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lampliter wrote:
I use nutiva organic cold pressed hemp seed oil. Does not contain tetrahydracannibinol Davie I get mine from amazon.

Hemp oil does not necessarily contain CBD.

I’d be surprised if there is any amount of CBD worth noting in the “hemp” products sold on Amazon.

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Bloody druggies. of differing levels.

ME. I wear a 25? Fentanyl patch. Take Targin pills and used to carry Endone (morphine) in my pocket for when I do things.
To control the pain.
The gov’t has a name for us consistent medical drug users.

Arthritis.
My Missus 73 yesterday.
She has it in back, Hips, and knees.

The best thing we’ve found (for her) Is to keep moving. Heat packs to suit when sitting
and in bed.
and a 32deg 8×4 pool in back yard.

The look on her face after 10 min’s in there. Is a sight to behold.

PURE RELIEF…..

I had a stand alone SPA. under deck b4 the pool.
Temp,. set on 38deg.
That was a good cheaper version of relief for anybody
with Arthritis..

People should try one.
Reduces the drug dependency by around 70%.

Although. if you have it in my generation 78yrs.
The imminent coffin effect does a better job.
PERMANENT…. Pain relief. Yep? Chuckle.

WE ALL do it.

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I’ll second the 32 degree soak when possible . I soak my ankle every morning for 20 minutes in ice water. Saved me from arthroscopic surgery for 2 years so far. Ice packs on the hip aren’t effective but a total bath in ice water would be. It must hurt though to sit in such cold water. I know my foot gets mighty cold.

Used JointFlex today for the first time and it did help but it is too early to say for sure as I have good days and bad. Might just be a good day plus not much walking today.

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Being an Aussie, I’ll bet Macka17 meant 32°C. Wink

That’s about 90°F.

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klrman wrote:

Best way to stop  arthritis pain is to find a safe way to get the aluminum out of your joints.


By upgrading to titanium?!

While aluminum apparently may cause arthritis, it’s not the only cause.

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@Macka17:

Be very careful with those opiates.

It's too easy to get addicted, and overdose.

...

I used to have a massive amount of back pain.

I was put on several opiates, I took too many, and I suffered for months.

It was by far the worst experience in my life.

 

EDIT:

But, seriously, I could have died if the circumstances were just a little different, so I am glad to be alive and I am glad to be able to remember that horrible memory.  ;)

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penzy; yes, it does help; I did a lot of distance running and bicycling (about 15 miles per day on foot and about 60 miles per week on the bike), back in the day; my knees were blown out; the pain is not entirely gone but it is much less.

"The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.” ~ U.S. Senator William H. Borah (1865-1940) affectionately known as the "Lion of Idaho"

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You are not the first to call CBD, snake oil. But there is no denying it had worked for a lot of people, else how do you explain what is goin on. Also more than anything it is clear that the creams work for Arthiritis etc

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Now arthritis is a bit more complicated as not everyone has the same type of arthritis and often underlying causes are ignored by doctors until too late in life.
I do not see something that needs to taken on a daily base on EOD base as curing anything. It is still working like a pain killer.
However if it helps someone taking it daily or every other day then it helps them.

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I am open to arthritis help recommendations? CBD helps but some days are worse than others. Anyone have first hand experience with Cissus? I just stumbled upon it this week. Supposed to help with pain.

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What type of arthritis do you have?

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I have not been to a doctor about it yet . I am trying home remedies first. I have shoulder, hip, finger and ankle pain. My hip is the worst.

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These pains can also be because of vertebrae issue, it is quite common.
For arthritis you are looking at other factors that come into play, either immune system attacking the joints or cartilage issues degrading.

But those symptoms that you have can be even exist from nerves being pressed. Or can be that and a weak arthritis.
How curved or not your spine could tell or not tell you that much. Some people have apparently straight spines and have to have surgery because issues with vertebrae.
Yeah, some people with weight issues could have spine issues, but again people that have no weight issue at all, still have spine issues.

