Some chinese fixed knives have quality like SRM/Enlan... ???

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Some chinese fixed knives have quality like SRM/Enlan... ???

I show some of fixed knives that i've seen, they can be crap/rubbish (or not) but pehaps it can a good budget deal.

I'm no speaking of chinese fake knives, i speak about chinese brand like navy etc (they do not make fakes but copies).

1) http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/902172/211290521-500648079/NEW-ARRIVA...

With this review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ivVfpN2F3Y

2) http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/502062823-New-Sharp-Survival-Bowie-...

3) http://www.tinydeal.com/total-300mm-12-steel-blade-edge-sharp-knife-long...

With this review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ0fv2XUC6o&feature=related

 

All from columbia SR that produce copies but not fakes (like ganzo and navy).

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For example, this is a fake (not copy) extrema ratio knife but the blade is 8Cr13Mov
like Enlan ad SRM. How can be the price so cheap?

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/536252080-New-EXTREMA-RATIO-Surviva...

 

Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYnpZyizLA

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Trouble is you have no real guarantee that anything about the knife really is what they say it is. The steel could just as well be 440 A B C ? or whatever they use for railroad tracks in China …

edit: 7CR13MOV @ http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/536241993-HOT-EXTREMA-RATIO-TIGER-STRIPE-FIXED-BLADE-KNIFE-HUNTING-KNIFE-OUTDOOR-SURVIVAL-KNIVES-5MM-BLADE-FREE-wholesalers.html

and here it’s +1 8Cr13Mov @ http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/536252080-New-EXTREMA-RATIO-Survival-Bowie-Full-Tang-military-Hunting-Knife-ER06-freeshipping-wholesalers.html

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XGK-Saturn-5 wrote:
Trouble is you have no real guarantee that anything about the knife really is what they say it is. The steel could just as well be 440 A B C ? or whatever they use for railroad tracks in China …

edit: 7CR13MOV @ http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/536241993-HOT-EXTREMA-RATIO-TIGER-STRIPE-FIXED-BLADE-KNIFE-HUNTING-KNIFE-OUTDOOR-SURVIVAL-KNIVES-5MM-BLADE-FREE-wholesalers.html

and here it’s +1 8Cr13Mov @ http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/536252080-New-EXTREMA-RATIO-Survival-Bowie-Full-Tang-military-Hunting-Knife-ER06-freeshipping-wholesalers.html

LOL @ that knife saying ‘made in Italy’ on the blade!

I’d suggest this, it’s available on Aliexpress if you search Bear Grylls compact FIXED BLADE

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Trouble is you have no real guarantee that anything about the knife really is what they say it is. The steel could just as well be 440 A B C ? or whatever they use for railroad tracks in China …

edit: 7CR13MOV @ http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/536241993-HOT-EXTREMA-RATIO-TIGER-STRIPE-FIXED-BLADE-KNIFE-HUNTING-KNIFE-OUTDOOR-SURVIVAL-KNIVES-5MM-BLADE-FREE-wholesalers.html

and here it’s +1 8Cr13Mov @ http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/536252080-New-EXTREMA-RATIO-Survival-Bowie-Full-Tang-military-Hunting-Knife-ER06-freeshipping-wholesalers.html

LOL @ that knife saying ‘made in Italy’ on the blade!

I’d suggest this, it’s available on Aliexpress if you search Bear Grylls compact FIXED BLADE

Would that be a genuine (as in made in the far east under the name Gerber) product or a clone/copy/fake/replica of said product? There are fakes also of the bailey s4 (with bear grylls written on the blade and partially serrated edge) which is also mentioned in the post linked to by you, that goes for 30-40 usd on aliexp with some offerings said to be ats-34 and others claiming aus-8. I heard the real bailey s4 used to go for over 300 GBP when it was available.

edit. Is it only me who instantly think “Nut-head” when I see a paracord-bracelet-laden wrist holding a knife in a forum thread?

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The new knives that BG puts his name to are the Gerber ones and are not in anyway related to past associations. I believe that Gerber source all the present BG line out to China and with careful shopping I think you will end up with the genuine product direct from manufacturer, I have put my money on it but at that price it doesn’t really matter. The steel will almost certainly be a Chinese steel, nothing at that price will import western steels to use and then ship back out.

