Haikelite SC26 *** CLOSED For U.S.A. and Canadian Customers only*** Haikelite cut me off at 100 units so GB is closed.

[JakeDjanitor]

@bansuri

@JakeDjanitor

I’m back to thinking about a D4 as my new edc. I dont see my self buying a Haiklite anytime soon. This whole situation went straight down the tubes.

Titanium is on sale and Hank at Intl-outdoors is amazing!

I have heard it gets hot very fast, would it make a viable EDC, or is it just a novelty? I like the TI . And I would probably get the 4000k led option.
It should be able to supply more light than a s2+ without making too much heat.

[Newlumen]

Yea… i bought three haikelite.

Mt09r xhp70.2 gb…
Mt09r xhp35 gb…
Mt07s. From hesaidshesaid site…

I paid for the all the TA driver and labor… just some information…

[Newlumen]

@Texas_Ace

I am not going to speculate on things I don’t know but a I can say that Terry wanted nothing to do with one of these GB’s (The SC26 IIRC) but he got stuck with it, not that it changes much.

Terry installed a handful of TA drivers that I shipped to him, he also did pay for those drivers like anyone else except for maybe 1 or 2 prototypes I sent him for testing.

All the drivers that people purchased from me directly were handled by me.

My payment was indeed to come from HL direct, which as of 2 days ago they paid half the agreed price (which was half of my asking price since they said they could get a china manufacture to do it for less but I didn’t want BLF to be stuck with another round of china drivers, so I agreed to lower my price, plus something was better then nothing after all the time and money to prototype them).

How many TA driver did you send to terry?

[Texas_Ace]

@Newlumen

@Texas_Ace

I am not going to speculate on things I don’t know but a I can say that Terry wanted nothing to do with one of these GB’s (The SC26 IIRC) but he got stuck with it, not that it changes much.

Terry installed a handful of TA drivers that I shipped to him, he also did pay for those drivers like anyone else except for maybe 1 or 2 prototypes I sent him for testing.

All the drivers that people purchased from me directly were handled by me.

My payment was indeed to come from HL direct, which as of 2 days ago they paid half the agreed price (which was half of my asking price since they said they could get a china manufacture to do it for less but I didn’t want BLF to be stuck with another round of china drivers, so I agreed to lower my price, plus something was better then nothing after all the time and money to prototype them).

How many TA driver did you send to terry?

I do not remember exactly as they were sent over the course of several months, less then 10 I am pretty sure. I made a total of 110 drivers + the prototypes. Of which all but the final prototypes were scrapped since they had issues that made them unacceptable to use.

[Newlumen]

I remember most of the lights were installed by TA…

[vinte77]

@Texas_Ace

@Newlumen

@Texas_Ace

I am not going to speculate on things I don’t know but a I can say that Terry wanted nothing to do with one of these GB’s (The SC26 IIRC) but he got stuck with it, not that it changes much.

Terry installed a handful of TA drivers that I shipped to him, he also did pay for those drivers like anyone else except for maybe 1 or 2 prototypes I sent him for testing.

All the drivers that people purchased from me directly were handled by me.

My payment was indeed to come from HL direct, which as of 2 days ago they paid half the agreed price (which was half of my asking price since they said they could get a china manufacture to do it for less but I didn’t want BLF to be stuck with another round of china drivers, so I agreed to lower my price, plus something was better then nothing after all the time and money to prototype them).

How many TA driver did you send to terry?

I do not remember exactly as they were sent over the course of several months, less then 10 I am pretty sure. I made a total of 110 drivers + the prototypes. Of which all but the final prototypes were scrapped since they had issues that made them unacceptable to use.

So how does less than 10 drivers turn into 60? By Terry’s words… Which isn’t worth much around here.

[Lightbringer]

And this is why we can’t have nice things…

[BlueSwordM]

I really want Haikelite to send an SC26 to a reviewer, like Texas Ace, or djozz, or Advanced Knife Bro, or Virisenox.

So we can see if Terry’s claims were true or not.

[Texas_Ace]

@BlueSwordM

I really want Haikelite to send an SC26 to a reviewer, like Texas Ace, or djozz, or Advanced Knife Bro, or Virisenox.

So we can see if Terry’s claims were true or not.

They said they were going to send one to me months ago but nothing ever showed up.

[toddcshoe]

@bansuri

I’ve ordered a Convoy BD06 for my 26650 since this GB imploded, if anyone within 20 miles of St. Louis has a need for my 26350 battery I will hand deliver it to you.
(Any excuse to get out on the motorcycle in this beautiful weather!)
PM me.

Only light I found for 26350 was the BTU PK26 witch has been discontinued and I couldn’t find a used one anywhere.

[vinte77]

Btw, I’m glad that HL decided to pay part of your money TA. Hopefully, they will send you the rest of the money soon and a SC26 sample as well.

