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Multiple Lumintop websites?

Im noticing that Lumintop has many websites.

Which one is the “real” one?

At first I was using this one (https://lumintop.com/)that doesnt seem to have prices on anything or the ability to purchase anything.

Then later trying to visit the site again i found myself on this one (https://lumintoplighting.com/) that does have prices and the ability to purchase products, and I ordered 3 10180 cells.

Just now trying to visit the site again I find myslef on 3rd website (https://www.lumintoponline.com/)

Did I order from the real Lumintop?

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Not sure if it helps or if anyone can translate, but this is the Lumintop business license. Maybe extract the address and then compare with whois reg data?


https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9xzGDR

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CRC wrote:
Im noticing that Lumintop has many websites.

you are correct that there is more than one site with “lumintop” as part of the website name
(this is also true for fenix, nitecore, and olight)

the one you ordered from is a retailer.. more details below

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lumintop and lumintoponline email have the same lumintop.com host, I think they are factory sites:

1. https://lumintop.com/contact/
Email: sales@lumintop.com
I cannot buy from this site, it is info only, but it lags on new product listings
a search such as “fwaa” produces no results

===

2. https://www.lumintoponline.com
Email: ec@lumintop.com
I can buy from this site, but it lags on new product listings
a search for “fwaa” produces no results

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lumintoplighting appears to be a retailer:

3. https://www.lumintoplighting.com
Email: lumintoplighting@foxmail.com
I can buy from this site, and product listings are more up to date than the official sites
a search for “fwaa” Does produce results

another retail site that sells the Lumintop FWAA is nealsgadgets

afaict
the retail sites are more up to date than the official sites

opinion
Lumintop likes to sell batches of lights to resellers. There is a thing called MOQ, (Minimum Order Quantity). If a retailer wants to sell a “Special Factory Order” of a Lumintop made light, they must buy a MOQ. (I think it is 500 units, but not sure of the details of each model and vendor relationship)

In the past Lumintop made the Reylight Copper Tool (with a custom Reylight label), plus their own Lumintop branded version of the Tool

Presently Lumintop makes the Maratac, (the only model that seems to have an exclusive outlet, and is labeled Maratac)

Lumintop also makes the Massdrop and Drop Tools, which are unlabelled, just blank, no drop, no massdrop, no lumintop markings at all..

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jon_slider wrote:
you are correct that there is more than one site with “lumintop” as part of the name
(this is also true for fenix and nitecore)

the one you ordered from is a retailer.. more details below

===
lumintop and lumintoponline email have the same lumintop.com host, I think they are factory sites:

1. https://lumintop.com/contact/
Email: sales@lumintop.com
I cannot buy from this site, it is info only, but it lags on new product listings
a search such as “fwaa” produces no results

===

2. https://www.lumintoponline.com
Email: ec@lumintop.com
I can buy from this site, but it lags on new product listings
a search for “fwaa” produces no results

===
lumintoplighting appears to be a retailer:

3. https://www.lumintoplighting.com
Email: lumintoplighting@foxmail.com
I can buy from this site, and product listings are more up to date than the official sites
a search for “fwaa” Does produce results

another retail site that sells the Lumintop FWAA is nealsgadgets

afaict
the retail sites are more up to date than the official sites

So I should have nothing to worry about with my order then?

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I dont think you need to worry at all,

please confirm Wink

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jon_slider wrote:
I dont think you need to worry at all,

please confirm Wink

Awesome, thanks for the help!
I’ll update when I do or dont receive my cells.

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CRC wrote:
jon_slider wrote:
you are correct that there is more than one site with “lumintop” as part of the name
(this is also true for fenix and nitecore)

the one you ordered from is a retailer.. more details below

===
lumintop and lumintoponline email have the same lumintop.com host, I think they are factory sites:

1. https://lumintop.com/contact/
Email: sales@lumintop.com
I cannot buy from this site, it is info only, but it lags on new product listings
a search such as “fwaa” produces no results

===

2. https://www.lumintoponline.com
Email: ec@lumintop.com
I can buy from this site, but it lags on new product listings
a search for “fwaa” produces no results

===
lumintoplighting appears to be a retailer:

3. https://www.lumintoplighting.com
Email: lumintoplighting@foxmail.com
I can buy from this site, and product listings are more up to date than the official sites
a search for “fwaa” Does produce results

another retail site that sells the Lumintop FWAA is nealsgadgets

afaict
the retail sites are more up to date than the official sites

So I should have nothing to worry about with my order then?

In my experience Lumintoplighting is more reliable and responsive to inqueries then the official site. YEMD

I feel sorry for people who don't have a hobby or interest to escape to.