But yeah, it is generally better to go an visit a specialist, not for necessarily taking drugs they prescribe, just to have some diagnostics about you spine, tissues, bloodwork, etc.

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What type of specialist would be a good first visit? I hate getting sucked into the system. My small experience with health system was negative. I felt like a number.

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People on the internet cannot treat someone, they have no idea of age, weight, cardiac function, thyroid function, spine health, hepatic function, auto-immune diseases (which can basically trigger certain forms of arthtis). Most importantly they do not have the expertise.

For checking your spine and to get a diagnostic you would normally see an Orthoped. Again not necessary to get prescription, but to know what sort of issues are there at the base, is there arthritis or it is some spine issues? Or both . You would see a Rheumatologist for arthritis.

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Thanks for the advice. After this crisis is over I will see a doctor. I have exhausted most home remedies.

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pennzy wrote:
Thanks for the advice. After this crisis is over I will see a doctor. I have exhausted most home remedies.

Sure, no problem.

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i think it ‘helps’ things that are chronic, have no real test, and may vary constantly anyway

sleep issues
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I bought a bottle of CBD isolate already mixed into PG (propylene glycol) and can use it in normal ecig/vape untis that I already use as a cigarette replacement. CBD is EXTREMELY cheap this way, and although it’s been overhyped whenever my stomach issues flare up it can help and it sure doesn’t hurt for random headaches, insomnia, etc.

“Nicotine River” has been my go-to for making my own e-cig juice and that’s where I got the isolate from.

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I have a number of lower back issues and have been going for various nerve blocks /epidurals and been on a few different pain meds like codone.
Recently found ‘Kratom’ and tried it, to my surprise it works better than other things i’ve tried and it doesn’t make you drowsy/dopey(as long as you don’t take a lot).
It’s kind of in a gray area, usa tried to schedule it but it was dropped and only illegal in a couple states/counties.
It’s cheapest in powder form but mildly bitter to take straight. People use it for withdrawal from harder opiates as it acts on same receptors.
Some local vape stores/head shops might sell it but they will charge a premium.

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Hello penzy. I have major nerve root damage from a bad back surgery 12 years ago. Intense and permanent pain was the result. When faced with that a person will try anything to mitigate the pain, and I have. About five years ago I tried adding CBD to the arsenal. It works for me. The effect is subtle but there. Will it work for someone else? Trial and error is the only way to find out. Maybe you spend a hundred bucks doing so. Given the expense it’s worth finding a reliable source. In my case it was about three weeks of using CBD before I felt any difference. Alternatively, opiates will get the job done in minutes, which is why they are so used and abused.

I went through many suppliers before settling on one outfit. This one has verifiable third party testing and sources their ingredients from equally reliable suppliers. They also provide links to information about CBD, and are happy to honestly answers questions.

CBD
If the link isn’t blue, it’s Bluebird Botanicals out of Colorado.

So there you go, a testimonial and a source. Maybe it will help. Hell getting old huh?

As a side note, my wife years ago got a gadget for horse problems. It has a number of red(ish) led’s of different wavelengths, and the head is placed directly on the problem area. Promotes blood flow to the area I’m guessing. I asked the guy who makes it if it would work on people. He says, “oh yes,” and gave me the setting and times for human joints.” It works good for joint pain for both of us and we use it on us as well as horses. If interested I’ll shoot a pic and provide some information. I recall it costing $500 or so. Vets all have these in their truck.

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Thanks both for giving your inputs. Right now I’ve been trying Voltaren for a couple months. Hard to say if it works better than CBD rubs since I also lost some weight and I am more active in the summer. I think weight loss is probably the best thing for my hip. If I can lose 10 more pounds it would be helpful. Arnica rubs are also in my rotation, mainly for sleeping.

Never heard of Kratom before. I will have to look into it. The horse gadget sounds interesting but a bit pricey for experimenting. I doubt insurance would cover it.