Looks like HL isn’t as bad as they were made out to be… Not to say that they don’t have their own problems but I’m having a hard time when comparing their part in this compared to Terry’s. At this point, I’m not even sure Terry had good intentions from the beginning before things went south. But regardless if Terry didn’t want to do the GBs as he has said, and he didn’t put his all into these GBs, I still don’t see how it justifies his actions.

[Dman7777]

IMHO Haikelight needs to resolve this problem for customers who paid for an SC-26.

• Terry was Chosen as the sole US distributor for Haikelight
• Terry Posts in the forum using a Haikelight official username
• Ultimately Terry is a representative of the Haikelight brand.
• Terry took our money and did not deliver the goods that were purchased.
• We should not be concerning ourselves with who is at fault internally and we should not give anybody a free pass in this situation.

We as a internet flashlight forum / knowledge resource need to hold both parties accountable if this is not resolved.
We may need a stickied post that highlights the incident and advises people to use caution when dealing with the distributor and/or the brand.
If Haikelight / Terry cant get their collective shit together for their customers who went out on a limb for them, then they both deserve to go out of business

[JakeDjanitor]

@Lightbringer

And this is why we can’t have nice things…

My Dad used to say this all the time… He was usually right too

[cellguy]

Terry is spamming his MT09R thread with more lies.

Here is the link the file a complaint with South Carolina for scams. If enough people file hopefully that will at least get his business license revoked.

http://www.consumer.sc.gov/Documents/IDTU/Scams/Scam_Report_Form.pdf

Here the link with instructions on how to file an PayPal claim.

https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/article/how-do-i-report-potential-fraud,-spoof-or-unauthorized-transactions-to-paypal-faq2422

[sb56637]

@Dirty_Pierre

@sb56637

Also, in view of the exchange with a racial slur that was re-posted here (i.e. it was not originally posted on BLF), I would like to be perfectly clear that BLF condemns racism in all its forms, full stop. My apologies to any of our users in China or elsewhere that were rightfully offended by that. It was good to see how our users here denounced that kind of garbage.

I also want to be perfectly clear that I do not condone or defend in any way Mr. White’s Facebook post containing the racial slur. I absolutely condemn it and am still at a loss for words to even describe my reaction to it. My only purpose in the posting of the screen capture is to bring information to the situation at hand.

Mods if you are so inclined, I will take down the capture if requested.

I understand that those weren’t your words, and I wasn’t trying to reprove you personally. I’ll leave it to your own discretion if you want to leave the conversation up or take it down.

[JakeDjanitor]

@sb56637

@Dirty_Pierre

@sb56637

Also, in view of the exchange with a racial slur that was re-posted here (i.e. it was not originally posted on BLF), I would like to be perfectly clear that BLF condemns racism in all its forms, full stop. My apologies to any of our users in China or elsewhere that were rightfully offended by that. It was good to see how our users here denounced that kind of garbage.

I also want to be perfectly clear that I do not condone or defend in any way Mr. White’s Facebook post containing the racial slur. I absolutely condemn it and am still at a loss for words to even describe my reaction to it. My only purpose in the posting of the screen capture is to bring information to the situation at hand.

Mods if you are so inclined, I will take down the capture if requested.

I understand that those weren’t your words, and I wasn’t trying to reprove you personally. I’ll leave it to your own discretion if you want to leave the conversation up or take it down.

I am glad he posted it for us to see what is going on. It is relevant to this thread. We should know how the guy we all were supporting acts.
It will make it easier when people file a dispute.

[CNCman]

Wow, I have been reading some posts here and this is alarming. Makes me question joining a GB for any flashlight not already on the market. Glad I don’t have a horse in this race. $3,200.00 from 100 customers is already in jeopardy. And the salesman has clearly turned his back on his customers some time ago. Haikelite bears some responsibility for using him for a salesman and not stepping in to salvage its reputation as well. I feel for the BLF members here who are the advocates for newer better flashlights who apparently have been BAMBOOZLED :rage:

[JakeDjanitor]

@CNCman

Wow, I have been reading some posts here and this is alarming. Makes me question joining a GB for any flashlight not already on the market. Glad I don’t have a horse in this race. $3,200.00 from 100 customers is already in jeopardy. And the salesman has clearly turned his back on his customers some time ago. Haikelite bears some responsibility for using him for a salesman and not stepping in to salvage its reputation as well. I feel for the BLF members here who are the advocates for newer better flashlights who apparently have been BAMBOOZLED :rage:

Luckily PayPal will reimburse us for our foolish misplaced trust.
But having that money tied up prevented some of us from buying other deals that may have come up.
PayPal is the only way to go in a situation like this, otherwise we would be out $32 each

[hIKARInoob]

Please notice the pun: bambooz-led.

[JakeDjanitor]

@hIKARInoob

Please notice the pun: bambooz-led.

Haha that was clever and sly good job