GAVE UP ON CHINA

I want to buy a half dozen throwers of good quality.
Any suggestions?

I am in OREGON/USA

So why did you give up on China?

Was it long shipping times, horrible customer service, or something else?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG SHIPPING TIMES

Your caps locks is jammed.

Consider something like the Acebeam L18 or if you want more lumens the Wurkkos TS30S (you can find some codes in the forum). They are somewhat expensive.

If you need something cheaper the Wowtac A4 v2 will do, but it’s just a budget Catapult v6 like the one you are used to.

I like to shop at Illumn and Going Gear.

FT03 from Banggood with ship from US warehouse selected is an option that works well if you find one with emitter and tint you want.

yeah they love u LONG TIME !!!

:smiley:

Long shipping times aside…

-it has gotten much harder to order from (and trust) many Chinese outlets we used to get stellar service from just a few years back. And some of the direct Chinese sellers seem to be hitting the cocaine lately too (I won’t say who… but I’m about to stop buying from one I used to buy from regularly).

Pricing in MANY markets (USA firmly included) the last decade seem to swing 20% or more overnight, where as before 3-5% was a massive price shift. Seems some of these Chinese sellers ARE playing at the table and are willing to go ALL in on pricing and when they do… I fold and don’t play that table again.

Add in FAKE taxes, and odd payment schemes and you just lost me as your customer— for life. Hey, these lights are fun but when it’s not “budget” anymore, it’s not BLF. :neutral_face: I’m out when China gets overpriced and with the killer Amazon deals (that will occasionally come around), I can feed my needs for future lights to come.

That said, Convoy and Wuben are two GREAT sellers I’ve experienced recently and highly recommend.

:slight_smile:

:star:

too bad about Marshall…RIP

:+1:

Right,
I had 6 CONVOYS ready to go until checkout……and I Checked Out.!

There’s a guy stateside mohrlumens that sells Convoy stuff but he’s perpetually sold out (because he’s the only stateside seller). Everything’s long shipping from China these days, with Chinese new year just ending.

Everyone on BLF has a love/hate relationship with BG.

I believe that quote came from a movie based in Vietnam. (could be wrong)

Yup, it's from Full Metal Jacket (1987), though I think the quote might apply to any Asian lady of the evening.

I like ordering from Amos & Andy.
Quick shipping, and Make an Offer feature I’ve used to match or pretty close to the Chinese price.
(or is that andrew-amanda.com?) :smiley:

With numerous strikes against Nealsgadgets and now FireFlies they are both on my ‘no longer doing business with’ list.
BG and AE I rarely use, to date I’ve only used AE once for a convoy.

However, Hank at Int-outdoor has set the bar high for Chinese vendors, Hanks communication and customer service has been stellar.

Edited to remove political references.

Bloody right there is.