Best Sofirn SC31b alternative for my Dad?

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Best Sofirn SC31b alternative for my Dad?

I got the SC31b for my Mom and she really likes it. Dad likes it too and borrows it a lot. I know I could probably track down the discontinued model at a third-party retailer somewhere, but I figure there is probably something better out there.

Requirements:
- Not too expensive because he might lose it where it won’t be found. (farmer)
- Simple interface, NO Anduril
- Built-in charging
- 1000 lumens or better max output
- robust water resistance so it can potentially survive the clothes washing machine
- mix of flood and throw

I’ll be searching on my own too but I figured I’d ask BLF since I only have firsthand knowledge of a handful of brands.

EDIT EDIT EDIT

DECISION MADE Thanks everyone!

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I just got a Wowtac A6 that might be good for a non flashaholic. About $20 when 30% off. Simple ui, charging, battery included and now comes in NW. High is 400 lumens and doesn’t get hot. Turbo is 1400 lumens but has a timed step down of about 2 minutes and does get hot. Click on/off. Hold to change modes. Double click for turbo. Has memory.
https://www.amazon.com/WOWTAC-Handheld-Flashlight-Rechargeable-Waterproo...

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pennzy wrote:
I just got a Wowtac A6 that might be good for a non flashaholic. About $20 when 30% off. Simple ui, charging, battery included and now comes in NW. High is 400 lumens and doesn’t get hot. Turbo is 1400 lumens but has a timed step down of about 2 minutes and does get hot. Click on/off. Hold to change modes. Double click for turbo. Has memory.
https://www.amazon.com/WOWTAC-Handheld-Flashlight-Rechargeable-Waterproo...

The modes/outputs seem to be nearly identical to the SC31b. I wonder if the internals are actually the same. Thanks for the suggestion this one is definitely a possibility.

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Wurkkos FC11

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pennzy wrote:
I just got a Wowtac A6 that might be good for a non flashaholic. About $20 when 30% off. Simple ui, charging, battery included and now comes in NW. High is 400 lumens and doesn’t get hot. Turbo is 1400 lumens but has a timed step down of about 2 minutes and does get hot. Click on/off. Hold to change modes. Double click for turbo. Has memory. https://www.amazon.com/WOWTAC-Handheld-Flashlight-Rechargeable-Waterproo...

Wowtac A6 is a nice light. Compact, with charging and with a nice UI.

However, there’s no way it would survive a trip through the washing machine. I don’t see the rubber flap covering the charging port providing sufficient water resistance to protect against such abuse.

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Firelight2 wrote:
pennzy wrote:
I just got a Wowtac A6 that might be good for a non flashaholic. About $20 when 30% off. Simple ui, charging, battery included and now comes in NW. High is 400 lumens and doesn’t get hot. Turbo is 1400 lumens but has a timed step down of about 2 minutes and does get hot. Click on/off. Hold to change modes. Double click for turbo. Has memory. https://www.amazon.com/WOWTAC-Handheld-Flashlight-Rechargeable-Waterproo...

Wowtac A6 is a nice light. Compact, with charging and with a nice UI.

However, there’s no way it would survive a trip through the washing machine. I don’t see the rubber flap covering the charging port providing sufficient water resistance to protect against such abuse.


Well, someone on BLF washed their Zebralight the other day and that died too so I guess maybe that requirement is unrealistic for a budget priced light.

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Firelight2 wrote:
pennzy wrote:
I just got a Wowtac A6 that might be good for a non flashaholic. About $20 when 30% off. Simple ui, charging, battery included and now comes in NW. High is 400 lumens and doesn’t get hot. Turbo is 1400 lumens but has a timed step down of about 2 minutes and does get hot. Click on/off. Hold to change modes. Double click for turbo. Has memory. https://www.amazon.com/WOWTAC-Handheld-Flashlight-Rechargeable-Waterproo...

Wowtac A6 is a nice light. Compact, with charging and with a nice UI.

