As a professional designer...let me offer this suggestion. Choose a symbol apart from trying to stylizing the font. Stylizing a font can be troublesome to find consensus.
That was the original one, I think, but from which member, I do not know. I do know it has never gone over well, since everyone has an opinion of what they want. I think no logo at all would be better than the Mfg logos on everything.
I think it would make it look too busy, but we can surely have different logos for the website and the logo to be etched in the light. An example of this can be the Eagleeye logo, there are too many things going on in there and it looks confusing. The JAX logo is very simple, elegant and pleasing to the eyes, at least I see it that way.
Just and idea, and too busy is not what I was going for anyway… I like what you are producing. I am not much of a dream stuff up kind of person. I do well with modifying what is there, but originality is not my forte…… I say again; originality is not my forte… :bigsmile: