Wouldn’t IR reflect off the water particles just like visible light ?
Would this not damage the users eyes ?
As for a microwave device, an unprotected radiation device sounds like a wonderful way, to kill yourself that it…
Hum, don’t they place the IR heaters almost everywhere outside bars, now when it’s winter, doubt that it is dangerous. So maybe a t5-5c should be the candidate to try.
Lots of IR comes from the sun.
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My MC-E zoomie can do quite a good job.
Issue with fog is penetration vs reflection. Mount the lights low, don’t expect high power to offer much more throw due to the increased level of reflection.
I don’t know the science, but IR penetrates fog much better than visible light.
Drive much in fog, plan on getting into a wreck, its dangerous.
I use my lights hunting in the swamps and marsh. Tons of fog and rain. I personally find that if I hold the light as low/far away from eye level I get best results. No real solutions. I also noticed just recently that a Surefire Fury on low (greenish tent) seems to best for MY eyes. We have a 45 min boat ride in one area. I lay on the bow of the boat, captain stands up in back. Works fairly well. Keeps lights low and far away from his eyes.
too bad most new cars have lights interlock, you can’t have fog lights on without low beams.
lows light up fog in front of you, and make fog lights useless.
the only way to actually see thru fog is flir. all those ir leds, or any led wont do much good, they rely on visible light. that fog blocks\reflects.
i had a caddy deville with flir, loved that car, the best option one can get. it is sold separetly as well to install on any car, but price bites, 3-4k
Cibie’s, using them for 30 years, 175’s Fog.
A beam that that has a top cut off will reduce scatter.
I run Cibie headlights and aux, and relays to turn all filaments on for 980 watts of light
I lived in a fog ridden valley for years, and the catch is there are PLENTY of other nuts out on the road in the fog NOT doing what you are doing. So its good that you can see better with some light, but mostly you need to warn others that you are there.
Driving in fog is part of my youth where I wonder how I survived. Details too stupid to post.
... or a great way to turn roadkill into an impromptu picnic entree. 
Works great for heavy fog, day or night 
Some of our boats have two, but yeah, put our lights away as they are worthless in the visible spectrum, no?
It’s also best to have the beam far away from your line of sight to avoid lighting up the fog in front of you.
I have one of those RHD Diesel 4WD Vans that is semi camperized and we use it a lot on deserted roads. We often travel at night and sleep at the trail head so we can get an early start for AT skiing in the morning. At night there can be dozens of ungulates feeding roadside and they are a hazard as they often suddenly bolt across in front of you if they sense a predator. It has been one of my goals to experiment with a DIY IR system. It would involve getting a large IR Emitter Panel mounted on the bull bar where the present fog lights are. My research seemed to indicate that I could project an IR Beam 4X further than the distance that legal high beams go. On the roof I would mount a PTZ surveillance camera that has 10X optical zoom and built in WiFi and DNS server. I would then connect to the camera from a Tablet that can be running either Windows, IOS, or Android and dash mount the tablet. Still not exactly cheap, especially for the 10X Optical zoom PTZ cameras, but probably a lot more affordable than retrofitting an aftermarket FLIR sytem. I imagine that oncoming traffic’s headlights will disable the IR image in your PTZ camera, but during winter roads like Highway 93N and 93S have very little traffic at night (I can often go 100km without seeing another car on those roads at night).
Any suggestions/thoughts on the best way to go with giving substance to a powerful 12V IR panel with a focused beam pattern to use for this would be great.
From a CR4 thread years ago:
The full thread is here:
http: //cr4.globalspec.com/thread/2520
[edit] … oops , posting at the same time as you TSellers … yours sounds like a very inventive idea .
I have a halogen that uses 18650’s and hits over 1,200 lumens with a big head. It cuts through fog pretty well. It’s in the for sale section by the way.
AFAIK, in most places it’s illegal or highly frowned-upon to put a video screen where the driver can see it.
Not to mention incredibly stupid. Consider it this way: The rest of us out here driving around you want you to pay attention to us, not whatever you have on that screen. (I get that you, personally, would be perfectly fine with it; but the law isn’t written for you personally…)
OTOH, there’s a much better option all around, even for a co-driver, Pico Projectors ! Mount one of these where it shines on a part of the windshield that doesn’t show Road (the bottom where you see the hood, or the top if there’s a shaded section there — YBTJ) and you just got fully-legal “all-weather” capability.
If you get a good one, you can still enjoy DVDs while driving and just flip to the FLIR when the cops pull you. Mischief managed!
The good ones might let you beam it up from the dash onto the windshield in your view, superimposing the FLIR onto the visual…
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Not sure if your a judge or peace officer, but thanks for your opinion, as everyone is entitled to one, expert or not (even the incredibly stupid ones, which is where you’re inferring I fit in apparently).
In our jurisdiction it’s what’s on the screen that determines, as GPS devices display on video screens. So last year saw the introduction of the Distracted Driving Clause, which gives Peace Officers broader authority under the Act and can include such things as talking on cell phone, eating, applying make-up, etc. It appears as though GPS displays are not targeted, and I suppose there has not yet been a test of whether an IR image would be the same as a GPS image, whether the source is a projection device or a fixed display screen.
Let me know when you’re going to be around, and I’ll try to make sure I pay attention to you.
Sorry you took it the wrong way, bud.
Even police officers have trouble with distracted driving.
The point was the HUD…
I wasn’t talking about you. I was trying to have a conversation with you, but maybe that’s not such a good idea.
You could not pay me to hang out on cpf lol hehehe :zipper_mouth_face: