Please compare: 52mm drop-ins at DX or something else for old D mag

Hi all,

I stumbled upon XM-L T6 3-LED 5-Modes 1800LM Smooth Aluminum Drop-in LED Module w/ Temperature Control:

sku: 114013

Has anyone tried it out? I think it appeared on DX only recently.

I'll order a drop-in for my dad's old maglite 4D and if all goes well, I might order one for my even older Maglite 5D. Originally i thought Ill order the 5x Cree R2, but now that there is a bigger choice...

Any experiences you guys have would be quite nice. Beamshots comparing these even better!

5x Cree R2, sku: 35241

1x XML T6, sku: 58481

3x XML T6, sku: 114013

There's also:

1x Cree P4-WC, sku: 26127

But I'm guessing this one is run over by time?

Oh, yes, before ordering I'll check the drop-in voltage and eliminate those that are out of spec, etc.

Well, if anyone has any other drop-in that might be better than these, please, chime in!

And thanks for the suggestions! ;)

Viktor

Hah, of course, now I find the other article about the drop-in...

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/5909

Well, the original questions still remain.

Beamshots, pros, cons, etc.

Best choice so far looks like: 3x XLM be for my 5D if I mod it to li-ions, 5x R2 for his 4D left on Ds.

Viktor

It's a pain to get those drop-ins machined down to fit in a mag; it's not a direct fit. You will have your work cut out for you...

And I'm not sure about that 3x XM-L drop-in from DX; just look at the emitter centering in their pics...

Ouch!

I haven't looked so closely, eww.

Actually, the 3 XML drop in might be easier to fit, it's actually a tad smaller than the 5 R2.

I'm not so worried about machining those down, my father has a small workshop, modding this will be a piece of cake for him. Aaand it will be fun, keep him busy, etc. ;)

Anyone got anything to contribute? Beamshot comparison? A better suggestion?

If the single xm-l dropin has the same reflector as this (looks the same), then I have some pics what could be interesting for you.

52mm drop-in xm-l vs UF C8xm-l

almost the same spot intensity, 52mm drop-in has a wider spill border

what I noticed, deeper the reflector whiter the spot, so because the 52mm drop-in isn't so deep, the spot become yellower (or warmer)

C8 xm-l vs 5xQ5 drop-in vs 52mm drop-in xm-l

outdoor pics:

mouse out 52mm drop-in xm-l

mouse over C8 xm-l

Thanks for the beamshots!

XMLs are quite similar, the wider spill I consider to be good.

Can you perhaps do a mouseover for the xml dropin vs 5xQ5?

Thanks again! :)

Viktor

I dropped that single XM-L into a Maglite with (2) 18650's and I like it a lot. I haven't posted anything on it yet nor a beamshot. Grinding it down to fit was fairly easy. Wiring up the ground was a bit more of a challenge. I modded the tailcap to sink the battery spring down and that took some work, but it wasn't bad. I recommend having a dremel type rotary tool handy with wire wheels.

-Garry

For my dad, no 18650s, by his own words, he's not responsible nor disciplined enough to use them. And we did have a conversation about them.

As far as I'm concerned (and my Mag 5D) I have no idea if it's worth to invest so much money and time into it. I'm quite occupied at the moment and don't have enough time as I'd like, so it might be I'll just install a drop in as well and use D batteries.

Unless someone can convince me that 18650s are going to make a significant difference... :)

Anyone know a good comparison between Ds and 18650s?

Is it even worth to use these dropins on either D cells or D rechargables?

Viktor

To me, the biggest reason for using Li-ion is the voltage factor. You can do the same (voltage) with one Li-ion, where it would take 3 (AAA, AA, C or D) batteries to do the same. In other words Li-ion 3.7vdc, Alkaline 1.5vdc, NiMH 1.2vdc. So many times voltage and space requirements make Li-ion the "easiest way" for people.

I am like your father, I am not responsible or disciplined enough to want to ever touch Li-ion, but for many, many people, it's the way to go, as seen by the amount of flashlights out there using li-ion versus Alkaline or NiMH.

I've found more drop-ins that would fit mag host.

6xQ5 blinky

5xR2 blinky and non blinky

Also a 5xQ5 at MF.

Considering they are all cheaper than DX 5xQ5, I'm leaning toward them. Maybe even 6xQ5, but the lowest voltage isn't specified. I need min voltage close to 4V. MF also has no low voltage specs.

Is temperature an issue with these? More leds = more heat. Perhaps 5xR2 is a better choice?

First Maglite 4D mod complete! :D

I posted a nice pictorial and howto in another post:

Thank you all for your help and suggestions!

Viktor