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No you are not alone, but he didn't invent them. To be a real "Nut-head" you have to Duracoat your Paracord. (more nice parodies 1 ,2 )

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The new knives that BG puts his name to are the Gerber ones and are not in anyway related to past associations. I believe that Gerber source all the present BG line out to China and with careful shopping I think you will end up with the genuine product direct from manufacturer, I have put my money on it but at that price it doesn’t really matter. The steel will almost certainly be a Chinese steel, nothing at that price will import western steels to use and then ship back out.

Yes I just had that revelation when looking at Gerbers webpage for this particular knife:
http://www.gerbergear.com/Survival/Knives/Bear-Grylls-Compact-Fixed-Blad...
7Cr17Mov for USD 43 MSRP.

Hmmm or for 18 bucks here (no affiliation of any sort ofc): http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/575250941-BEAR-GRYLLS-COMPACT-FIXED-BLADE-CLIP-SHEATH-SURVIVAL-KNIFE-GERBER-FREE-SHIPPING-wholesalers.html

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The only difference I can see is look where the R ends, where Gerber is written on the blade, they differ slightly….

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I have a few of these knifes, the CRKT ones seems to be pretty good. The only issue is that it is not easy to flick them out even after playing and lubing the pivot. Some are better than others. Like budgetlights, they might even come with light scratches or anodisation misses due to NIL QC which is expected. I guess it’s like super budgetlights, one cannot trust the descriptions at all. Smile

You just buy the copies for light and rough use, and for collection on a budget. I mean most of us don’t have and don’t want to spend several thousands of dollars to collect a whole set of Extrema Ratio/benchmade/Gerber/Boker/Buck knives. However we might have 30 of these copy knifes and maybe 5 authentic ones. For example, I have authentic Fenix lights and also a copy Fenix light.

If you are good/fast in sharpening, i guess no issue even if they are using 3Cr13mov quality. Heck they might not even be stainless and just a low-end tool steel that they use in cheap MIC $5 screwdriver sets. Remember, a screwdriver set costs $5 and a comparatively big knife like this costs $8 shipped w registered? Big Smile

I mean folks use the CRKT-14ZSF and 13ZER and other knives with AUS-4. Like a copy TK35 or copy SWM TC40S which has PWM and not driven as well and worse threading etc.

You just don’t bring them to camping or a hunting trip and rely on them for survival, of course. Same thing i would not bring a single Small Sun/Ultrafire light for trekking. I’d have a proven Jetbeam and yet another SWM for “backup’s backup”. No assumptions and nature won’t be kind. Smile

Some are good enough for 99% of our uses.

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Of course the Sebenza copy caused a ripple. If you go to CPF, of course people won’t be impressed with copy lights and even stuff like a TF X100. That said i’d not mind paying $30 for one heh heh, but it’s still too ex.

Just sharing my recent searches, not an expert here, i just started on this. Smile

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Instead of buying a Chinese one, why don’t you just buy a mora?

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I like the Elk Ridge knife I recently purchased. Link It is sharp, dont ask me how I know…. :~

Link to elk ridge search

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Any idea about what that reviewer is saying about the China sebenza in a language I don’t understand?

Natsuiro – I have opened cans of food a triflex mora when I had forgot to bring an opener and it did not break or bend.

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XGK-Saturn-5 wrote:
Any idea about what that reviewer is saying about the China sebenza in a language I don’t understand?

Natsuiro – I have opened cans of food a triflex mora when I had forgot to bring an opener and it did not break or bend.

It probably is not D2 steel, but pretty close to it. Not too bad a steel. Currently it is at 44 dollars shipped with stainless steel handle, and 55 shipped with a Ti handle and stonewashed blade (can’t confirm if it’s really even Ti coated). Still somewhat expensive. You can get a Kershaw Junkyard Dog 2.2 with composite D2 + 14C28N blade for 83 bucks and a Benchmade bone collector D2 for $100.

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I like the Elk Ridge knife I recently purchased. Link It is sharp, dont ask me how I know…. :~

Link to elk ridge search

I really don’t like the hole in the blade, I’m sure straight forward tasks are OK but it looks like it will significantly weaken the blade? I have ordered a different Elk Ridge tho so I look forward to seeing how they compare to other makes.

