FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

They can all run the same firmware if you have an AVR programmer.

Theyā€™re also all the same, or at least similar, for most functions.

Hi,

My name is on the list Interest (278, 519 Nguyen)
Please put me down for two more.

Thanks

They all come with different firmware, but Iā€™m hoping to flash them all with AndĆŗril eventually.

Not sure how I missed this beautiful light, but I did, wow what a beauty ā€¦ !
I hope itā€™s not to late to get on the list for this GBā€¦?
I read $30 each plus shipping, if thatā€™s correct and if the buy is still open Iā€™d like to purchase 2 please.
Nice to see that Lumintop will be doing the manufacturing after having just gone through the BLF GT GB, Lumintop did a spectacular job on that light and Iā€™m positive they will do the same for this beauty.

Thank you and itā€™s great to see a collaboration between TLF & BLF,

It sounds like I was wrong about a lot of peopleā€™s preferences. Maybe they already own Emisars for brightness. I donā€™t yet. I guess weā€™ll see what is decided, but I didnā€™t imagine people wanting a less bright triple.

Yep, that is what the D4 did to this project. I have no opinion on if this is the best direction but it makes sense that it should distuingish itself from the brilliant D4, perhaps also in a slightly more manageable performance and even better user interface.

personally, I put off buying the D4 because of the FW3A project, I suspect a lot of people did. Now the D4 has been around long enough that many have bought it anyway, or are no longer as enthusiastic about the FW3A as a pure performer, since it wonā€™t really be anything new in that regard.

I would like to see the FW3A become the EDC of choice for the enthusiast, in the size category of single 18650 of course.

In order to attain that I imagine it would have to:-

Look classy
Be unique
Have a good CRI
Have a neutral tint
Have a powerful turbo (well above 1500 Lumens)
Have a ramping UI and a choice of other group modes
Be able to sustain a good high mode (over 500 Lumens) as long as battery life permits
Have no significant parasitic drain (months to drop to 80% battery life if unused)
Have a proper moonlight (around 1 lumen or less, preferably adjustable to user preference)
Have a beam profile that has both wide spill and useable throw

Now I am committed to the FW3A, but will probably buy a D4 as well anyway, because - well if you are on this form you probably understandā€¦ā€¦.
I want it to be my main EDC light, but have lost track of how many of the above boxes it ticks, I count at least 5 definites , though some appear not to be decided yet.

interest

Please put me down for one.

Iā€™m on the list (#552), please put me down for 3 more.

Thx, Neale

Please add me to the list.
I posted earlier in the thread but donā€™t see my name on it. Thanks.

D4 is absolutely worth it. You should definitely get one. The output on turbo is phenominal!

That said, more recently I find myself carrying a Zebralight SC600 IV plus. Itā€™s slightly bigger than a D4 and initially much dimmer at around 2300 lumens. But it does one thing that the D4 doesnā€™t do: the Zebralight easily sustains 1500+ lumen output. The thermal management is excellent and it doesnā€™t need to ramp down fast like the D4 does. This means that after about 30-40 seconds of turbo itā€™s much much brighter than all of my D4s.

Your #990.

I also agree with others : better quality of light vs Max output. I donā€™t care about max output.

I canā€™t see my name on the list, could you please put me down for 1 more

Can we make this light with supper moon mode 0.01 lumen so it can run for months? :slight_smile:

Iā€™m not on the list as the light is too close to D4 and the light I own is always cheaper than the one I donā€™t.

Actually it would be nice to experience a tail e-switch, but for me $30 is too much just to get that experience.
What can FW3A improve over D4?

  • efficiency. Frankly, the improvement is marginal
  • regulated output. Some care, some donā€™t
  • UI
    • Tail click is easier to find so itā€™s already a step ahead
    • Software might be improved too
  • weight. D4 is a quite chunky
  • Size. Less to gain here. Especially that 18350 is not intended initially. So itā€™s more like FW3A can improve size/capacity but not size alone.
  • price

What it canā€™t improve (without redesign or cost hike):

  • output
  • heat shedding
  • overall quality. Thereā€™s little space for improvement really, especially on a budget
  • availability. D4 is here already

So itā€™s advantages really boil down to 3 things:

  • UI
  • price
  • taste. Styling, the custom feeling, you name it

I would be interested if:

  • it challenged Zebras on efficiency, or
  • it was available as 18350

Neither of these require a major redesign. But the former does require some size increase as well as a major price hike while the latter is simply a smaller niche.

Itā€™s considerably slimmer than the D4 and designed with a pocket clip from the start, which is more securely attached than most of the D4 options.

But yes, it does overlap a lot with the D4 and someone who doesnā€™t like to have overlapping lights wonā€™t get a lot out of having both.

Like Zulumoose, I didnā€™t get the Emisar (yet) because I was planning on getting several of these, likely more. The new UI, and features thereof, are definitely an upgrade. Iā€™m getting one, maybe two no matter what, but maybe a D4 will take the place of at least one, if the output difference is significant.