What type of light would you like the next BLF Special Edition to be? As in developed by us over a year or so from scratch.... like it used to be

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The original BLF Q8 was a fantastic light – tripod mount, good heat handling, good neutral tint, and Narsil UI allowing ramping or choice of 12 stepped modes.

Everything since has been a step backwards.

Yeh. All it needed was charging and it would’ve been ideal. Needing to break out a 4-bay charger each time, then having to screw with the dinky O-ring that did what it could to try to escape every time it needed to be opened’n‘closed, was the biggest pain in the ass.

That inconvenience is why I switched to a DC7 as my go-to big donk. Cooler and throwier vs warmer and floodier as I like, and a dumbed-down UI vs Narsim, yet being able to charge all 4 cells in situ is what wins out.

And I get the feeling any “Q8 Pro” will still have the cooler/throwier setup vs the original, and probably an overloaded UI.


Agreed about the charging – if Sofirn is indeed launching a Q8 Pro with 4x XHP50.2 3V and built-in USB-C charging, my Supfire M6 with three XHP50.2 3V and no charging is toast!

Maybe that’s why I woke up in the middle of the night recently and drew this on my phone before going back to sleep?

It’s a plan to add usb charging into the tailcap of my M6. Opening it and charging all four cells sucks, especially since it has a retaining ring rather than screws holding the driver in, and it tends to loosen slightly when opened. If I forget to re-tighten, it does all sorts of funny things with an unstable ground connection.

The idea is: drill a hole in the center of the tail PCB. Run a wire up to the positive end and put an upside-down spring on it (narrow end facing the tail) to contact the battery + contact on the driver. To hold the wire I was thinking some sort of plastic tube, similar to a pen’s ink tube. Negative is obviously easily available on the tail board. Then I find a way to mount (glue? epoxy?) the darn thing and USB-C charging’s my uncle.

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How about something with some kind of remote control. Wireless preferably. Bluetooth maybe? The internet of things (IOT) seems to be a popular subject. That could spill into a whole new realm of possible uses.

For instance; Have you ever been working on something and set your light down turned off and then spent 10 minutes trying to find it? If you didnt do the same thing with your keys then a keychain remote to send a signal for a blink or two would be nice.

Just one example.

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trigger619 wrote:
Powerful right angle headlamp like the size of the fw3a

Basically, this is the Lumintop HL3A
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Tally-ho wrote:
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Powerful right angle headlamp like the size of the fw3a
Basically, this is the Lumintop HL3A

It doesn’t get much more powerful then the PL47 at 4500lm and its small at 89mm tall. the FW3A is 92.5mm tall

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Majoroverkill wrote:
It doesn’t get much more powerful then the PL47 at 4500lm and its small at 89mm tall. the FW3A is 92.5mm tall

If you’re chasing millimeters, you should note than the PL47 is larger but trigger619 asked for a “right angle headlamp like the size of the fw3a” which for me implicitly means 18650, not 21700.
But anyway, 4500 lumens is way too powerful for a headlamp of the size of the PL47/FW3A in my book. I’m so tired of the “pocket rocket” recent trend, with more an more people taking the turbo output as some sort of reference. For me both headlamps are not 4500 lumens headlamps. Expecting more lumens from a headlamp of that size…really ?
But forget it, it’s just my opinion and I’m not here to decide what people should want.
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As a few others have mentioned a well designed, slim & rugged AA/14500 light focused on EDC would be wonderful. A light where the clip & ergos get as much attention as the emitter.

I would also like to see a modern take on the emergency beacon/signal light. Something that fall into roughly the same form factor as the lowly chemlight. Multiple colored emitters, possibly including IR. Indestructible (ish).

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Kindle wrote:
As a few others have mentioned a well designed, slim & rugged AA/14500 light focused on EDC would be wonderful. A light where the clip & ergos get as much attention as the emitter.

^^^ Sounds perfect to me! AA/14500 is hard to beat for its balance between battery life, potential power/output, and form factor.

