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cri i would call usable.
not horrible blue/purple.
a 9 led loaded with the ebay high cri 5mm puts it to shame.
it does have a spot beam that is more useful at distance.

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https://budgetlightforum.com/node/72066
i thought i had posted this light a while back.

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nottawhackjob wrote:
This one has ribs. Perhaps more pleasurable? LOL 50 lumens too. Maybe the same cat in a different sweater? Cheaper by the dozen if it’s basically the same @.78 each. Plus ya get all the colors.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Ot-Mini-Led-Flashlight/857771250

PS. Can’t get the WM link to work either on the OP flash.

PSS. Ribbed flash unfortunately not available for in-store pick-up. Someone would havta take one for the team. Shocked

not the same light.
the ot-50l has a removable head.

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Ok. Good to know. Thumbs Up

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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“Beaver shot”? Well, I asked The Beaver, and he said…

 

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I had to get one, and had to insert a short 18650 in. It works! Though the extra length exposed more pressure on the “pill”. May break anytime.

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Between beaver shots and hot spots, yes, I would say flashaholics can be weird.

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snakebite wrote:
cri i would call usable. not horrible blue/purple. a 9 led loaded with the ebay high cri 5mm puts it to shame. it does have a spot beam that is more useful at distance.

Wondering if ya could be more specific. I’m interested in your opinion even tho’ someday I’ll pick up one of these. Realize you say the CRI is “usable”.

Watt I mean….

Specifically, how does the color brown at night TCR to the brown(s) on a familiar object when it’s viewed in sunlight?

PS. I reside in a high desert environment. LOTS of rattlesnakes. Foremost the Southern Pacific on this 5 acre property. It’s also considered by one of the top venomous snake experts in the country (my doctor) if not THE most venomous now due to suspected interbreeding with the Mojave Green. It’s mainly a brownish snake in that color spectrum.

Your handle sorta prompted me to ask. LOL

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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@whackjob, i would give it a 10 for TCR, it is easy to see brown versus black or green at night with this light; the colors are true with no extra yellow of some cheap emitters.

i don’t really have a good way to take a beamer shot to show you, maybe someone else more experienced will do that.

This is not the OT-50L version, but the OT・50L. Center dot versus dash, subtle little difference such as sometimes seen in products from vachina.

It has really long springs at both ends, so they could easily be shortened to use a longer single cell. It’s just begging for a mod.

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Exactly watt I was looking for. Gotta hand out a lot of these to fam, friends, neighbors, and maybe even boyscouts and local hikers.

Lotsa rattlers here. And this species is particularly aggressive if it feels cornered.

Thanks, Kenny. Appreciated.

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“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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zoulas wrote:

If I had to guess, that’s a picture taken with the light flat on the table so you can better see the tint. Just a guess.


Yeah, but do we really need to make up new terms that are so extremely sexual on a family forum?  alt=:" />


I mean, BLF is not an adult website.


Time for an adjunct forum, BLF at night?
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Adult Swim at the neighborhood pool—all the kids out and just the parents to have an hour to themselves without the chiklets.

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nottawhackjob wrote:
THE most venomous now due to suspected interbreeding with the Mojave Green. It’s mainly a brownish snake in that color spectrum.

Is this marked like a rattler or plain colored? Have any pictures?

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kennybobby wrote:
nottawhackjob wrote:
THE most venomous now due to suspected interbreeding with the Mojave Green. It’s mainly a brownish snake in that color spectrum.

Is this marked like a rattler or plain colored? Have any pictures?

They didn’t latin it ‘Helleri’ for nuthin’. Shocked Doc told me…….“If ya get bit I just meet ya at the hospital. Time’s of the essense.”

Top pic is the best TCR.

Thx.

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/c.o.helleri.html

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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I can’t find any real tests of these lights. Are they really high CRI (> 90)? What’s the color temp/tint like?

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nottawhackjob wrote:

They didn’t latin it ‘Helleri’ for nuthin’. Shocked Doc told me…….“If ya get bit I just meet ya at the hospital. Time’s of the essense.”

Top pic is the best TCR.

Thx.

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/c.o.helleri.html

Dat gum, they must have some concentrated venom—i’m rootin fer the kingsnakes…

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kennybobby wrote:
nottawhackjob wrote:

They didn’t latin it ‘Helleri’ for nuthin’. Shocked Doc told me…….“If ya get bit I just meet ya at the hospital. Time’s of the essense.”

Top pic is the best TCR.

Thx.

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/c.o.helleri.html

Dat gum, they must have some concentrated venom—i’m rootin fer the kingsnakes…

!{width:50%}http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/images/lzmulteatcrotfrpb072.jpg!

Yeah brother! We got those plus gopher snakes and mah favorite rattler control bird, roadrunners. Well, they’d be mah favorite bird regardless. Luv that critter.
Beep! Beep! LOL Thumbs Up Beer

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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Don’t get me wrong. I have a couple dozen cheap lights, possibly more. You know, there is not much variation. Cheap is cheap. I thought this was the budget light forum, not the cheapest light forum.

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zoulas wrote:
Don’t get me wrong. I have a couple dozen cheap lights, possibly more. You know, there is not much variation. Cheap is cheap. I thought this was the budget light forum, not the cheapest light forum.

Ya need to head over to the new Cheapest Budget Light Forum (CBLF) over at CPF. They THRIVE on this kinda stuff. Shocked

PS. Ya do realize these are intended mainly for distribution to muggies, right?

Watt ya want us to doo give ‘em Surefires and Nitecores? LOL

PSS. We’re not elitists here. We just pretend to be. Thumbs Up

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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The beauty of a really cheap light is people who don't mod ..(because they feel like they have very little talent) OR ( hate to screw up a decent light)  get the opportunity to take a chance and might realize that they made the light better  . , A  cheap light gives all of us a chance to try something new without any real risk. 