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The YStarts look classical. If only Isti had more positive things to report on the sheath... I would have already ordered it.

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Jeansy wrote:
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I like the Elk Ridge knife I recently purchased. Link It is sharp, dont ask me how I know…. :~

Link to elk ridge search

I really don’t like the hole in the blade, I’m sure straight forward tasks are OK but it looks like it will significantly weaken the blade? I have ordered a different Elk Ridge tho so I look forward to seeing how they compare to other makes.


I like the hole in the blade myself I think it looks “tacticool” :bigsmile: . Definately understand your point though. Hopefully it will hold up to skinning some wild animals this hunting season! I carry multiple knives most of the time (along with multiple flashlights and a pistol, rifle or shotgun)

SEPTEMBER 1st is the opening day of hunting season in Texas!!!! Maybe have to skin out some Doves….. J)

Now I just need a knife sharpener….. Like those books sharpening knives for dummies.

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The YStarts look classical. If only Isti had more positive things to report on the sheath… I would have already ordered it.


That is a good looking knife there vectrex. Man I hate this forum!!!! budget = broke apt323
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Vectrex wrote:

The YStarts look classical. If only Isti had more positive things to report on the sheath… I would have already ordered it.

The sheat shouldn’t keep you back from buying that awesome Y-start knife.
There is nothing wrong with the sheat (it works well, it even has a drain hole).
It’s only not as nice looking as the knife itself (which is excellent).

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Thanks for the update... paypal trigger ready. Wink

Argh, the nice 30% off time is over.... it was $26.60 now back to $38.

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XGK-Saturn-5 wrote:
Any idea about what that reviewer is saying about the China sebenza in a language I don’t understand?

Natsuiro – I have opened cans of food a triflex mora when I had forgot to bring an opener and it did not break or bend.

Hej!

How much do a moras cost in Sweden? Are they much cheaper than buying them in America?

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Vectrex wrote:

Thanks for the update… paypal trigger ready. Wink

Argh, the nice 30% off time is over…. it was $26.60 now back to $38.

Try to persuade the seller to extend the discount time. At that price I would buy more of them too.

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I think 26$ is a good price for that knife, aus8a is a good steel and it’s good looking, perhaps for me too small (it has the size of many of my folder knives). 38$ is a little too expensive perhaps.

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How many folders do you have with 4.44” (113 mm) blade?

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How many folders do you have with 4.44” (113 mm) blade?

I’m talking about full length: 8.97” (228 mm).
Many of my folders have 22 cm. three that i can think now even 24 cm. Perhaps the fixed knife has a bit more blade and a bit less handle then but full length is very similar to some of my folders.
For a fixed i like 18-20 cm blade better but the ystart is a beautiful piece and for 26$… can be interesting.

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I see. Do you prefer large folders because you have large hands or because of the additional blade length?

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I see. Do you prefer large folders because you have large hands or because of the additional blade length?

Well, i don’t think that i have large hands but it’s true that almost all chinese budget knives (enlan EL, ganzo etc) have a bit little handle for me (by the way fake chinese knives have bigger handles). I like blades with good size. For a blade folder between 9.5 cm and 11.5 cm i think it’s a good size for standard big folder (Espada XL, rajah II etc are another world).

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I feel the same way. The SRM /Enlan line-up has a huge gap between the small 700s/Ms and the (now extinct)-900s /  most Ls. The L03-2 and L02 being two of the few exceptions. The smalls are too small for my hands for a full grip and the 900/Ls are too large to EDC. I demand more 18cm knives... and I want them now. Wink

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An 800 series, ideal size for my hand too…but a disaster for my wallet.
If only Enlan had made the SRM 710 clone 1 cm longer…and without musical notes engraving.

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Natsuiro wrote:

Hej!

How much do a moras cost in Sweden? Are they much cheaper than buying them in America?

A Mora 2000 which is a pretty nice knife is around $23 here.
If you want to check more models here is a link to a price watch site with the lowest prices on each model
http://www.prisjakt.nu/kategori.php?k=836#rparams=l=s92800502 1 Swedish krona ~ 0.15 USD

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