Ooof… that Speras brand is flying a little too close to the sun with that price.

Speras are expensive lights, and I mentioned the L21B because that light does everything performance-wise (and more so) as the T3R, but at over 1/2 the price. Same buck driver, 21700, nearly identical throw, etc. If you dont need the Speras added features, I see no reason to get it over the Convoy.

Yeah, but let’s not forget they have 5 years of warranty.

That’s a bit expensive on their side.

hi

why 3.6? as far as i know should be 3.7v for standart li-ion

not that it would make any significant difference in overall calculation. but i`m always ready to learn and chance are that mentionin 3.6v you know something that i dont know 

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to TS. like conclustion about Speras. that is brave to compare it with another brand model in overall. usually manufacturers are damn unhappy when reviewer mentions another similar model.

Hi ChibiM

I really enjoyed the Gearlight s1000 review.

Looks like the only thing missing from the beam shot comparison, is the MicroFire Falcon H8

ChibiM wrote:

Gearlight S1000

best sold Amazon light?

https://1lumen.com/review/gearlight-s1000/

Useful reviews and congrats on reaching 350!

Just had a flick through the ‘best sold Amazon light’ and saw this comment under the PWM section:
“ I can’t quantify Hz figures, but using the Opple Lightmaster Pro’s “flicker” function, it gives an idea of the severity of the PWM duty-cycle in Low and Medium modes”.

It’s easy enough to work out the Hz from the images you provided, for med mode there’s roughly 13 pulses in 24 milliseconds which is (13/24)*1000= 541 in a second, so 541Hz.
Low mode is about 6 in 23ms which is about 260Hz.

I’ve had toooo many conversations with people about how amazing this kind of light is, which is fine as i get it’s a lot better than what they’re used to, but also toooo many times i’ve hit a wall in trying to explain they’re not as good as the marketing suggests so the actual measured figures will come in handy. Well, assuming i can get past the ‘but it lights up the side of a mountain’ block…

Marc E wrote:

ChibiM wrote:

Gearlight S1000

best sold Amazon light?

https://1lumen.com/review/gearlight-s1000/

Useful reviews and congrats on reaching 350!

Just had a flick through the ‘best sold Amazon light’ and saw this comment under the PWM section:
“ I can’t quantify Hz figures, but using the Opple Lightmaster Pro’s “flicker” function, it gives an idea of the severity of the PWM duty-cycle in Low and Medium modes”.

It’s easy enough to work out the Hz from the images you provided, for med mode there’s roughly 13 pulses in 24 milliseconds which is (13/24)*1000= 541 in a second, so 541Hz.
Low mode is about 6 in 23ms which is about 260Hz.

I’ve had toooo many conversations with people about how amazing this kind of light is, which is fine as i get it’s a lot better than what they’re used to, but also toooo many times i’ve hit a wall in trying to explain they’re not as good as the marketing suggests so the actual measured figures will come in handy. Well, assuming i can get past the ‘but it lights up the side of a mountain’ block…

Awesome. Thanks for the explanation on Hz. Yah, it’s a tricky thing. If all someone is used to are cheap light, it’s hard to explain a good light without actually comparing the two.

Just noticed in the Weltool 4 Pro review, that the Astrolux WP3/Mateminco FW1 is the only side button LEP. All the others have a tail-cap button. Don’t know how I never noticed that.

Still debating between the Mateminco FW1 vs the FW2. Been wanting a pocket thrower, but the FW1 is so damn filthy. I guess I would theoretically get more use out of the FW2, but I’m still torn.

Thanks for testing the TN36 Limited. I chose this light early in my flashlight refresh cycle (September ‘21) based on its apparent output stability and runtimes. I believe we share a similar philosophy about buying properly tested lights and the difficulty finding reputable reviews with runtime and thermal info has bugged me since then. This review was very helpful and confirmed my initial conclusion while giving me much more reliable and comparable results. I really appreciate the work 1lumen does, it’s an invaluable resource.

ChibiM wrote:

Another video

LEP vs LED

5,000 lumens vs 500 lumens

 

Very VERY awesome video ChibiM. What were your personal thoughts from the first person user perspective while doing this comparison? What did each light make you feel and get a sense of visually from where you were standing?

This is an absolute essential video. I don’t have enough throwers to do one. But the community needs a video so people can see what people mean at every level when they say “this a thrower”. Apparently throwers can range from 300 meters to 3000. And your video is one of the best I’ve seen at helping to visually understand the difference of something wildy different, but with the same candela. I think doing a comparison where Osrams, SBT90’s, Xhp, SST20, BM35A, Xpl-Hi are all in different hosts from big to small, thats pretty vital too. I know you can find stuff sparsely and scattered, but a clean cut of an SBT90 from the MC13 and KR1 all the way to the MF05. And also from close to far range so one can understand the real world usability and beam profiles, just isn’t out there.

Totally not saying you have to do it, just saying it’s something you have to mostly pay to learn right now. I just got my first LEP (Astrolux WP4), and I did end up actually loving it. And for more reasons than I expected. I hoped for certain things, and did end up getting them, which was very nice. For instance. I really wanted the Astrolux WP3/Mateminco FW1 because it has killer throw. But I was worried that it would only be fun to point at really far things. Now I still don’t have one, but I’m pretty sure I’m right, to an extent. Actually, playing with it like a lightsaber would probably be awesome too, but I digress. One thing I was worried about was a beam so tight that you needed to point it at things 500-600 yards plus to enjoy. That is probably the WP3. For instance, when you hit the tower with the Weltool, the size is about what I imagine my WP4 would look like if that tower were 200-300 yards closer. So obviously I lose throw, but end up having more usability from the user perspective at closer, yet still long ranges. I can point my smaller LEP at a person 30 feet away, and light up from their head to their waist just about. Thats actually pretty awesome. It’s like a real spotlight but in your hand. Doing a sweeping search of things at 30-40ft range is actually pretty great too. You can control exactly where you want the light to go. Point is, I may still want a 3000 meter thrower LEP, but I know that the more usability will really be in the 1200-1300 meter range LEP’s. Similar to how the 700 yard SBT90’s are more usable for closer throwing ranges.

At this point, I honestly already lost the thread of my first point, but lets see if I can tie it all up.

You video was FKN awesome and extremely enlightening. We need more content like that, because getting a thorough visual of how each emitter will behave in different hosts in real-world use is the ultimate thrower comparison content. Because from what I’ve paid to learn so far, all throwers have something to offer at different levels. And with throwers, the name of the game is compromise, Farther equals narrower, and wider equals less intense. So why not have all this documented and easily reference-able. I still have yet to get into the High CRI throwers, but knowing how they work compared to other throwers for instance, would be a good way to help decide what may work well for what different people need. I still don’t think I’ve seen the perfect video breaking all this down. But I know if it were to exist, it would look a lot like your video. So Thank you and very nice job helping us feel the differences of two very different throwers that “throw” the same.

Sirstinky wrote:

Speras are expensive lights, and I mentioned the L21B because that light does everything performance-wise (and more so) as the T3R, but at over 1/2 the price. Same buck driver, 21700, nearly identical throw, etc. If you dont need the Speras added features, I see no reason to get it over the Convoy.

Yes, if you’re not a hunter then I see no reason to get the T3R. The T3R is better suited on a rifle with its UI and lossless remote switch, unlike Convoy’s where you get a heavy output loss.

The L21B didn’t get onboard charging because I’m the one who it was built for, I wanted to sell it in my hunting store with various driver/LED combos.