Buying a cell phone with TS10 built in

Well, since the OP says TS10 built in one would have to imagine more exploding cellphones due to the extreme heat from repeated Turbo blasts with no real heat sinking. And your battery would be dead quicker than you could say Apple iphone :slight_smile:

To answer the imposed of OP question.;
No would not effect decision. Would actually pay more for smartphone that actually had better Cell Phone performance than computing performance.
Funny how you can be somewhere and get squat coverage but still able to send texts with little problem.
Yeah I know, smaller data packets. yadda yadda.

Anyway good thread !

I have found that different cell phone companies have different reception…

For some places I have lived, ATT was better. In other places Verizon is better, and in some places TMobile is better

I recently switched from ATT to Verizon, because that is the best where I live now.

I have Much Better reception at the local Ski Area w Verizon… ATT was useless there

And my Verizon bill is now Half of what I was paying ATT

I do not use the flashlight on my phone, because it is Low CRI :wink:

otoh, my kids refuse to carry a flashlight, they prefer to use their phone… they tell me it is one less thing to carry.

In NYC Verizon rules. 5G + 5 bars.

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Most cellphones have high CRI leds nowadays, but the output and throw are both pathetic. It also leads to issues like battery drain and stuff. I prefer a dedicated light with its own energy source.

I started EDCing a dedicated flashlight after my $750 Samsung Galaxy S-Flashlight tumbled off the back of my mother-in-law’s TV stand and smashed while I was trying to reconnect her Roku.

Well, that’s another reason to not use your phone to light stuff in the dark.

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It does not lead to battery drain if you only use it when you need it.

What if I want a 2 our walk in the dark woods?

Then you should take a real light. Much the same when someone gets married they hire a real photographer with a real camera and not a cell phone.

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Cellphone “flashlights” are pretty much just mules, so have near-zero throw. Flood is nice, at least for snapping pix of something close-in, but no one expects to snap a cellphone pic of something even 20ft-30ft away.

Assuming a modest 100lm/W, how many watts would you expect a cellphone light to sustainably put out for even a few minutes? Thermal stepdown in a cellphone? Expect returns out the wazoo for “defective” lights if people want to use their cellphone lights for video clips. And that’d likely cook the battery-pouch 'til it puffs up like a balloon.

Okay, so focus the light for more throw… then what about pix where you actually want flood again? Multiple emitters, for close/far or even close/mid/far?

If you only have a phone and need to find something you dropped, or want to grubble around in a cabinet or something, a zero-throw source of light would be fine.

But to use it as an actual flashlight like when walking the dog, etc.? C’mon, that’s retarded. No one in his right mind would use a cellphone that way. Unless dialed down to bare minimum light output, you’d run down the battery in no time.

But there are some that do use phones as lights. My plumber has his own flashlight, even to look at stuff up close but in shadow. Yet a house-inspector I know just uses his cellphone to poke around in basements and the like. When I was there for a house inspection and we were looking in the… attic? the crawlspace between ceiling and roof… he was attempting to shine in there with his phone. Lit up the first 6ft or so, but then blackness. I whipped out my MH20 and saw all the way from front to back, and didn’t even have to crank it up that much. He didn’t say anything, but he looked at how small the '20 was and how much it lit up everything, so maybe I had a convert, who knows. Guess he was expecting a 3D Maglite to have any oomf and was surprised at what a small light could do.

So maybe if you’re in some cave surrounded by Sleestaks or something and have to find your way out in the dark, a cellphone would be (marginally) better than nothing. But use a damned flashlight.

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This sums it up for me. Don’t get me wrong, a decent light on my phone is still better than no light at all but it’s not as good as a dedicated tool.

It’s a bit like multitools, the screwdriver on my Leatherman is a lot better than nothing, but it’s pretty terrible compared to an actual screwdriver.

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I like how you’re thinking

This is all valuable feedback.

The original question posted was:

If a particular phone had a good or awesome light built in, would that influence your decision in making a phone purchase.

In other words, would you look at the cpu specs, the memory size, and the specs of the built in light in making your decision as to wich phone to buy.

I’m probably an outlier but for me the only criteria is whether it can be thoroughly degoogled, robustly encrypted and used with libre software only. Aside from that it might as well be a flip phone.

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I’m partial to the lower end Motorola phones c.$200, I’m on my second in 5-6 years. This is partly due to price/performance ratio and also I particularly like the “shake to activate flashlight” feature. A double karate chop type movement turns the light on/off without having to even turn the screen on. Not sure if Motorola have the patent, I’ve not seen it utilised elsewhere.

Edit to add: I’ve also noticed my current Motorola seems to have above average WiFi range, I can pick up WiFi networks that a Google Pixel 4 or an iPhone ?13/14 Pro can’t see, no idea how it’s possible.

So you have a problem with people tracking you and knowing everything you like and dislike. I can’t imagine why. LOL

If battery life and heat was not an issue, yes I’d be interested. As it is i use my phone light very occasionally but only sporadically and in short bursts, usually when I’ve left my edc in the ute.

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iPhone also has a couple of shortcut options to turn on the flashlight:

I’m pretty into flashlights, but it’s not one of the factors I consider when choosing a phone. The factors I look for instead are:

  • surprising no one, I want decent community firmware available and reasonably easy to install
  • low price
  • ability to talk to the current and next cell networks
  • acceptable size and shape
  • standard headphone / headset jack
  • user-serviceable ideally, like replacing the battery
  • availability of cheap but decent cases and screen protectors, to keep it in good condition long-term

Otherwise, almost every phone is basically just a portable screen with a battery and a slab of computronium attached, and a variety of I/O (radios, mic, speakers, USB, a few buttons, maybe a light sensor or potato camera).

I only use a phone for things where its unique form factor is beneficial… and for flashlight purposes, that form is not beneficial.

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Nicely put! :+1:

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