However, there’s no way it would survive a trip through the washing machine. I don’t see the rubber flap covering the charging port providing sufficient water resistance to protect against such abuse.


Maybe, maybe not. I wanted to be able to clip this to a baseball cap but the included clip is not reversible and the tube is not either. I found that the universal S2+ clip Simon sells will fit in the forward groove and can be positioned over the charge flap. This may help keep it water proof in the wash and now the light can be used on a hat. I also made a wire ring and glued it around the small button making it easy to find by feel. Also some DC Fix.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32579921654.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_grou...

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I would also like a foolproof, REALLY simple 18650/21700 light for Dad to compliment his gigantic Maglites. Like single button, 2 or 3 levels (off, 50, 500+ lumen) and that’s it. No electronic lockout. No settings. USB rechargeable. LVP. Spot & spill. Does such a thing exist?

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carsknivesbeer wrote:
Wurkkos FC11

I’d got with this too. Very similar interface in stepped mode.

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SP35. $31 shipped direct, from US.

Some don’t like the output fluctuation that the ATR produces, but it’s unlikely to be noticeable in practical usage.

But it will protect the light, and provide higher sustained output than won’t sag as the battery is depleted.

21700 has more capacity that will allow it to run longer, while being only slightly larger than an 18650. Full USB-C charging.

Larger deeper, reflector provides more throw, but still a well-rounded beam and a fairly large hot spot (much better than the SC31B in that respect)

Same simple, effective UI as FC11, SC31B, and many others — one click on/off, hold to change levels. Hold from off for moonlight, double click for turbo, triple for strobe.

FC11 has its charms, mainly CRI, but it won’t throw as far, and in prolonged use, is really a ~300lm light after the first couple minutes, and declines from there as the battery does. Even with ATR, the SP35 never drops below 500lm on turbo or high.

On a farm, no question which one is going to be a more capable tool.

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I have posted a FS thread here, selling new in box SC31B. I had got a bunch for gifts, this is an absolute best muggle mode light!

https://budgetlightforum.com/node/78937

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Wurkkos Fc11 2700k,4k,5k great ui. Your mother will borrow his. Get 2.

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Oli wrote:
Wurkkos Fc11 2700k,4k,5k great ui. Your mother will borrow his. Get 2.

You’re the second person to mention it. But that light has Anduril and my parents would be forever getting it into blinkies and config menus when they just want light.

I’m currently leaning towards Wowtac A5, A6 or Thrunite TC15. The TC15 mode spacing is maybe not the best for my dad though. High is 1000ish lumens and medium is about 250. The wowtac is inferior to the A6 in specs but I wonder if maybe 400 lumens might be a more useful level of light.

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Fc11 has a pretty simple UI it’s not Anduril. Click on click off with memory. Once on, press and hold to ramp up and then down. There are a few other features but it’s hard to get in trouble. Wowtac A6 has a miserable little button/switch.

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Oli wrote:
Fc11 has a pretty simple UI it’s not Anduril. Click on click off with memory. Once on, press and hold to ramp up and then down. There are a few other features but it’s hard to get in trouble. The Wowtac a1s and a7 both in neutral are very simple also. Rear switch is on and off only with memory, and the front switch changes modes. You can’t get in trouble.

Weird for some reason I had that filed under “Anduril” in my mind. I double-checked some reviews though and I think I still have to eliminate that one on the grounds of the low sustainable output. This will be a general purpose light sometime used in fairly open spaces outdoors. According to the graph here the FC11 is just too dim after 1.5 minutes

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Agreed. Open spaces outdoors FC11 not so great. I removed references to the Wowtac A1S because you need to remove the battery to plug in the micro USB. The A7 would work better outdoors with onboard charging but you need to turn the light on in order for it to charge and that can be a little finicky if you don’t know what you’re doing.

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For outdoor usage with your requirements get the Wurkkos diving lights. Dead simple UIs. Diving lights means they kinda will withstand washing machines per definition Big Smile

wurkkos dl10r for example has a magnetic rotary switch and built in charging hidden in the tailcap.

