Have just received a Lumintop GT Nano Pro from Lumintop Store at Ali.
WTF, long press for OFF...
Have anybody else receved this crippled light?
Well Lumintop, changing Hardware and selling under same Name, i will think twice to buy Lights in future from this Brand.
Wow. Sounds like someone robbed your house.
I like long press off. It leaves short press for other things. Who said everyone has to hate long press off? Is that a rule?
But then I don't like ramping either. I want to know that if I click X times on a fresh battery I'll have exactly Y hours of runtime. That's important in some applications, and I find ramping is never important. That's generally easier to achieve with short presses in the main UI than with holds, even if it's not ramping.
I'll give you that if they changed the UI without saying so that's kind of irritating, but did they? I see two listings. One clearly says it has Narsil. The other clearly is their own UI and clearly says "press and hold for 1 second
for OFF."
Of course different people like different things, and what's great is that they seem to offer different things!
Since the UI is mentioned clearly on their page, you cant blame them for your dissatisfaction.
Yes, guilty of not reading the complete description and last period in Ali.
Stupid from me after reading GT Nano PRO reviews to expect to receive the same Item when the product Name is the same.
Did not expect such behavior from Lumintop.
It’s the same with the Frog.
I believe they both previously used Narsil as the UI. But the revised v2 versions use an inferior UI with some very poor design choices. Luckily I spotted this on the listing before buying, as all the reviews you see have mention of the original Narsil UI.
Fair point that it would have helped if they'd used a modified model name. That said, I don't know, Convoy S2+ is sold with a million configurations, but it's still called a convoy S2+. They do tend to point out the main differences in the product listing title though or have them selectable as options. It does happen though that many products change things without notice. At least it was in the description. It could have been better, but could have been worse.
You can file a dispute on aliexpress within I think 14 days, or maybe 7. They go by description, so you'd have to make the case that the name contradicted the other details in the description. Could be worth a shot.
sorry for your unhappy discovery…
I totally understand your disappointment, that the version you bought has the new UI
just file a dispute and get a refund…
here is a review that says:
“Note: this is the first version, running NarsilM firmware. There is a newer version using a different firmware. Beware.”
If you are complaining about the long press off, I completely understand. It’s just wrong. Kind of like having the brake petal on the right and the gas petal on the left.
That's your opinion. I wrote an objective reason for how it actually reduces functionality. But it does seem most people like "smooooooth" more than deterministic, and I can get that too for some uses, YOUR uses clearly, and that's great for you. The new UI looks great to me.
To add something meaningful though, their thermal description is interesting. It may let the light run hotter compared to reviews of the original, but that's not clear.
So.. a thought, and this may even exist as I haven't yet caught up with all the features on Narsil and anduril, but if a light could start out in short-click-to-advance and then after some timeout switch to short click for off, that could be fine to me.
Then to change modes, you could have another time-out, where first short click is off, but another short click within one second brings it on, advances one mode, and re-enables the short-click-to advance timeout. So first click is off, and further clicks bring it back on and advance modes. Or a medium click could unlock mode advance. I really don't like relying on medium clicks during operation because I have to commit my hands to it for longer at once, but it could work. I know Narsil used some timeout tricks similar to this, so maybe it does it.
Is this better than long click off? Not really, but (the first version) is close enough to equal to me, in that it's still possible deterministically select a mode level on startup and to deterministically change modes, all without visual/mental feedback. I can't even always see the mode changes well when I need to do these operations for daylight use. It still has the down side that when operating during unstable conditions it's easy to accidentally click it off, but I could accept that.
Anyway, other than this, I can't see how you can get deterministic mode (current/runtime) selection without visual feedback using short-click off. And anything that can't have that, is certainly not universally "right." I'm not sure a short click off interface like I describe could sell well to the general public. It's far harder to understand than long-click off.