I also like the idea of a BLF Special Edition keychain light. We already made the biggest flashlight in the world, now let’s make the small(est) one! Big Smile

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I voted for a BLF headlamp, but what I would really like to see is something completely different.

A BODYlamp…

Multiple led (high CRI)

Puck light with aluminum heatsink around the circumference (2” diameter?)

TIR optic

Able to be worn on a strap/backpack harness/belt/maybe across the chest, (think Iron Man)…

Separate wired battery pack for extended run time.

Too far out?

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I’d love to see an EDC zoomie.

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Agro wrote:
I’d love to see an EDC zoomie.

Caleb wrote:

A BODYlamp…

sb56637 wrote:
We already made the biggest flashlight in the world, now let’s make the small(est) one! Big Smile

IAW: Something useful. We can really only have one? Wink

Another headlamp … Tired

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I’d like to see a 5A single AA (Eneloop only, no 14500 Li-ion support) flashlight, aluminum host, black ano., diamond knurling, tailstanding forward tail clicky with rubber boot, 1-inch diameter female head with plain bezel (no crenellations or scallops), 3 modes, 5Lm, 50Lm, 500Lm, polarity protected current regulated constant current driver with low voltage protection (constant brightness, no PWM, no step down, cuts out at 1.05V), copper bonded high CRI 3500K emitter below the BBL with no cast of any kind (sandy), borosilicate glass lens, aluminum silvered reflector, potted electronics, screwed on deep carry clip, waterproof, and a bag of Cheetoh’s.

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It’s worth repeating this once in a while:

Scallywag wrote:
I think the next BLF light should be

Whatever someone wants enough to gather support for, organize development for, get an interest list for, and successfully pitch to a manufacturer.

It’s a lot of work. I don’t think the development is going to happen based on poll results or even popularity. It’s going to happen because one person, or a small group of people, get really dedicated to a project and make it happen.

If you want something which doesn’t exist… make it. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

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What about designing and fabricating the longest sustainable running flashlight on the market. We have the thrower category and the flooder and the highest lumen torches. The longest running torch I own is the original GT, it seems to run all night long when the family’s out playing at night. It gets warm but holds turbo like nothing else I own. I am no engineer but don’t think it would be that difficult to achieve. What about adding twice the mass to the FT03 for example and limiting it to 1.5K lumens. Poor example I’m sure but something along those lines. I love my FW21 Pro, NSX3A and other hotrod torches but getting a bit tired of the super duper lights not being able to even run on high for long periods of time. What does everyone else think? Am I just dreaming or is the technology still not there.

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Side by side AA/14500 light with Narsil. White, red and UV emitters. No FET drivers and a simple ramping UI. I am tired of FW Andruil lights. I’m over it.

Take a look at Anduril 2, much better

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I think a good headlamp would be something different

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Majoroverkill wrote:
What about designing and fabricating the longest sustainable running flashlight on the market. We have the thrower category and the flooder and the highest lumen torches. The longest running torch I own is the original GT, it seems to run all night long when the family’s out playing at night. It gets warm but holds turbo like nothing else I own. I am no engineer but don’t think it would be that difficult to achieve. What about adding twice the mass to the FT03 for example and limiting it to 1.5K lumens. Poor example I’m sure but something along those lines. I love my FW21 Pro, NSX3A and other hotrod torches but getting a bit tired of the super duper lights not being able to even run on high for long periods of time. What does everyone else think? Am I just dreaming or is the technology still not there.

I agree, a compact light that could support continuous 1,500+ lumens would be great.
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stephenk wrote:
Majoroverkill wrote:
What about designing and fabricating the longest sustainable running flashlight … What about adding twice the mass to the FT03 for example and limiting it to 1.5K lumens.

I agree, a compact light that could support continuous 1,500+ lumens would be great.

This is mainly about the physical size and mass of the light. It may or may not be possible, depending on the definition of “compact”.