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I have ordered several times from Lumintoplighting.com. They’re very responsive, and go the extra mile. Last November, when everybody was out of stock on the aluminum GT Micro NM1 (including their own website), I fired off an email to them inquiring about possible restock time frames. 2 hours later I have a response from them they found two in their warehouse. I jumped on one, and it was in my mailbox Christmas eve. Needless to say, I was very impressed, and grateful.

I would order from them without hesitation. They stock hard to find items, and have reasonable pricing. As always, YMMV.

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So im noticing a lot of websites saying that they cant ship batteries/cells unless they’re installed in a flashlight.

I think it was one of the Lumintop website that said that they will actually put a battery/cell order inside a defective flashlight just to be able to ship it.

Some websites give me a warning right up front when I try to add batteries/cells to the cart saying something to the effect of “sorry we cant ship this particular item”

I emailed Manker about whether or not they sold batteries and they told me

“We don’t sell battery.
at the moment our forwarder can not ship battery, so that we have never sold battery individually.
Usually we pack battery into flashlight body, the forwarder can consider them as built-in battery to ship.”

Im starting to wonder whats going to happen with my Lumintop order now.
The lumintoplighting website allowed me to add the three 10180 batteries to my cart and place the order and took my payment.

The status of that order is still “awaiting shipment”

Im hoping I dont get a response saying that they cant actually fulfill my order and refund my money..

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A couple of years ago I ordered a couple of Golisi 21700s from a battery store on Aliexpress. After ordering I got concerned about shipping, contacted the seller and was told it was not a problem “we have ways”. I was surprised to see the batteries inside fake injection molded plastic flashlights. They had a real incan bulb with a foil reflector and cotton thread for wires. Very clever, I wonder why it’s not more widespread, I haven’t seen regulations that would prohibit using something like that or just some type of approved shipping container.

The Vapcell store on Ali seems to ship more places then some other sellers that have a blanket policy about shipping batteries. They do seem to having shipping problems now, maybe it’s just to my area.

I feel sorry for people who don't have a hobby or interest to escape to.

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I have this bugging question: Why Banggood cannot ship lithium rechargeable batteries to Singapore, whereas those sellers on Ali Express have no such problem. I have bought batteries from Ali Express many times; and shipments have arrived in normal packages without any issue.

I have also found that a few vendors in the USA and in The Netherlands do not ship their lithium rechargeable batteries to Singapore. Why? Their batteries lack international safety certification for air transport?

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CRC wrote:
So im noticing a lot of websites saying that they cant ship batteries/cells unless they’re installed in a flashlight.

I think it was one of the Lumintop website that said that they will actually put a battery/cell order inside a defective flashlight just to be able to ship it.

Some websites give me a warning right up front when I try to add batteries/cells to the cart saying something to the effect of “sorry we cant ship this particular item”

I emailed Manker about whether or not they sold batteries and they told me

“We don’t sell battery.
at the moment our forwarder can not ship battery, so that we have never sold battery individually.
Usually we pack battery into flashlight body, the forwarder can consider them as built-in battery to ship.”

Im starting to wonder whats going to happen with my Lumintop order now.
The lumintoplighting website allowed me to add the three 10180 batteries to my cart and place the order and took my payment.

The status of that order is still “awaiting shipment”

Im hoping I dont get a response saying that they cant actually fulfill my order and refund my money..

It is not true that batteries can’t be shipped by air, at least from what I have read. The issues happen because they can’t be shipped on a commercial passenger airliner! A lot of items from Banggood, AliExpress, Fast tech, etc. are shipped in the cargo hold of passenger airliners to save on shipping on a freight only transport jet. That caused huge delays during the pandemic when passenger flights were curtailed. I think similar restrictions are also enforced on cruise ships vs cargo ships. During the early evolution of li-ion batteries the ICR chemical makeup of these early cells were very volotile and mishaps happened.

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Is the Aliexpress Lumintop store a real store or also a distributor?

It looks real to me, but I am not a pro.

I was looking for a 21700 model here https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9fcw9d

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bmwsancho wrote:
Is the Aliexpress Lumintop store a real store or also a distributor?

It looks real to me, but I am not a pro.

I was looking for a 21700 model here https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9fcw9d


checked the link, that one seems like the real Lumintop store at Aliexpress.
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My order says shipped now so looking good!

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bmwsancho wrote:
Is the Aliexpress Lumintop store a real store or also a distributor?

It looks real to me, but I am not a pro.

I was looking for a 21700 model here https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9fcw9d


looks real to me!
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bmwsancho wrote:
Is the Aliexpress Lumintop store a real store or also a distributor?

It looks real to me, but I am not a pro.

I was looking for a 21700 model here https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9fcw9d


all my authentic flashlights are from that store. I am assuming that this is the real store.
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So I did receive my order.
All good