Because some people can't be patient to wait their turn while Sofirn sends out the codes in order of appearance on the groupbuy list.
Because some people think some rules do not apply to them and therefore try to find and use any loopholes. Please don't forget the fact that this is Sofirn's first big groupbuy and one of BLF's biggest groupbuys ever. There is always a risk of loopholes but mistakes happen and the good thing about it is that we will learn from them and do better in the future. :-)
Because Sofirn is probably surprised about the significant increase in demand within the past 2 weeks and needs to reschedule their production plan in order to meet this big demand. Thus, there will be some additional delay we need to face now.
In my humble opinion, the only thing that counts is that everyone on the list will get their lantern(s) for the price that was promised. Waiting for let's say another month seems okay to me, taking into consideration that the entire project took some years of hard work. :THUMBS-UP:
Though theyāve been erased from history, this person stated that they were high on the GB list and did not want to wait so long for their LT1. In other words, even their mother canāt stand them.
Whatās surprising is not that some loser cheated, but that they thought they should share with the rest of us how we could do so as well, as though they were being helpful.
This is all I will say about this as itās already been taken care of.
Yes I read about the āAlex-Gateā and what he has written before he was deleted from the forum.
But my first price offer was sunday 2019-10-13, thats what I am wondering.
I have no doubt that everyone here will get their lanterns shipped within a couple of months. After all, it is only a small group buy consisting of 3500 potential orders. Comparing to all the things ever made in China and designed elsewhere, this is really not a big deal. Looking at my trusty Sofirn Q8 which has been heavily used, believe our combined LT1 team can also deliver ā they have already taken actions to squash the bug!
Think about it, over 40% sellers on the global Amazon are based in China. Just the province of Guandongās GDP was at US$1.5 trillion last year. Meanwhile, Guandong (where Sofirn is in) import-export volume in 2018 reached US$1085 billion and keeps growing. Although cheaters have always been around throughout the trade history, but in such a large scale of demands, with less than 1% cheated, I donāt think they even matter at all. Overall, I wish LT1 project a very successful story!
I understand that the group buy has been suspended temporarily, but is the list still being updated?
I put in a request to add my name to the list a little while back, but I dontā see it on the list yet.
Should it be done via PM instead of posting here?
I think a lot of us were under the impression that Sofirn may have been trying to dump the first 500 LT1ās and that was the reason for the eBay and AliExpress no code needed offers.
There was a lot of discussion about firmware changes and color offerings in the 2nd batch.
There were people talking about waiting for the 1st batch to sell out and not using thier codes or waiting to use thier codes until the end of the 30 day expiration date.
There was a lot of confusion after Sofirn made those 2 posts. Looks like that is getting sorted out.
What Alex did and what some others may have done by ordering an LT1 off of eBay are two different things IMO.
I donāt think we should be laying the guilt trip on those who grabbed an LT1 or two from eBay.
It was a messy start thatās for sure. It appears everyone who was legitimately on the list, will get the Lanterns they requested. Back to chill statusā¦
Updates are typically tabulated and published weekly.
With the last minute rush, there have been some off-cycle updates posted, but those are exceptions to the normal weekly standard.
Well, I donāt have power outages (I hopeā¦), and I have no money to buy the lantern this month, so Iām cool
Being #1820 on the listā¦and knowing that the GB in suspended in AliExpress, I guessā¦I will really wait until I get the code by PM to buy one from Amazon(.de)! Even if it only happens in some months
Thanks for the updates on this and for fixing the āissuesā that emerged!
Where did you get the idea that what matters to āhimā has any importance?
Openly stating how to game a broken but still active process and documenting the steps they took to jump the line at the potential expense of others after carefully insuring their cheating was successful - those are neither consistent with the caliber of person we wish to be associated with, nor helpful in revamping the process.
(note - āweā is collective and used in the royal manner, but I am not officially speaking for the site or design team)
I think many of us were confused rather than cheating. Last week I read a post that said you could order them on EBay by making an offer with the group buy price and user name. So thatās what I did. My offer expired and was not accepted. It wasnāt until I read through all the posts that I saw they only made 500. So apparently Iām in the second batch.
So at least on my part, I had no intention to line jump. I just was excited to finally be able to order one.
Thanks for all the hard work on this project! I canāt wait to get one. I jut wish I would have put in for 2 of them.
There was plenty of confusion to go around. Between people stating what did and didnāt work for them with no mention of what their request number was or if they had received the PM yet, and Iām guessing some price match approvals that should have been rejected, it was really hard to know who was talking about what and how to proceed. Iām / weāre not upset with anyone who thought they were following the proper process.
Promise - weāre trying to make things as clear and simple as possible for when ordering is opened up again.
- Iām still taking names and the next updates will be posted Sunday evening. Itās not really efficient for me to do this every evening (and for DBSAR to update post #1) so please be patient. Given that, anyone who posted an interest during a week should check the following weekās updates to verify that their name is indeed on the list. Iām manually scraping names from BLF so itās certainly possible that I missed a post.
- We are at 2,904 on the interest list. Sofirn has stated that everyone <= 3000 will get the group price so donāt worry about where you are on the list. After all these years please be patient for a month or 2 more
- The first 500 LTās are not any worse than the new ones will be. The major change is that colors will be available. There are other minor changes (firmware, some internal changes to facilitate production) that I doubt anyone would notice unless doing an in-depth comparison between LTās from both batches. Sofirn said ā1st batch and 2nd batch has the same function and qualityā.
- As Lux-Perpetua said this is the biggest group buy ever in the history of BLF and Sofirn. So the problems arenāt really all that shocking and future group buys will be better for it. And donāt forget that people are doing this in their spare time and itās not as if we can walk over to discuss or see things with Sofirn. Everything has been done with email/chat over many time and language differences.
- Sofirn is working hard to produce more lanterns and streamline the ordering process. I think they deserve a lot of credit for doing so.
