Just a reminder - do not leave charging batteries unattended!!!

So after I took the charger of the power outlet and took all the cells out i just put it aside and didn't want to handle with the mess.

Today I connect it to the outlet again, in order to measure the slot as snakebite suggested and it just didn't turn on.

I took the charger apart and noticed it DOES HAVE thermal sensors for each slot and also confirmed it online.

(You can see the thermal sensors in the pic connected to "TH" on the PCB)





So the good news are that if you want a charger with thermal protection the Opus does offer this.

The bad news are that it probably didn't work and could cause some serious damage.

The bad news #2 are that the charger is no longer working and I have to buy a new one :(

The Miboxer C4-12 also has thermal sensor, similar to the MC3000, although the temperature threshold is not user-configurable, and I think set to a fairly high temperature (55 or maybe 65 degrees Celsius?).

Also, the C4-12 appears to use its IR measurement (again IR measurement cannot be completely accurate due to the contact/rails though) for determining the automatic charge current. And it can use very high charge current for cells that it measured low IR (and conversely, many button-top cells will have high-IR due to the contact point, even if they should have lower IR than measured).

The Xtar VC4S also uses IR measurement to determine the charge current (it tries to charge new AAA NiMh at very high charge current though…). So using IR measurement for the unit to auto-select charge current may not be foolproof…

MC3000 has user-configurable temperature threshold so it may come in more useful (also, if attached to a computer or phone for graphing, one can monitor the temperature raise in the graph, eg. if it’s rising too quickly, may indicate a problem with the cell…)

But, I usually won’t immediately test the capacity of a cell that has unknown condition (eg. 2nd-hand from battery pack) since they could have very high IR, or drained to too low voltage, or other damage. Usually when trying to charge something unknown, I use the slowest charge current (eg. around 100mA) and see if the voltage rises. (after checking that the voltage is not “too low” and also checking the IR first with a battery resistance tester.)

Hey, I just spotted this thread. Yes the BT-C3100 has temperature sensors, but the software ignores them during the charge cycle. At least that’s what I observed.

That is what the instructions says:

7. Overheat Protection When charger works at high current, there will be massive heat generated inside the charger. To achieve a good charging result as well as keeping batteries at the top condition, lowest temperature rise is very important for both charger and battery. BT-C3000 charger is equipped with a temperature controlled cooling system. When internal temperature is lower than 40C, fan will be stopped. When internal temperature or battery temperature is over 40C, fan will be switched on. With our improved charging circuit design, for normal good quality battery with low impedance, heating built up on battery during charging process is almost unnoticeable. However during the last charging stage for Ni-Cd or Ni-Mh batteries, when battery is almost full, batteries can become hot. This is normal: the larger charging current applied, the more heat will build up. When battery temperature is sensed to be over 60C, then over heat protection will be kicked in for safety reason. When overheating occurs, current working mode for all 4 slots will be automatically halted. To tell if it is in the state of overheating protection mode, charging current will be reduced to 0mA. Charging/discharging process will only resume after battery temperature drops below 40 degrees Celsius.

I don't know if is also apply for Lion cells

I”ve been asking after ( in another so far unanswered thread) recommendations for a low power solar charger controller, having accumulated some 5 and 7 AH cells from UPSes. I noticed while searching that almost all of the charge controllers for sale except the very cheapest incorporate a temperature sensor on a cable, meant to monitor the battery and warn against or shut off charging if the battery gets too hot.

It was news to me that some 18650-size chargers have heat sensors. I appreciate the info in this thread — it’s now a feature I know to look for.

Of course, a test result showing that the heat sensors work would be even more welcome. Has HKJ mentioned this feature anywhere?

GOOD LESSON. I had two older hot Tenergy AAAs I was trying to charge yesterday. Had to take them out and discard them. They got real hot to the touch.

I think HKJ’s reviews will mention the thermal sensors in his reviews… (eg. check SkyRC MC3000, Miboxer C4-12, Xtar Overslim)