Beginners and reference section idea?

How about a section with just a few reference threads, CRX’s compilations, Scaru’s guides, i have a guide to being a flashaholic, i believe there is a LED spreadsheet thats being updated, common answers to Qs newbies ask, Match’s lumen tests, that kind of thing. Also such a forum should only have threads put there by SB so it does not get cluttered. It would be easier to find those reference threads when we need them instead of having collections of bookmarks or using the search feature.

I vote for that. A good place for beginner collectors, and reference data to Lights, emitters, etc.

Some of the most difficult and time consuming tasks are finding relevant information when you’re new to this stuff.

A reference section would be a very good idea.

Absolutely Agree with you,
Find it very difficult to look up a simplified flashlight projects, which have a complete simple description of how to do,
what parts to be replaced, link to the part to be purchased, and that the project is not for difficult …… and not too hard soldering tasks…
remember there are some new like me on this forum who are completely inexperienced…
Is there anyone who could help in that direction, I just wanted to thank you so much for the help it would be. :beer:

With compliments from

  • an inexperienced - :slight_smile:

On other forums this often comes up after a while, when the amount of posts becomes big enough.

One way is to use threads for specific topics that link to other threads or posts that are relevant and informative. Others can post new links to add to the list. Outside resources could also be linked. The topics should most likely be pretty narrow. And anyone can start a link list on their own favorite topic. And anyone can contribute with links. The more the merrier. There shouldn’t be too many links. Some older links may be deleted if they loose relevance.

Mods/admin could make these threads sticky, if they like them, and perhaps give them a better name to identify them. Like “Link list: Li-ion chargers” or “Link list: Programmable flashlights”. The threads could even be moved to a special reference forum area.

Either mods update the first post with new links, or the OP gets extra permission to edit the first post as needed.

The link lists are also very useful and helpful when creating wiki entries, if that becomes an issue.

I would suggest that it just is to start to make reference threads to test it, and see how the mods/admin reacts. It is usually better to be prepared to ask for forgiveness for being too pushy, than to wait for someone else to do something. :wink:

However I am new here, so I don’t dare to do it myself. Not yet… 0:)

I can search, but not if I dont know what to search for. Even when you do know what to search for, you get so many hits that fit, but not in the way you need it. But,there might be some gains in that. The more you have to sift through, the more you pick up. Problem is you end up spending the time learning something that might make something else clear, but not relevant to the question youre trying to answer. So you might spend time here reading, and learn much, but nothing you needed at the time.

Moreover, until recently, I thought you guys loved p60’s. But I eventually came across threads that suggest they less than popular.

In short …maybe.

There’s no substitute for reading if you want to learn and no shortcuts. Our eyes are how we download to our brains. Until you have learned a bit the search function is of limited use so the best thing to do is look at the threads in the general information subforum and skim through them, read threads from among the newst posts that catch your eye, and ask questions when you can’t find or figure something out. It’s already organized but until you spend some time looking at the forum instead of for something in particular you won’t know where anything is.

As I seen it we do not really need a beginner section, but a sticky with links to all the threads with good beginner information.

And then a link on the front page to the sticky thread.

To make this work, somebody must maintain the first post in the sticky to always include the best links.

seriously, something is needed, or at least will make life easier.

PWM, U2, T6 bin, not bin, 1A, driver, pill, mcpcb, … that all complicate sit. i read conversations, and had no idea what the hell you were saying. Clearly you all did, but I was struggling. I get a lot of it now, but I still dont get the U2 T6 thing. T6 is neutral white I thought. But OL in another thread suggests ditching the T6 in a particular light. But then suggests a NW colour. So clearly there is more to it than I think. Let alone batteries, and the different aspects to consider when buying.

Its overwhelming and very difficult for many people to do anything useful with the information that is here.

Selfbuilt’s flashlight primer playlist on youtube is an amazing start:

I have seen this kind of thing in many forums. I have seen many types of fixes for it. There are none that work. Even with all kinds of stickies all around, the majority of folk will not bother to read them. It's a proven fact. No one wants to read any more. They expect someone else to answer their questions, so that they do not have to spend even a few seconds reading. You have all seen it over and over. Looking at forums, I see all kinds of things pointing people to go read first, go search first, try here first and what happens? No one wants that, as evidences by the amount of "same questions asked" threads ever day. Most of the time, any more, I don't even bother reading the thread when it's something that was asked yesterday and the day before too and I don't respond to them any more.

It's a noble effort, but it's a waste of time, unless you want it for yourself.

How many do you think even bother to go look at flashlightwiki and actually read it?

Searching works, I use it here a lot. I know it doesn't always work, but it helps a lot. There are lots of stickies in the forums now and many of them give out lots of information and links.

Just spend some time browsing around on FlashlightWiki:

Conveniently linked to on the left side of the page! Cool

Learning takes time. T6 and U2 refer to the output level of an XML or XM-L2. U2’s are limited to cooler color temp LEDs and T6’s are more neutral while S6, T4, and T5 are usually warmer but those designations aren’t for a particular Color bin which is why there is a second set of numbers/letters for the tint such as “U2-1A”, “T6-3C”, “S6-7D3”, etc(look at a color chart, it will be obvious then). Be patient, there’s way to much to learn or explain to put all in one place and as you learn more you will also learn where to find things. Asking questions is a good thing. Looking around and following your curiosity is a really good thing and you will learn more about the forum as well as just the content. When you find a thread that is relevant to you, bookmark it. Eventually you will have learned enough about both the forum and it’s content that finding things will be second nature but the process cannot be circumvented. I’ve been here for almost 2 incredible years and I’m finally feeling comfortable about navigating and locating what I need but there has been an enormous amount of work already done in terms of collecting and organizing the many contributions to the forum and that process is continuous so read, read, read some more. Even if someone were to collect, collate, index, and cross-reference this , you would still have to read it to learn it.

Led’s and other stuff is a good spot to bookmark. It includes many pages that I had bookmarked separately for ages.
One stop mod reference shop Has a ton of useful info.
BLF modding links thread Has mods by many of the favorites. But only by those who took the time to put them there.
Tint, binning, CRI explained Obvious.
BLF first annual DIY contest If you read this and still can’t think of anything. Quit.

These are examples of resources I use frequently but in reality they did not exist when I was learning a lot of this so I just bookmarked my favorite stores, the Cree website, data sheets for 7135’s and Attiny13A’s and whatever else I was researching at any given time. It’s called studying, and if you didn’t learn how in school then you have to learn how to learn now. Whatever works for you. For me it was a smattering of this and that mixed in with plenty of erroneous assumptions on my part graciously(or not as the case may be) corrected by others and lots of questions. Even now I still spend far more time reading than anything else.

When I joined here, I actually suggested that a lot of the sticky’d threads needed to be unsticky’d because the information in them was out of date and no longer relevant, and the admin responded and IMO the forum became a lot easier to browse.

Anyway, I don’t think a beginners guide is necessary - partly because things move so quickly so the information becomes out of date too quickly, and partly because the information is generally already there and just a google search away.

The best way to learn anything is by immersing your self in it, this is a technical forum and I am slowly learning what is what - that suits me. Some people don’t need or want to learn that side of things, and that is fine.

Like to add:
A Beginner’s Guide to Flashaholism

What I was missing in the beginning was some basic stuff like:

- What are the parts in a flashlight? (such as head, pill, driver, led, star etc.)

- How does a flashlight work? (Seems simple now, but I couldn’t figure out the basic electrical functioning a few months ago)

  • What do basic terms like flood, throw, hotspot, spill etc mean?
    Did expect that this information would be on the flashlight wiki.

I do agree with Old Lumens that the beginners guide is not new to this forum and there is no one magical solution. What I do have seen is that people start with a rather generic question, then you can supply them a link to the information. Next they either will have found their answer or are able to place a more direct question wich is more specified to there problem.