The only downside -> you don’t get a very low mode.

wurkkos dl30 is another alternative with rotary switch, where the low is a bit more low too Big Smile Not sure about charging though.

They are not as small as the 18650 lights, but still jacket pocket-able and good to carry in hand.

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Sofirn if22a? TIR with throwy efficient led gives a nice hotspot and nice bleed as well. There is a thread here, have not gotten mine yet.

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Why not a 2×AA light? Longer, so harder to misplace. Still lightweight. Most have simple stoopit UIs and only 2-3 modes.

If you don’t mind always-starts-on-high, LuxPro lights would fit the bill. Rubber-coated battery-tube, so grippy as well.

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Lightbringer wrote:
Why not a 2×AA light? Longer, so harder to misplace. Still lightweight. Most have simple stoopit UIs and only 2-3 modes.

If you don’t mind always-starts-on-high, LuxPro lights would fit the bill. Rubber-coated battery-tube, so grippy as well.


Hmm he’s had a taste of that 18650 POWER though. If I got him a AA light he’d probably feel bad that he got a dimmer light than Mom’s.

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CollectEverything wrote:
Lightbringer wrote:
Why not a 2×AA light?

Hmm he’s had a taste of that 18650 POWER though. If I got him a AA light he’d probably feel bad that he got a dimmer light than Mom’s.
I was thinking the same thing. I believe that whenever somebody recommends an AA light their lithium ion lights should be locked up for a week. Second offense locked up for a month.
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Whuuut.

Small and compact AA/AAA style lights are great! Manker E02/3, Skilhunt E2/3, i3/i5, Zebra 5 series, sofirn c01xx, Convoy T series, Lumintop Tool just to name a few.

Great for EDC, backup, purselight, muggle friendly, generally inexpensive. Like seriously, stock up on sofirn c01 deals for a few bucks per light and you will have always a little light to give away to friends and family in need. Also I am not gonna borrow my friends a Anduril KR4 or so, that’s just a disaster waiting to happen. A simple E3a on the other hand? Everybody can handle that.

I enjoy my LiIon lights a lot like everybody else here, but when it comes to value added to my life the small AAA/AA ones are just the bread and butter of my flashlight fleet.

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I just ready through this whole thing, kinda sounds like you’re gettin another SC31b. Lol

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wait a minute, no body ever heard of SC31T ? SC31T features SST40, side switch for selecting brightness, and tactical tail switch for momentary-on, USB C charging port, easy UI.

CLICK ME TO CHECK

 

 

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Hmm, that’s new to me.

Hmm, is it friendly to The Muggle?

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Barry0892 wrote:

wait a minute, no body ever heard of SC31T ? SC31T features SST40, side switch for selecting brightness, and tactical tail switch for momentary-on, USB C charging port, easy UI.


CLICK ME TO CHECK


 


 



Actually I did notice that one on the Sofirn site. I was thinking I might avoid lights with a 2 button interface. He’s never had a light with more than one button and I didn’t want to risk him hating it because of that. I’ll think about it though.

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SC31T 6500k No that’s not friendly to anyone.

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Still, sofirn if22a seems pretty straight forward!

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Lumen9000 wrote:
Still, sofirn if22a seems pretty straight forward!

It’s not really available though, is it? And I can’t find any data on runtimes or output either besides what is advertised.

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CollectEverything wrote:
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Still, sofirn if22a seems pretty straight forward!
It’s not really available though, is it? And I can’t find any data on runtimes or output either besides what is advertised.

No, I’ve seen its back in stock, but but no reviews yet. Advertised should hold with a 21700 though, only one SFR 40 led. I
If you have patience you could wait until mine arrives, could give it a go! Smile

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Oli wrote:
SC31T 6500k No that’s not friendly to anyone.

I would tend to agree but my dad likely wouldn’t care. They were installing hideous cool blue led bulbs in their house! Seriously, the temperature must have been north of 6000k. I told them about looking for “soft white” or 2700k-4000k and they are buying those going forward but the old blue bulbs are still in place until they die.

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