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Teaser XML-3 Coming 5A rated

For those that love the XML, XML3 is coming…… rated to 5Amp
XM-L3 is 100 lm brighter than SST-40 at 5A


it will have the Cree Logo on the package for those Fake Awareness lovers
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Interesting welight !
That makes the SST40 already outdated.

Hopefully it won’t be the CREE rainbow, and it has some good bins and high CRI options!
Let’s wait for some TexasAce Death tests Smile

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Finally some exciting stuff!

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Fantastic news – have been waiting for a new 5050.

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Now I have a good excuse to buy a new light.

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Again these yellow LEDs… If there’ll be a rainbow like xp-g3 or xhp**.2 then sst40 and luxeon v will still be the favorite

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Bond wires on top so not a flip-chip design? (So possibly less Cree rainbow than XP-G3 etc)

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Any idea of when they’ll be available?

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Yeah, doesn’t look like a flip chip, so it should throw nicely and has little rainbow. Smile
Quite exciting. Smile
I hope they will produce high CRI variants as well. Smile

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Cool Nice that Cree is still developing new leds. And indeed lets hope for no rainbow. And easy dedoming.
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Good points, high CRI with easy dedome? Yes please! Especially if it can be overdriven.

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Yes, high cri for the olight xml tirs please.

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Marc E wrote:
Good points, high CRI with easy dedome? Yes please! Especially if it can be overdriven.

It should be! Cree’s XML2 official ratings are 3A, they survive until 6A or so
Since XML3 rumours are rated at 5A, this sounds as great news.

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Interesting. That it’s rated brighter than SST40 is promising. But I wonder about its Vf. If it’s higher like other older gen Cree we won’t typically push much current through it. And with the bond wires there tends to be a not very high current limit (~8.5A for SST40, 5A for some earlier XML2s) so that will be interesting to see.

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
Again these yellow LEDs… If there’ll be a rainbow like xp-g3 or xhp**.2 then sst40 and luxeon v will still be the favorite

My concern as well.

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finally, a new version of XM-L led

the yellow is lighter compared with other Flip chip LEDs of cree, so this will be interesting
edit: i can see 2 electrical wires, so it may not use Flip chip design

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avail samples perhaps Dec 2019
vf quoted as 2.82 at 700ma
1513 Lumens at 5Amp
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SSt-40 is at 1703 lumens at 5 amps according to datasheet.

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Omega_17 wrote:
SSt-40 is at 1703 lumens at 5 amps according to datasheet.

dont see P2 bin in their list of actual avail part numbers, is P2 out there? Cree data is based on side by side steady state test of SST-40 N5 bin next to XML3 U4 bin

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SST-40 is in N4 and N5 available
so 1503-1603lm 85°C 5A

the question is how much current those bond wires take

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About time Big Smile

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Interesting news. Would be good to see document as well.
No flip chip is also welcome (I hate ‘Cree rainbow’).

Also, sometimes in the future, Cree should also make a domeless 5050 LED as well, there could be long lines forming for that.

Some bottom lines:
Cree should really improve its CRI classes, instead of ‘min 0 typ 68’, ‘min 70’, ‘min 80’, ‘min 90’, they should use ‘min 80’, ‘min 90’ and ‘min 95’ – under CRI 80 it is only garbage.

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adam7027 wrote:

Cree should really improve its CRI classes, instead of 'min 0 typ 68', 'min 70', 'min 80', 'min 90', they should use 'min 80', 'min 90' and 'min 95' - under CRI 80 it is only garbage.

Waste no time LOL my friend, send 'em a suggestion so we can all enjoy the improvements ASAP. 

It would also help more than a lot if people were to stop buying Big Smile “garbage” low-CRI led emitters, like me and others do. And while we're not the only customers, this is no license to get off  our donkeys. Innocent 

 

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Similar Vf, similar output it seems. Tests will tell which is better. Cree is likely to offer CRI 68-70-80-90 while Luminus has 70 and prepares 95.
Cree is likely to offer many CCTs while Luminus is cool only and CRI 95 will be warm only, at least initially.
Any hints on die size?
I wonder how’s beam greenness…

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All my Olights are waiting patiently for some high CRI goodness from either Cree or Luminus…

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Barkuti wrote:

It would also help more than a lot if people were to stop buying Big Smile “garbage” low-CRI led emitters, like me and others do.


You honestly think they would make changes if a few enthusiasts stopped buying a few led’s? They literally wouldn’t even notice…

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Any info on these yet ?

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Wow, back to the old style?

The picture looks all yellow, but you can see the sides of the die, so there’s apparently no phosphor covering the whole thing.
Just seems the picture is all yellow (even the dome).
…or did they just adapt a picture of an XM-L2 ?

I hope they will use beefed up bond wires.
You can see in the tests that LEDs with bond wires increase in Vf when you push them hard.

Hopefully there will be an XP-G sized “new old style” one in the planning too !

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Jerommel wrote:

…or did they just adapt a picture of an XM-L2 ?

You’re right. Facepalm

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Ah… Facepalm

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any update?

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