There are lights which can already do it… Q8, SP36, D18, M43, MF01S, and almost anything with a similar design.

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What about designing and fabricating the longest sustainable running flashlight … What about adding twice the mass to the FT03 for example and limiting it to 1.5K lumens.
Yes, getting around the laws of physics would be tricky.

I agree, a compact light that could support continuous 1,500+ lumens would be great.

This is mainly about the physical size and mass of the light. It may or may not be possible, depending on the definition of “compact”.

There are lights which can already do it… Q8, SP36, D18, M43, MF01S, and almost anything with a similar design.


The laws of physics are a bitch! I’m sure a very solidly built 18650/21700 tube light could manage 1000lm sustained.
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stephenk wrote:
The laws of physics are a bitch! I’m sure a very solidly built 18650/21700 tube light could manage 1000lm sustained.

How about the 30mm wide single 21700 Thrunite T2?

ZeroAir’s review shows it can sustain 1600lm for an hour or 1400lm for 90 minutes.

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I fear we may have hit a wall in terms of emitter and lighting technology. I honestly do not see anything on the horizon, which actually has me excited about it. Until companies can come out with the next breakthrough in emitter tech, I really do not think there is much to build interest on upon. But, if I had a choice I would try and make an attempt at making a 10 million plus candela light. If possible, maybe a sustain 100,000 thousand lumen? Of course, it would have to be a thrower. Just throwing ideas out there.

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Lightbringer wrote:

Hey, a reflector this big might be the largest in the flashlight…but obviously to have one that is the largest ever we should top that.
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That one looks to be the right size, lol. Whatever it takes to make it happen I say. But, as you mentioned, shipping will most likely kill the deal.

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You don’t ship the light to yourself but ship yourself to the light. It may not be cheap but come on, can it be so bad? Wink

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I would greatly anticipate anything, which is a multi-emitter E21A setup. (I mean multi as at least 12, but the more, the better.)

There is already Astrolux MF01S and Emisar D18 – these could be good as a starting point, but power should be capped at about 2.5 Watts / emitter. I think, we wouldn’t want to make the precious E21A emitters aging too fast. This would mean 45 Watts for the mentioned flashlights. As tint selection, I think, only these should be sufficient: 3500K, 4500K, 5700K.

Also, there is already BLF LT1… think about a tint mixing between 2000K and 3500K with E21A, that would make a super moody lantern! (A variant with tint mixing between 2700K and 4500K could be also very good, but the first one would be irresistible)

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lcortez321 wrote:
That one looks to be the right size, lol. Whatever it takes to make it happen I say. But, as you mentioned, shipping will most likely kill the deal.

Someone touched the reflector. It’s dull all over.

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sb56637 wrote:
Kindle wrote:
As a few others have mentioned a well designed, slim & rugged AA/14500 light focused on EDC would be wonderful. A light where the clip & ergos get as much attention as the emitter.

^^^ Sounds perfect to me! AA/14500 is hard to beat for its balance between battery life, potential power/output, and form factor.

I also like the idea of a BLF Special Edition keychain light. We already made the biggest flashlight in the world, now let’s make the small(est) one! Big Smile


Maybe could kill 2 birds with 1 stone, a keychain light that could also double up as a head torch.
I’m thinking battery longways with maybe a couple of small emitters with shallow tir optics along the long side of the battery which could clip into a rubber shroud on a headband, or with a ring hole, be on a keychain.
That ticks 2 boxes, the most popular choice in the poll and one I didn’t forsee lol!
Kinda, and I’m loosely saying kinda – like this (but with a couple of emitters maybe? and a ring on the other end to put on a keychain. The bottom one is rough but with keychain loop (which would fold flat) and 2 emitters, maybe 1 could be rgbw or something? just an idea! The BLF KH (Keychain Headlamp)