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My wife and I both tried CBD oil for a month, for our aging creaky joints when it became legal and properly produced in Canada. Neither of us experienced any effect whatever.

“Your mileage might vary” as they say, but we felt it was a waste of money. It tastes kind of disgusting to boot.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
My wife and I both tried it for our aging creaky joints when it became legal and properly produced in Canada. Neither of us experienced any effect whatever.

“Your mileage might vary” as they say, but we felt it was a waste of money. It tastes kind of disgusting to boot.


Are you talking about Kratom or CBG?

Ok, I see you were referring to CBD. I tried the rub and the gummies. Both gave some relief. The gummies tasted ok. Price should be dropping on these products as they become more common. Same with Voltaren.

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pennzy wrote:
Tumbleweed48 wrote:
My wife and I both tried it for our aging creaky joints when it became legal and properly produced in Canada. Neither of us experienced any effect whatever.

“Your mileage might vary” as they say, but we felt it was a waste of money. It tastes kind of disgusting to boot.


Are you talking about Kratom or CBG?

I have no idea – it’s labelled Edison Cannabis Co. / CBD Oil / 10.1 mg/ml. in sunflower carrier oil.
There’s still a part bottle left; we both gave up on it.

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I’ve looked into CBD oil, as I have severe arthritis problems, and have had surgery on my spine for nerve pain caused by a herniated disc. There are no human studies showing CBD oil is safe and effective for treating arthritis pain. There are studies underway, but there are several reasons why nobody should begin using CBD oil without consulting a qualified health professional and reviewing their entire medical condition, and the medications they are taking.

The Arthritis Foundation cautions against using CBD oil if you also take naproxen, or Celebrex, or other arthritis medications they list on their website. In addition, it is not safe to consume if you are taking many commonly-prescribed medications used to treat clinical depression.

CBD oil derived from plants containing more than 0.3% THC is still a Schedule I drug, according to the FDA – even if there is no THC in the CBD oil product. And the FDA still has not approved of the use of CBD for medicinal use, or for eating or drinking – so it is illegal on the federal level. That’s why it is illegal in the USA for CBD product sellers to make health claims for the products. In 2018, the FDA issued a statement saying that CBD products approved by the FDA and containing less than 0.1% THC were Schedule V drugs. However, the FDA has approved only one product containing CBD for that drug schedule – a product for treatment of epilepsy. Other CBD products are therefore technically still illegal under federal law.

In the states, regulation of CBD oil is done on a state-by-state basis, and the rules differ. In addition, some people who have been subject to drug tests by their employers have lost their jobs due to testing positive for THC, after taking CBD oil that had very small amounts of THC in it.

There is a problem with getting a consistent dose of the cannabidiol, without too much THC, in any particular product. Lab testing has shown that, even within a particular brand of CBD oil, the amount of cannabidiol sample to sample has a wide variation that can make a significant difference in how much of the active ingredient you are consuming. There are no industry standards or laws about how much cannabidiol has to be in the products, and production apparently isn’t consistent enough to ensure a consistent product quality. The amount of THC in the products also varies greatly.

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There's going to be a new research lab (near where I live) that will deal with cannabis medication:

https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2020/08/17/new-research-lab-in-desert-hot-springs-will-deal-with-cannabis-medicine/

It looks very promising to me.

I hope that they can help a lot of people.  :-)

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https://www.voltarengel.com/samples-and-coupons

CBD didn’t work for me.

this is what works wonders every time:
free Voltaren samples:

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Go to this forum and post your question.
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https://forum.veritashealth.com/categories/arthritis-osteoarthritis
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Hemp oil is useless. If you want the real CBD in high concentration, you will need to grow the marijuana/cannabis yourself and extract the oil.
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Here are the type of seeds you will need to order.
https://www.greenentrepreneur.com/article/339298
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Don’t waste time buying products already being sold, they are weak.
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Of course, this is not legal in most states, so you will need to research many things first.

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