Looking for feedback on Haikelite MT03

I’m considering a Haikelite MT03 and I’d like to get some feedback from anyone who owns one, especially the latest version. Wondering how well it lives up to its output claim or if it has any known issues. I’ve read several older reviews on BLF for the original xhp70 version but now it has xhp70.2

It appears to be quite a good value, priced significantly lower than others in its category:
Aliexpress HaikeLite MT03 XHP70.2 21000 lumen flashlight

Or instead I should look at the similar but larger MT09R? I read about some issues with that one, but again from several years ago.

I’d also like to hear of other options for a triple or quad xhp70.2 or SST70 of similar size/price…

Looked at the Thrunite TN50 (16,340lm) and Acebeam X45 (18,000lm) both have a lower rated output than the MT03 and are around $100 more.
And the 25,000lm Imalent MS06 is very interesting (6x XHP70.2) but again a much higher price, and it steps down too quickly.

Also, none of the others I’ve looked at have a neutral tint option except the MT03 in 5000K, so if it’s a good light otherwise this puts it far ahead of anything else I’ve found, since NW is almost a requirement for me.

Now I just found the Amutorch DM70 at nealsgadgets

This looks pretty good too!
The price (after coupon) is about the same as the MT03, its rated 18,000lm max, and available in 4000K or 5000K.

Although I don’t see it on the Amutorch website, only on nealsgadgets.

Here’s the only mention of it on BLF: Amutorch DM70 4-XHP70.2
Anyone have one?

Check out the Haikelite HK07. Only available in 6500k now but hopefully they will have a 5000k version soon as with the HK04. About $85 with the discount and 23000lm claimed. Takes 3 18650s.

Got mine a few days ago but got scammed on some VTC6 button top batteries so haven’t tried it yet as I can’t find suitable button top batteries. I don’t like magnets or solder blobs. Machining, anodizing, and assembly quality look excellent.

IIRC MT03 had issues with counterfeit FETs so it wouldn’t hit the lumen claims unless you replaced the FET with an authentic one.

I did read about that… but it was the MT09R not MT03, unless the MT03 had the same issue?

And from what I read the MT09R would only blow the FET if you did spring bypasses. But without the bypasses it was doing far below the claimed output. Although one member posted he did the spring bypasses, got nearly full output, and still didn’t blow the FET, but it may not fail instantly.

Thanks for the reply, sorry you got fake cells, bummer.

I already had looked at the HK07 but it had too many cons for me compared to the MT03 or Amutorch DM70…

  • First I wondered if 7 XHP50’s would have considerably less throw/more flood than 3 or 4 XHP70’s, with the “wall of light” probably being similar on either, I’d opt for the one with a bit more range.
  • 2nd issue is no NW. I’m totally a neutral fan, however lately I’ve bought several new lights in CW, but only because their emitters aren’t yet produced in NW. (SBT90.2, SFT40, SST70) The HK07 could have NW, but there seems to be a shortage of XHP50.2 NW lately.
  • 3rd issue is no handle, or a tripod hole to install a homemade one like I did for my Q8, for these soda cans I require a handle, I don’t like holding the wide body tube, and with the handle you won’t burn your hand. I’m really liking the Amutorch right now, plus 3x21700 will have massive capacity compared to 3x18650.

My homemade Q8 handle

I have the mto3 and Mt09r they are both awesome lights but I much prefer the Mt09r. The extra throw makes up for the bigger size. I also have the acebeam x45, it’s a very nice light. Feels great in hand and screams quality. The beam is a bit more floody than the Mt09r and has slightly less throw. Roughly same lumens. I would get the Mt09r due to the cheaper price.
Check out the astrolux mf01s. I love this light so much, I have 3 of them.

Yes, sounds like the DM70 or MT03 might be your best bets. There’s no info on the DM70 yet but as I’m sure you know people over the last 3.5 years seem pretty happy with the MT03 even thought it doesn’t reach the claimed output. There was an issue on the MT03 or MT09R when they were first introduced but It’s all been good since with buyers often commenting on the good quality. I’m not sure why people keep bringing the issue up especially when there are companies (1 prominent company in particular) that’s well known for making part substitutions without notice and doesn’t seem to get called out very often.

The MT03 is too floody for me but I’ve been looking at the MT09R for years but was hoping for an updated/upgraded version that is closer to the the ouput claim. It was pretty far off.

I’m interested to see more specs, reviews, and feedback on the DM70.

Very difficult to get genuine batteries here now. Scammers have almost completely taken over the 2 local online shopping platforms with a new scam that is very popular. They hijack a legitimate listing and double or quadruple the price (or more, I’ve seen 30Qs for $64 a pc.) and offer the item for preorder. Then I guess they order from a real seller and forward the item to their buyer and pocket the difference. The only problem is for some items there are no legitimate sellers left because of shortages (ie VTC6s) I really knew better but took a chance on the VTC6s because the “seller” was a really good liar and I needed the cells. Life can be interesting sometimes in third world countries.

Edit: I also very much like my MF01S and it might be a good choice as it seems to meet your needs except for claimed lumens and it has SST20s. No handle but it has tripod mount.

Look at lumintop GT3 in NW, I’m owner of one and it’s a good choice, for nice beam and tint and good price with coupon, recommended.

Thanks for this useful info, by the way, the Mt09r is the (slightly) higher price EDIT: I see now you meant “cheaper than the acebeam” not the MT03.

Do you know why does the MT09R have more throw than MT03?

Thanks, I’m still a bit confused about the current MT09R: The “bad chip if you did spring bypasses” issue has been corrected? And the “under spec output” issue still exists?

Thanks! I remember seeing this a long while ago and forgot about it. Can you say how close is the output to mfg specs?

I need to look closely at this. Not sure about Lumintop quality I only had a small light from them and is was defective. But both Haikelite and Amutorch seem to have quite a few issues overall. I’m sure you can get a good one but maybe Lumintop is less of a crapshoot.

I see Neal has it also, but the new arrivals coupon doesn’t work on it. I’ll need look around for the best deal, where did you get yours?.

Hey friend, Lumintop for me is much more better of Haikelite or Amutorch and especially the GT3 ; i’ve bought @ Bangg….,it is the only NW torch in which the power is equal to the CW and output is close to specs. Cheers.

I would email Neal for his best price on the GT3, see what he says. Says same driver as the Haikelite's - TA's. Also says Narsil in some places, and Anduril in others - dunno.

I never heard or read about a issue with spring bypasses but there was a substitution made at 1 point with them using a Chinese made component. (FET?) Apparently it was corrected as I’ve heard nothing about it for years except folks bringing up the original occurrence.

According to reviews and feedback I’ve read the MT03 output is around 15% lower then the claim and more then that for the MT09R. Supposedly a spring bypass gets them closer but they still doesn’t meet the 21000 and 25000 claims.

Great idea thanks! I just messaged him. Banggood has the NW but not the Desert Tan. I’ll check around for a discount code there too.

About the firmware… I read this on 1lumens review:
“Update: the new batch of Lumintop GT3 flashlights will include a lanyard and run on Anduril firmware instead of NarsilM”

And it’s pretty close to Mfg lumen claims: He measured 16,267lm @start on turbo, and it stays around 15,000lm for about the first a minute and a half before severely dropping…

Thanks for everyone’s input here.

Currently I’m on the fence between GT3 or X45 but I’m leaning towards the Acebeam.

I’ll need a new set of cells for this and I noticed the Acebeam includes the cells, if I deduct the cost of 4 new cells it will actually only be slightly more than the others. But it’s is kind of a different beast, with the huge head and no ramping. I’m curious what the advantage is of the much larger head compared to the Haikelites & GT3.

I also looked at a graph in 1lumen’s review where the X45 had higher overall output and less drop on turbo compared to the GT3. Also the turbo output was measured at 17,972lm and the Mfg rating is 18,000lm.

Following since I’m looking for a similar light

I’m still set on the Acebeam X45, but haven’t bought it yet… however the Astrolux EC06 has now come into play, very much worth a look!

Amutorch dm70 is the most powerful of all 4 flashlights . however, the mt09r has the most thermal mass and has the best range.
but remember ui DM70 he is very simple and handicapped.