They do make little shallow optics as my Boruit B50 has them in each side of the main optic
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how about a headlight that can throw at least 100 yards, and heres the kicker, have a dimmer knob so it can be used for actual real life applications like working on the car or shifting stuff around a barn without needing sun glass’s.
reason for the dimmer knob..click click click click..eeeeeh in yu eye! click it yu self! turn a knob, it’s there..turn it up ooo it goes up stays there, turn it down..oooo its goes down lol.., 3.30 AM, plistering down with that ice cold rain, you’ve just soaked yu crotch area and it’s biting like a beaver…click click ohhh the secret double hold on lift of…..arghhhhhhh!!
(you get the point..real life).

needs to have a fairly low profile, the big cup dish’s that give a ‘spot’ light just get dinged at every head turn when theres anything near by..starts to really annoy when your face is in an engine.(4 knucles short and oils starting to sting in the sweat..click..click..oh battery ran out)
certain pwm levals gets quite a few people in real life usage. i know one guy that gets cranky to a dr jackle leval…eeee thats fun to work with lol.

and the use time…long usage of course.
5 minutes lighting the moon is only fun for 5 minutes. sy..2 1/2 minutes then the dim down, heat protection kicks in.

multiple main led’s would broaden it’s usage, e.g. 2 main leds that work indipendantly would encompass the bike riders that love hill racing at night, lol! they play with single led’s and yu know? when it fizzles they rap a bike around a trea!! without causing offence, i do see the fun aspect of it, but, with a single bulb in there? ffs…it’s obvious how the frame got broke.

now, for £10 to £25 you can get head torch’s that are small, can light from 50 yard to 150 yards, but theyre all clicky clicky agrevators, or just to big….or whistle, or pulse..or or or… i have one that has those awful bead led’s in, two.. on full it lasts what seems to be forever, lights up to 50yards or, i can actually see comfortably close up and for walking, cost was £12 including postage..it’s brillient to use small lasts etc..they dont sell them anymore. if only it had a dimmer knob on it.(and if only it wouldnt flash mode me just before it goes dark…) i also have a dim-able cree 70, god does it whistle worse than an early gen 1 head ache night vision but sheesh it’s good near and far and lasts a while..£20.(if you dont mind migraines and eye bleed lol).

so yu jobs done..you’ve recovered from the flash slow flash quick flash the semi morse code in three fformats…(yes with 2 f’s)…its time to pack up, so to switch off flash flash flash mode….bounce n bin fodda.

secret flash mode..ohhh yeah so secret i hope i never find it again lmao!!! eeee shudders..

so i crept allong the feild line (in the dark) and slipped the lamp on, three levals and 4 flash modes to get on..i see the critters have had their tea and cleaned up and left never to be seen again..please kill the clicky mode dimming…it’s only usefull for day trippers and sellers lol.(space stations..men on the moon..nano tecnology…cheepo gadgets from china…..we got this..! (lmfao).

head torch
in short…long battery life.
dimmer knob(…thats every mode you want to use..moonlight to turbo..even on off, with the added exspense of a button..oooo modes too).
low profile.
and can reach the 150 yard or more even without a tight spot.(needs a good spill close up)
battery pack could be a pack on leed if its long run times, like a jack plug on the head pack instead of those cheepo death chargers.
doesnt cost more than i payed for my old car lol (seriously).

if it detaches and can be used..a stand or a magnet etc you’d have a ‘tool’ that was fun to play with. or a babey lamp for what ever distance ‘purpose’.

if you look at the market, 5%have all the wealth…the majority is poor… so you can sell to the few or the many.(pricing for both looses a lot of both ends).

a real work light with pow..ooooooo ooodles.

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carpmon43 wrote:
how about a headlight that can throw at least 100 yards, and heres the kicker, have a dimmer knob…

Have you seen the Nitecore HC90? It goes about 110 meters and has a slider on the top to adjust brightness.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
carpmon43 wrote:
how about a headlight that can throw at least 100 yards, and heres the kicker, have a dimmer knob…

Have you seen the Nitecore HC90? It goes about 110 meters and has a slider on the top to adjust brightness.

pricey, but interesting thank you.

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