I like this clip design on relatively straight bodied lights, but I think it’s going to be hard to get this to look and work well on this light. Adding a subtle curve to the entire clip seems like it would add a lot complexity to the production.
I’m not fussed with how deep the clip goes, my primary issue would be the inner diameter of the bend on the deep carry clip is too small and tight to easily allow it to go over various pocket materials, like denim or multiple cotton layers like on some track pants.
The difference between the Olight deep carry clip and the FW3A deep carry clip is very apparent. It’d be a difference of maybe a single millimetre in the overall bend diameter but would allow material to nestle up to the top of the clip a lot easier instead of bunching up just below the folded part of the clip. The FW3A’s deep carry clip is just too narrow to be very easy to use, it always requires some fiddling to sit properly in pocket
If the opposing bends of each end were wider, the clip would allow material to enter the clip cavity much more easily.
This is near ideal. The slight curve might not be easy to produce but is worth a try. As others have said, the bend radii on the “deep-carry-portion” are critical. The first bend should be smooth as to not catch fabric, and the second ‘U’ bend should be at least ~0.5mm larger than a standard denim jean hem. Measurements I’ve made on a few different garments say 2.5mm internal bend DIA should be about sufficient. No less!
I don’t use clips. “If I can remove it.”
I would ask you to include (Attachments) in the packages a washer (retainer) (packing ring) for those of us who remove the clips.
It could be an option, as an accessory.
The included lanyard clip is almost like a washer.
Agree with the majority, not keen on double bends and a slightly deeper carry would be good.
I generally prefer no clip though. Rey provided us folk with a nice option with his Ti washers
I never use pocket clips. To me it just adds bulk and provides no function. Those Reylight TI rings look nice.
Can’t you just take the clip off? I think the spring on the inner tube takes up the slack so you can still tighten it down without the clip or a washer. I could be wrong though.
Will there potentially be a sbt90 led option in the future? I’ll buy this one most likely either way
Thank you! For this, I would love this design on my KR4 and when I order the KR1.:honestly it’s the only reason my fw3a gets equal pocket time as my kr4, because of the deep carry clip. Otherwise I’d probably solely carry the KR4
Agreed, again. And please consider making it a true deep carry.
Thank you Hank for everything you make and design.
Amazing! I only realized awesome 18650/21700/26650 lights existed a few months back, by that time the D1s was not on Hank’s site anymore (I didnt even know it existed until this thread) and the D1 was on discount (going out) but never “won my heart” enough to buy. After watching a couple videos of the D1s, I would L-O-V-E a version of that, especially in the KR1 format. I may just wait for that… maybe…
Btw - I have bought the D4sV2 and KR4 in the last 4 weeks, among other things, so the KR1 is still A consideration for me, seems very interesting though (would love just a little larger and more throw).
Any change for a D4S with the 5A driver?
The best clips is the one that comes with High End lights like BOSS, Oklahoma, Barrel flashlights
It must be fixed clip with screws .. 2 way clips is very weak and doesn’t hold the light in the place very well and they won’t hold the light if you want use it as headlamp either (if you want to use it with baseball cap)
If you use clip with screws ( l hope) then you need to put Premium quality screws otherwise just forget it!
Ehh I’ve never been a fan of those kinds of clips especially since I tend to depending on activity I might just remove clips and just have it on a lanyard while hiking or just a trail walk etc. Clips fixed with screws is a no go with me and depending on the materials you can have the threads ruined pretty quick.
There’s no way to make a clip with screws because it has to fit to the KRx host.
@Hank
Any chance we can get a 18350 tube that is compatible with the lanyard ring?
By far the best pocket clip I’ve ever used is b the Spyderco wire clip. Dunno why more knife and light manufacturers dont design their clip similarly. Very deep carry, secure, easy to clip on/remove, subtle, low profile so doesn’t get caught on or rub against things as easily when pocketed.
Isn’t as fancy as others but it just works so well. The geometry and tension are damn near perfect and a lot of other companies could learn from them in that regard.
Here is an idea for a marketing model:
I love the size of the D1
The KR1 also has a great design
How about making these basic external designs in which you can swap out the internals whenever new LEDs come out?
For many years, the surefire p60 was a standard and many folks made drop ins for them to upgrade performance.
What about selling a basic shell d1, KR1 and even k1 with internals that easily drop out and then selling drop ins as new leds come out?
I am thinking about something that anybody could drop in, not something that you have to do modding or soldering to switch out.
It seems like this would be a constant market as folks continually upgrade, And also a broader market for folks who are intimidated by modding a flashlight.
With what little I have seen around here, I can see folks buying every option trying each one.
Big problem with P60 designs is the poor thermal management. Removable/interchangeable means adding more junctions and contacts which thermally, and electrically, is poor conduction. Also the overall size would have to grow - big problem for the compact design trends here, adding complexity in manufacturing, resulting in higher costs. There's just some major downsides to doing it well. Maybe with some really creative engineering...