 

 

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zoulas wrote:
Don’t get me wrong. I have a couple dozen cheap lights, possibly more. You know, there is not much variation. Cheap is cheap. I thought this was the budget light forum, not the cheapest light forum.

Nobody is forcing you to read or post in this thread in the AAA flashlights forum, but you obviously can’t stay away—and it’s because you aren’t sure that this isn’t the best new $1 AAA- batteries-included flashlight out there, right? Or are you just slummin’ down here with the cheap suits.

i understand the hesitancy, but if you don’t like the beav, walmar will take it back and give you a refund, no questions asked.

Heck you can open the tail and remove the plastic separator while in the store and give it a try there—don’t even have to buy it if you don’t like it.

But if you try one there is a huge variation, none of your cheap beamers will even come close.

Budget means Value, not price. Good Value for your money is good for the Budget.

That it sells for a low price is just a bonus.

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Grabbed a few of these today that look like post #5 with OT.50L printed on the tube. They’re extremely cool white and on the throwy side. For comparison, left to right:

Convoy S2+ 219C 4000K
Wurkkos FC11 LH351D 5000K
Emisar D4V2 XP-L HI 6500K
Walmart OT.50L ????K

There’s noticeable tint difference among the four I bought, with two slightly rosy and two slightly green. In my super-scientific bathroom ceiling bounce test, my luxmeter app read about 50% higher than the FC11’s “50LM” setting (using Eneloops) so the OT.50L’s 50 lumen claim is probably accurate, possibly conservative.

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nottawhackjob wrote:
They didn't latin it 'Helleri' for nuthin'...

 

Butt knot for watt yer thinkin.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Heller 

I don't know much of anything about western snakes...enough to know that there's a damn lot of them and most of them mean business.  Snake latin and species/subspecies/varieties are weird, though, lots more going on than with most other areas of biology.  Pretty common for someone to tack on their name upon confirmation of a new species, etc...like astronomers getting to name their stars. 

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And why not? All those western Cossacks had were poisonous snakes and cactus plants.

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Anyone do any run time test on these?

Will they run on eneloops without overheating/dimming the LED?

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i suspect they would be fine on eneloops.
on a 18650 at full charge i get 230 ma.
after it runs a while i can dump out the cell and reach a finger to the board.
i can hold it there no problem.
several full cycles with a 2200mah cell show no degradation.

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snakebite wrote:
i suspect they would be fine on eneloops. on a 18650 at full charge i get 230 ma. after it runs a while i can dump out the cell and reach a finger to the board. i can hold it there no problem. several full cycles with a 2200mah cell show no degradation.

Thanks!

How long did it run on the 2200 mAh cell?

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JagerLion said……

“There’s noticeable tint difference among the four I bought, with two slightly rosy and two slightly green. In my super-scientific bathroom ceiling bounce test, my luxmeter app read about 50% higher than the FC11’s “50LM” setting (using Eneloops) so the OT.50L’s 50 lumen claim is probably accurate, possibly conservative.”

So lemme get this straight, of the four OT.50Ls that ya bought all of them were ‘cool white’, yet with varying tints, green to rosy, correct?

PS. Would ya consider doing a TCR on all four? I’m curious if YOU see any variation in true color rendition between the two tints mentioned. I realize this is subjective to your eyes only.

(TCR definition is in my signature. This can be segregated per individual colors. For instance one emitter may have browns stand out as truer, while another yellows, etc. Just trying to determine how consistent the emitters in the 50.L’s are. Butt I doubt there’s little if any TCR individual/overall color shift on these. Slight tint variations from one 50.L to the next notwithstanding. Kennybobby has pretty much confirmed this and I trust his judgement.)

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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Correllux wrote:

nottawhackjob wrote:
They didn’t latin it ‘Helleri’ for nuthin’…

 


Butt knot for watt yer thinkin.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Heller 

I don’t know much of anything about western snakes…enough to know that there’s a damn lot of them and most of them mean business.  Snake latin and species/subspecies/varieties are weird, though, lots more going on than with most other areas of biology.  Pretty common for someone to tack on their name upon confirmation of a new species, etc…like astronomers getting to name their stars. 

How appropriately coincidental. One hell of a reptile.

PS. Speakin’ of coincidences, I had a butt knot this morning. Cramp. I know, TMI. LOL Shocked

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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xxo wrote:
Anyone do any run time test on these? Will they run on eneloops without overheating/dimming the LED?

I ran my four samples 7 hours on Eneloops. 4 hours full or near-full brightness. Visible dimming around 5-6 hours. A few lumens or less at 7 hours. Immediately tested the batteries after pulling at the 7 hour mark and got voltages from 0.82V to 1.02V.

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So lemme get this straight, of the four OT.50Ls that ya bought all of them were ‘cool white’, yet with varying tints, green to rosy, correct?

Correct. Tint difference isn’t dramatic enough for my phone to capture well, and not enough to be annoying (to me anyway). The left two appear slightly green, right two slightly rosy.

nottawhackjob wrote:
PS. Would ya consider doing a TCR on all four? I’m curious if YOU see any variation in true color rendition between the two tints mentioned. I realize this is subjective to your eyes only.

To me the TCR/CRI appears quite poor. Take that with a large grain of salt because of my dislike for super cool temps, and I’m bad at estimating CRI anyway.

A couple other pics. Disassembly is easy enough. A firm counterclock twist and the glued-on top comes off:

And the emitter. The dome isn’t scratched up like it appears, I think those are reflections:

Anyway, obviously not for serious use but definitely worth a dollar just to mess around with.

I shoot magic into the darkness!

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