Well that is straight forward enough lol thanks!
If your barn has electricity, you could rig a remote control from your house and put as many floodlights around the barn to be able to light up whatever is near it from the safe distance of your home…
Like this one that has 200 mts range… $15 free shipping
https://www.ebay.com/i/162323923072?chn=ps&dispItem=1
I did not have the first version in my hands so I have no comparison. I was surprised by the bad feedback about the switch after I got my flashlight. Works perfectly. I have a comparison to other flashlights and in my opinion it works better than in TC20 and Q8.
For the most part the barn distance was used as an example for the flashlight performance in general, although sometimes I’d want to beam out to it, I also want to beam out all around the adjourning fields, treelines etc., which the fixed floodlights wouldn’t do.
The barn does have electric however since the wiring is ran all the way from the house and is older we keep the circuit off at the house panel, and only turn it on when needed on rare occasion.
Thanks for the link on the remote, I have several of those (short range version) indoors on various lamps, didn’t know they made a long range one, that’s pretty cool!
my UT02 works great no switch problems in fact i was blown away by how bright this light is for the money
The UT02 switch has a little tiny metal cup that is taped to the top of the switch pcb board. Sometimes that cup flattens out, and it will not make contact. Sometimes the tape fails to hold the metal cup in place and you loose switch contact. Or you mod like 15 of these UT02’s like I have and lose the tiny little metal cup. :person_facepalming:
Then you replace the stock UT02 switch with Old reliable…plunger type momentary e-switch.
So yes the stock UT02 switch can fail and have. I bought 4 of them just before Christmas when I can get them really cheap, and they all had the same switch. Not to worry though these plunger type switches can be found and changed out IF you have a failure. http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=25_83&product_id=430
Working on getting some Lighted Plunger Type e-switches for replacements. I love the UT02 for modding, specially when they can be had for like $30.00! I sell a lot of modded UT02 Torches. 
Just saying….
That is an awesome mod, thanks for posting that KawiBoy 
Would you happen to know if the plunger style switch from an L6 would fit as I have a spare one of those?
The switch pocket measures 11.4mm in diameter in my UT02 and from memory the L6 switch pcb measures 12mm and has the anti rotate knob that’s in the UT02 pocket, I think, so you should be able to remove .600mm off the diameter to fit, dunno never tried it, it’s worht the shot, never had a spare L6 switch to try out. I like the notion, I think the L6 plunger is a little taller (box type plunger) then the normal stamped metal cover momentary switch type plunger.
Regardless you would need to purchase/rob/mod the right size switch boot, because of going from the diaphragm type low profile switch of the UT02 :confounded: to a (slightly taller) plunger type switch, savvy?
Let the adventure begin! 
Actually, this kind of setup is precisely meant for “tactical” use.
You’re probably thinking of clicking it on then flicking through the modes with the side-switch.
What you’re supposed to do is select the mode you want (eg, “turbo”), turn it off, then use momentary-on to flash’n’dash, else click it full-on then off. “Set it and forget it.”
Zero chance of accidentally changing modes with a scratchy tailswitch or not delaying enough between on/off/on cycles.
In practice, the side-switch would only be used to change modes, and be used much more infrequently than the tailswitch, especially if a forward-clicky (momentary-on).
My statement was referring to a side switch ONLY light, not a dual switch like the Nitecore:
“I agree a side switch is harder to find in the dark, so those are out for a ”tactical” (bump in the night) critical situation/emergency light”
However…
I guess it might work for some people, but “what you’re supposed to do” just doesn’t work for me for a “tactical” light. (bump in the night / SHTF light)
To me “Set it and forget it” is not tactical because I’ll “Forget to set it” :person_facepalming:
I have quite a few dual switch lights with mode memory, and of course I can “set” them to turn on at high with the tail switch via last mode used, but to me those aren’t tactical. IMO a tactical light should start at a very bright level regardless of what mode you used last. (meaning NO memory on tail switch)
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There have been a few dual switch lights with forward tail clicky that work this way, I have two: UltraFire C20 and SmallSun ZY-T13 (both long discontinued)
Unfortunately most dual switch “Tactical” lights today have mode memory on the tail switch, (like the P30) so IMO those aren’t really tactical.
A good example of a well thought out truly tactical UI are the ones used in the Klarus XT11GT or Acebeam L16 / L30.
The Acebeam L-series UI creates two flashlights in one: a single-mode forward tail switch light with no memory and disabled side switch, and a full-featured side switch light with shortcuts and memory. The Klarus has a user selectable “Advanced Tactical Setting” with instant Turbo or Strobe at the tail and disabled side switch.
