At what point does a flashlight stop being a flashlight?

I think that head diameter and weight are the determining criteria for larger items that have internal battery.

Acebeam X65: Internal battery, 4.25 inch head diameter, almost 3 pounds. This is near the upper end of what could reasonably be called a flashlight.

XeVision XV-LX70 HID: Internal battery, 4.6 inch head diameter, almost 5 pounds. This is too heavy to be a flashlight. I would call it a hand held internal battery HID light.

Lemax Superpower: Internal battery, 8.6 inch head diameter, 8 pounds. Definitely not a flashlight. I would call it a very large hand held internal battery HID light.

4.5 inch head and under, four pounds and under, could be called a Flashlight, in my estimation.

Cool :slight_smile:
I guess you could call those searchlights, since there isn’t any kind of size or weight or power limits on searchlights.

I also think that the diameter has a lot to do with something being a flaslight or not, there is some point where big is just too big.
It’s not a clear line though, I think it’s a gray area since it’s not logical to say that (for example) 110mm is a flashlight, but 110.1mm isn’t a flashlight.

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I say any flashlight not approved by BLF is no flashlight at all …it’s just junk … and a flashlight stops being a flashlight when you chock your rear wheel or use it to beat someone senseless .
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Yes, yes… when you utilize your flashlight to WHAK! some idjit upside the head? Scien-tech-nically and all, it is referred to as a “lateral cranial impact enhancer”.

chortle

where I live we call flashlights as pocketlights, (I think Germans and Swedes do as well)…Could that be a little indicator :confounded:

When the battery is dead!

Edit: Oh, Muto had the same idea :slight_smile:

I think when the enegy sorce is not electricity.
Uranium is good alternative for example. :sunglasses:
Atomic flashlight or just A light. Next level is H light.

For me it has to do with ergos, design function and how practical it is.

A diffuser-cone flashlight that can’t tail stand without falling over is not a lantern since it can’t reliably function as such.

A detachable headlamp design that can’t be hand held or body-mounted in a practical fashion is still primarily a headlamp.

…or is a headlamp just a specific kind of flashlight…?

I would not consider a lantern with that kind of attachment a flashlight. In terms of ergos, design and practicality… that is still more effective as a lantern than a flashlight.

FWIW those lantern “reflectors” block and absorb more lumens than they reflect. I bought one for my UCO lantern… but I never even pack it, its so useless.

Depends… again on design ergos and practicality. If a detach-able headlamp design can not be hand held, body mounted, weapon mounted in a “practical fashion”, its still a headlamp in my book.

IMHO this is a POU discussion as much as physical design / semantics.

An SRK with a large diffuser cone would absolutely be a 50/50 crossover design thats practical and fully functional as BOTH a hand held flashlight and a lantern… of the small table-top variety.

Zebralight, armytek and Rofis have some 50/50 crossover designs as well that function very well as a headlamp or flashlight

https://www.amazon.com/Rofis-Anglelight-Adjustable-head-Lightweight-Flashlight/dp/B01MU06VL3/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1487093094&sr=1-4-fkmr0&keywords=rofis+headlamp

I sent an email to Guinness, hopefully they can give a clear definition.
There’s gotta be some hard limit somewhere, even if it’s just subjective :slight_smile:

Come to think of it, i have many flashlights that stopped being a flashlight…
They’re waiting for me to make them flashlights again…

When you add a medical tool to it. Then it becomes a plasma cutter. :smiley:

Behold:

4 meters long, almost 1 meter head diameter.

Apparently it’s a Guinness approved world record.

Seems to me it’s not too hard to break that record. :smiling_imp:

:question: is that LED Lenser tail-clicky or side-switch? :smiley:

Side switch. :nerd_face:

some specs:

Developer: Erich Buhl
Business: Zweibrüder Optoelectronics GmbH &Co.KG
Length: 400 centimeters (4 Meter)
Diameter: 96 centimeters (0,96 Meter)
Weight: 216 kilogram
Energy: 1.000 watt / 24 volt (connected to power supply)
Energy sources: 2x 60Ah Gel- batteries (Total weight 80Kg)
Material: Aluminum
Number of LEDs: 19 High- End Power LEDs
Cable length inside the flashlight: 20 meter

source: Led Lenser in news/updates

I’ve seen less generic stats in Sipik clones. Smells like a scam to me - not getting that for my EDC, for sure. :smiley:

I’d like to see a smo reflector that size with a xhp35 in it. Talk about throw!!!

if it has a led that lights up and isn’t permanently attached to something.