What is it about right angle flashlights?

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What is it about right angle flashlights?

Is it just me or has their utility been largely understated? I can still remember my first right angle flashlight.

https://www.earlytelevision.org/zenith_flashmatic.html

It was so cool to point and click and have it turn a knob on the TV for me! What a different world. I remember wanting the BSA logo version of the military one when I was a scout. Don’t remember getting one.

When I joined here about 8 years ago I just remember thinking that the ones I saw looked odd and I couldn’t see any need for one when there were so many other cool lights. Went through the AA, 14500 pocket rockets of the day. Got some 18650 tube lights of various flavors and a AAA twisty for my pocket. Lastly I found some C8s and figured I was pretty well set. A couple of years ago I dropped back in for some recommendations to replace a lost C8 and discovered Biscotti and the Convoy sliver C8 – life was good.

Recently I just wanted a decent headlamp for walking the dogs and ended up ordering a TH20 and a Tierra. The TH20 arrived and I put a clip on it and could not believe how much I like this concept that I had mostly ignored. WOW! How incredibly useful this format is! While I have lights that can clip in a pocket or clip onto a hat brim now I have something that I can clip to my shirt or jacket and have fantastic hands free light! Still easily pocketable clipped or deep carry, lite and unobtrusive. If I want to light a room, it takes tail standing to the next level as it can easily be aimed to provide great bounce without blinding you if you look that way. For most everything that I use a flashlight for this format is actually way better than the normal flashlight. Why does it appear to be a second class citizen in flashlight world? (Granted I still am likely to have a C8 in my coat pocket for when I want something other than flood.)

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I’m new to fancy flashlights, but I had exactly the same question. Right angle lights seem so much more practical and I wondered why they’re not more recommended and popular.

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I usually get one when i see on! Big Smile

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I’ve actually kinda changed my mind on them because they’re so much harder to hold in my mouth and I never have the headband around when I need hands-free.

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I’ve actually kinda changed my mind on them because they’re so much harder to hold in my mouth and I never have the headband around when I need hands-free.

Just the opposite for me. I used to use a flashlight in my mouth. With this, I just clip it to my jacket or shirt. No need for headband or mouth holding.

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I think it’s mostly legacy. Right angle flashlights were never small, taking “C” sized cells. In the miniature world of LED, suddenly the right angle light has an obvious place as a headlamp. And then 18650 sized ones were made where emitter is offset to one end, and now it’s easily handheld. I like it, because tail standing is more useful as a task light, as traditional cylindrical lights point upward. That’s fine for room illumination, but not tasks.

I have the Thrunite TH20 and really like it, especially after changing the emitter (now nicely warm). I’ve used it with the headband and also stand-alone. What clip did you find that fits it well?

For really small task work, I prefer the traditional cylinder. My Jetbeam Jet-U can be held clamped by my lips and easily directed where I need it, when requiring hands free for a short while. Of course, this can also work well when clipped to the brim of a cap.

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I love them because they can just be clipped on your belt and light everything in front of you. The only issue is that they can’t throw far

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JiggyJinjo wrote:
I love them because they can just be clipped on your belt and light everything in front of you. The only issue is that they can’t throw far
Really? Check out the Skilhunt H04. 1200 lumens. 145 meters. I… think that’s throwing pretty far. Wink
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I love them because they can just be clipped on your belt and light everything in front of you. The only issue is that they can’t throw far
Really? Check out the Skilhunt H04. 1200 lumens. 145 meters. I… think that’s throwing pretty far. Wink

Nice, I thought the tiny head would make throwyness really bad. Doesn’t it make the beam tighter than normal throwers ?

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The clip I found was one that I got from the Fenix store 8 years ago. Works perfectly as the top of the clip lines up with the top of the light. Will post some pics with measurements when I get a chance.

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Only right angle light I have is a streamlight survivor that is fire dept issued. It’s a thrower.

https://www.streamlight.com/en/products/detail/index/survivor-low-profil...

Frankly I still don’t much care for right angle lights.

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JiggyJinjo wrote:
Nice, I thought the tiny head would make throwyness really bad. Doesn’t it make the beam tighter than normal throwers ?
It’s all about the reflector, coupled with the emitter. In this case, you have a choice of clear or pebbled optics. I went with pebbled and it’s great. “Throw” is a nebulous term, out of context. I look at it more like short, medium, and long range. For headlamps, you want short and medium. But, you can still find long throwers too.

Keep in mind that with headlamps, the most common task is near field illumination. And you’ll want area flooding for best usage. Then use a handheld for more focused work. Also check out Nitecore’s offerings.

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The clip I found was one that I got from the Fenix store 8 years ago. Works perfectly as the top of the clip lines up with the top of the light. Will post some pics with measurements when I get a chance.
I have several Fenix lights, the widest being a PD30. But the diameter is still a little more narrow than the TH20, so the clip is too tight to fit (don’t want to force it and risk stripping of anodizing).
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I’ve actually kinda changed my mind on them because they’re so much harder to hold in my mouth and I never have the headband around when I need hands-free.