I could go on and on about this, but to avoid further derailment I’ll stop here! 
Aha. Thought youse were still talking about the P30.
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I’m now considering a new entrant to this category (although a lower mfg. rating for throw range)
The Manker U22
It’s in the size class of the DS1, slightly longer, but uses 21700…
Its appearance and shape is a scaled-down version of the UT02
Features:
- Emitter: CREE XHP35 HI LED (NW option avail.)
- Maximum output: 1500 lumens
- With Type-C USB Charging function
- Power by 1x 21700 battery
- Maximum beam intensity: 65000cd
- Maximum beam distance: 509meters
- Dimensions: 140mm (length) x 51mm (head)
Can’t say I love the UI, but all things considered I could probably live with it.
TBH I think the 21700 tube size will be nicer than the 26650, I’ve always felt the 32-33mm tubes were too thick, but live with it for the capacity of 26650. This certainly has a more balanced looking shape than the D1S, it’s a great looking light, a thin SS bezel would have been icing on the cake. I don’t have any Manker lights but I’ve read a few claims that they’re well built and reliable.
Cost of the U22 is $56 (including a battery) which puts it at about $46 in comparison to the others that don’t include a battery (considering that a good 21700 is around $10) It seems to check all my boxes except the “rated” throw range, although the rated max lumem output is slightly higher than the UT02. All things considered I’m wondering now if this will have enough range to satisfy my needs.
U22 is really close to my dream light, except for that pesky throw.
I’m waiting for reviews, hope they clear things up. I suggest that you do the same.
Size comparison between the Manker U22 and U21 (U21 is same size as Utorch UT02)
(photo from skylumen.com)
Note that U21 is a bit closer to the camera, so size difference will be a little smaller.
Quick pixel counting shows the head diameter of U22 being 49 mm, not 51.
I think it’s centered with the U22 making the U21 slightly closer yes, I think it’s a pretty good comparison photo, but I agree how that can make a considerable visual difference in a photo.
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Hmmm, shows 51mm in the manufacture specs. You’re suggesting their listed dimensions are incorrect? I suppose it’s a possibility but less likely for them.
(I assume you’re taking in to account the unequal distance you noted above)
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The thing I really liked about the D1S is it’s smaller than the other 3 in my list, but the tube looked too thin and short compared to its head, creating an “unbalanced” look to it. Now this U22 comes in at roughly the same size, slightly longer yet still shorter than the others, and has a much more balanced look to it, I liked the shape of the UT02 best, so for me U22 is very appealing.
I agree! And good point to wait. Yes, hopefully we will see some reviews soon.
No, I don’t correct for uneven distance but quantify what effect does the unevenness have. Since on the comparison image U22 looks like 49 mm, but we know it has 51 - it must be about 4% larger in reality than the picture shows. Not much.
It’s nearly the same light.
There are some differences in switch. There are differences in output (though that changes batch-to-batch too). There may be others I don’t know about.
beam0: Thanks for starting this throw thread. Stumbled across this from you linking to this from the Emisar D1/D1S thread. I already bought the Emisar D1S last night, but I can always add a third thrower in the future. Sounds like the UT02 is a good one to get
On another note, I have been struggling to work what the measured throw distance is on the Convoy C8 Clear. Does anyone know?
Good to hear my thread is helpful!
You know these really are all good compact (to medium size) throwers, it depends on what your needs are, some are larger than others, have side switch, XHP35 HI for higher output, etc. etc.
Right now I’m leaning towards the Manker U22 (not on the list, see post #83 above) Throw specs are less than the ones in the OP but it’s slightly smaller (except for the D1s) I also like that it uses 21700 and has a side switch, XHP35 HI LED 1500lm max, in throw distance it should be on par with (if not slightly out throw) a FET driven C8.
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A Convoy C8 XP-L HI won’t throw nearly as much as any of the lights in my list in the OP, a C8’s reflector is too small in comparison.
Here’s a thread on C8 XP-L HI throw, it’s not specific for the clear version but any stock Convoy C8 with XP-L HI should throw same as the clear since they’re all the same driver. The clear has the Biscotti firmware but the driver power is the same as the regular color Convoy C8’s… x/7135
With a FET/ DD driver mod the Convoy will throw a lot farther than a stock 8×7135, but I still think it would be < 5000m.
The Sofirn C8T is rated for 500m, because it’s FET driven (stock) it will out throw a stock Convoy
The Clear Convoy is real pretty, but if your’re looking for the best throw from a stock C8 (and you’re not going to mod with a FET driver) then get the Sofirn C8T
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Also have you seen the new redesigned Convoy C8 (Desert Tan)? (also has Biscotti firmware)