45. It uses 8 AAs. They use this light in alternate universes as seen on the tv show "Fringe". Wink It puts out about 600 lumens. It also is not a budget light.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?312135-Triple-head-LED-flashlight-on-Fringe

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That's what I was thinking.   Is there a budget alternative?

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Yeah the TK45 seems the best option, it was available for around $80 shipped on DD a while back I think.

 

Or the Balder 2x AA light, that uses XM-L and has a pretty small head so should be a real flooder too.

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Anything with xm-l will be floody

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jondotcom wrote:

Anything with xm-l will be floody

Really, my XML's aren't that floody, not compared to my zoomies, mag fusion or   UF-h3 for example

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jondotcom wrote:

Anything with xm-l will be floody

 

TK41? One of the most pencil beams out there..

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There's also the Olight S65 that's cheaper than the TK45 and give comparable amount of light, and the Olight S35 which is even cheaper and gives a lot of light also. Both Olights come with a diffuser and are floodier than the TK45 anyway, I think.

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I think the TK45 is floodier normally, but with the diffuser the S35/S65 would probably be floodier. Unfortunately they've both just jumped up in price on DD and so can't be had much (if any) cheaper than the TK45.

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Oh, and there's always the option for the DIY way with a Saik-305 (replace emitter, pill, driver, maybe lens, maybe reflector, fill hole in body) and a diffuser (or spraying the lens).

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Has Fenix brought out it 3xAA flood to throw type light yet? It was looking like one unique design. It was zooming with one reflector in another going front or rear of the bigger reflector.
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or any XM-L......driven at 14500......       whatever brand, what is brighter and wider?

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My Xeno e03 is a floody 1AA light. Edit: oh, you already mentioned Xeno. Couldn't see the title on my phone. Maybe a floody Zebralight? My h51 regular isn't much of a flooder though, but maybe 'f' version with a fogged lens.
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Sounds easy to do . 3 AAA 's  and an xml

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The old itp A6 Polestar is a pretty floody light.  It uses an MC-E emitter and 6xAAs in a battery carrier.  I have given several as gifts and they have held up really well.   3 brightness modes and strobe/SOS.   About 80 bucks, half the price of the closest competitor the TK40, except floodier.

 

Check the beam of the older TK40 as you can probably find it on sale.  Its well known for having a good balance between flood and throw.

Sides, you can always put a condom or something on the end of any throw light to diffuse it. Wink

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I've been searching for the same thing for so long.  I like my xeno e03, but want something that takes at least 6 regular AAs.

There's a thread on cpf about diffuser for tk41 - seems they've found one that works great and is a proper glass diffuser - for an olight I believe

eventually I'll probably go that route - but it costs so much!

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+1 for the A6 Polestar (Gawd, that sounds like a stripper name...)

 

I had mine up for sale, then realized there was nothing else like it around.  I'm keeping it.  Smile

The Olight S65 "baton" replaces the Polestar in their lineup - at a substantial price jump.

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I got the S65 Baton for under $60 shipped at dinodirect recently, I know the prices have increased a lot now but you could contact summer and suggest it as the next group buy if you really wanted it..

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How about in a 2xAA XM-L?  I just got my "Caveman" from Shiningbeam, and am very impressed with it.

No blinky modes, nice finish, about $43.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

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I read its more of a thrower?

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I read that as well, but I disagree; it has a typical XM-L-P60 kind of beam.

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Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

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Boaz wrote:

Sounds easy to do . 3 AAA 's  and an xml

No, I don't really think that's the easy way to make a Decent Multiple AA Based Flooder, do you?  Laughing

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VFMaddict wrote:

Boaz wrote:

Sounds easy to do . 3 AAA 's  and an xml

No, I don't really think that's the easy way to make a Decent Multiple AA Based Flooder, do you?  Laughing

OP might try using two (2) AA batteries in a flashlight that is labeled for AA or 14500...........xeno E03 with an extention.  I think it was on CPF and costs $500 tho.

 

Responding...well yeah, if it is on CPF, it always costs $500 or more for any

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Thx for the heads up on the S65 Olight.   I had noticed they have newer versions of the itp A1,2,3 but not the A6.    In fact the I6 which ought to have been the replacement was 1x18650/2CR123. 

So I guess the S65 must be it.

Seems a bit steep though...100 bucks?  Ouch.  The only major advantage I see is that it has a much better low (20 lumens), vs the MC-E which can't be driven that low.

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I received my Olight S65 yesterday, I think it is genuinely the best light I've ever owned; UI, quality of construction, efficiency, beam and tint are top notch.

 

It also comes with a free diffuser, this attaches easily and securely to the head and is made (I think) of ground UCL glass, it cuts hardly any light transmission. It gives a perfect floody beam, literally perfect, I can't describe how good and floody it is, and also makes the tint lean towards neutral white.

 

Without the diffuser it is a great pure white tint with a good even beam and a good thick hotspot which throws a long way (over 100m). A little less than my BC40 but significantly further than any of my P60 XM-Ls.

 

Overall I am blown away that I got this for Under $60, it seems well worth $100 to me if you have the money to spare and like to use eneloops. If it was labelled 'Surefire' which it looks like it could be at this quality level then it could well sell for upwards of $300.

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I now see S65 is $111 on DinoDirect. I have a $8 coupon from them. After $20 discount, do you think it is still a good buy for $85? (inc. $2 tracking) I know, my TK41 was $110 already. I gues this one is a bit more sizeable.

 

EDIT: Checked it again. It is $110 on EBay. Should I still wait for another discount season? Like Valentines or Chinese New Year?  

 

EDIT2: Missed the offer I guess. They are stocking them up. Like my BC40 was canceled today. 

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What about a SF l2r (2xAA) with an XM-L, P7, MCE, or SST-50 drop-in with an OP reflector and a low voltage driver swap? Any of the larger emitters in a P60 size OP reflector should make for some nice flood. Battery life is going to be crap but if the driver you choose has modes it might not be too bad on medium and low. Should be very budget friendly too.

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Tony Hanna wrote:

What about a SF l2r (2xAA) with an XM-L, P7, MCE, or SST-50 drop-in with an OP reflector and a low voltage driver swap? Any of the larger emitters in a P60 size OP reflector should make for some nice flood. Battery life is going to be crap but if the driver you choose has modes it might not be too bad on medium and low. Should be very budget friendly too.

The L2r isn't listed anymore is SF's site... I wonder why. (Maybe they're planning a 3xAA body like I asked them to?  )

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If you don't mind the bulky length, you can always use a Solar Force L2 body + 2 18650 extenders to make it a 4xAA light, or L2 + 1x18650 Extender + 1xCR123 Extender + spacer for 3xAA. Tried it and these both work well as a flashlight or a bat. Smile

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Owned one of these long before I had any ideas of (usefully) modifying a flashlight.  After a few of the leds went dark I took it apart and messed around with the board and some batteries until it went crackle, pop, smoke, fire.  yes, fire.  whoops.  anyway, now all I have left is the tail cap (no idea where the rest went).

I want to buy another.  Actually, if DX restocks the next size head down, it would be better for building a flooder...

http://www.harborfreight.com/6-3-4-quarter-inch-109-led-flashlight-98506...

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can you make the switch illuminate all the time... so that you could find it, say in your tent at night?

also, could you post a pic of it next to something common...like a soda can?

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