Just the opposite for me. I used to use a flashlight in my mouth. With this, I just clip it to my jacket or shirt. No need for headband or mouth holding.

Yeah I’ve done that before too, but its usually up close/in small spaces that I need to use it and aiming it while clipped on is tough.

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JiggyJinjo wrote:
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JiggyJinjo wrote:
I love them because they can just be clipped on your belt and light everything in front of you. The only issue is that they can’t throw far
Really? Check out the Skilhunt H04. 1200 lumens. 145 meters. I… think that’s throwing pretty far. Wink

Nice, I thought the tiny head would make throwyness really bad.

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Doesn’t it make the beam tighter than normal throwers ?
No.
For a tight beam you need a large optic.
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Did you all see Skilhunt uglied up the H03 ?
It’s called H04 now and it really looks disappointing..

I like angle lights too, by the way.
I have several Skilhunts, the Nitecore H30 (or what’s it called) and some others.
But i never use them as headlamps.

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I have this guy:

and it’s one of my favorite lights. Olight’s build quality is impeccable, and it’s a tiny right-angle light so it’s super useful.

The only right-angle light I use more is a AA Zebralight and this light:

I only use the Harbor Freight light more as it’s a lot better for automotive work, and I don’t care if it gets scratched.

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I always carry an angle light in my maxpedition pocket organizer, it’s very handy when you have to do anything.

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Jerommel wrote:
Did you all see Skilhunt uglied up the H03 ?
It’s called H04 now and it really looks disappointing..

Indeed.
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i’ve never had one, but i also cannot imagine how i would use it.

maybe it would be useful 1% of the time.

but that would never make me carry 2 lights around.

at best i would use it at home – but i would have to go get it, which means most of those times i wouldn’t.

at home, i could also have a regular light fastened to some small camera tripod for the 2 times a month i might use it.

so i don’t get it

if i got one for free, fine, but i would not buy one or carry it around if i had it.

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Jerommel wrote:
Did you all see Skilhunt uglied up the H03 ?
It’s called H04 now and it really looks disappointing..

I like angle lights too, by the way.
I have several Skilhunts, the Nitecore H30 (or what’s it called) and some others.
But i never use them as headlamps.

I have the H03 and really like it. Just a glance look at H04, I didn’t notice much of a difference. What is so tremendously disappointing about it?
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keithd wrote:
I have this guy:

and it’s one of my favorite lights. Olight’s build quality is impeccable, and it’s a tiny right-angle light so it’s super useful.
I just wish a warmer tint LED was available. Olight is so mainstream now, they’re not doing much to appease the flashlight enthusiast.

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The only right-angle light I use more is a AA Zebralight and this light:

I only use the Harbor Freight light more as it’s a lot better for automotive work, and I don’t care if it gets scratched.
I have that one too, an earlier release made of ABS plastic. It’s terrific. I also have the larger metal one labeled “QUANTUM” sold @ Harbor Freight, which is nice, but not as versatile as the folding work light.
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Was the emitter change difficult? I might consider that.

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I also have the Streamlight survivor Smokecutter issued to me, very throwy but not much spill, almost annoying. I find myself carrying the legacy incandescent one for more spill also on my turnout gear. But as right angle lights go they are super handy, durable, although larger than the headlamp ones now available. My original Smokecutter got snagged off my gear and was in a burning structure for several hours and still functions. Had to replace the battery pack but how many Skillhunts or other brands can say that? Streamlight did their research with these lights.

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I have several Fenix lights, the widest being a PD30. But the diameter is still a little more narrow than the TH20, so the clip is too tight to fit (don’t want to force it and risk stripping of anodizing).

So far my anodizing has held up fine from the clip. Couple of nicks from drops though. FWIW, I don’t really care as it is a tool first. Hope these pics will help in a search for a clip that will work for you.

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^ Thanks for the measurements! Thumbs Up

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Have recently really gotten into right angle lights. A couple months ago had none, now two, and two more on the way. The mostly end up getting clipped to a shirt pocket, backpack strap, or belt.

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New Armytek Zippy is an interesting budget solution to hands free lighting. Clips to shirt pocket and even button strip as it’s lightweight. Terrible color and beam, tho.

xevious wrote:
keithd wrote:
I have this guy:

and it’s one of my favorite lights. Olight’s build quality is impeccable, and it’s a tiny right-angle light so it’s super useful.
I just wish a warmer tint LED was available. Olight is so mainstream now, they’re not doing much to appease the flashlight enthusiast.

The NW Nova must be about 5000K. Not warm, but also no greenish tint. Like it very much. Got one just to have an angled light with clip (use Armyteks Wizard and Tiara for running).

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I only use my Armytek wizard pro now

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