There is an FFL store on Aliexpress and here is the E12R (not specified which emitters though)
Actually I am interested in buying a e12r for myself as well but I missed the sale during end of last year. Fireflies (now call fireflylite) released a new website also end of last year with all the new flashlights and choice of leds. But during the new year they closed the webpage with plans for opening a USA-based warehouse. I expect this page to be updated soon but we do not know the time yet.
My suggestion is for the new e07x pro, not the same as the normal e07. The e07 is a classic but has a normal inefficient linear driver like the e12c. The e07x pro has the new driver, same as the e12r. Hopefully there will be some updates to the website soon but I think it is not possible to buy it yet. For the aliexpress website, I don’t think I have heard anyone buying it on aliexpress before. It could be from a seaprate distributor and it may be an older stock. Personally I will wait for the new website so I can customize the emitters and use the new upgrades such as the switch.
I got a reply from Firefly:
Have a good day!
Yes, we have the choice for E12R with Nichia 219b 4500k on our new site: https://www.firefly-outdoor.com/ , but our site is being upgraded and will reopen this week, later you can place the order on the site.
Thanks for your loving of our lights.
I like it that it has USB-C charging. How much was the discount when it was on sale? TIA
And buy 2.
You’ll thank me later.
Wow that is a great news! Actually I think the usb charging for the fireflies lights is under-rated! It actually uses a really nice constant current battery buck converter battery charger at 2A and so it should work with almost all usb ports and usb c - c cable. Compare with actual external battery charger that actually usually use ‘pulsed’ current to charge battery.
For the led choice, do you consider Nichia 519a? The reason why I say is because the 219b is very rosy and nice but quite inefficient. The 519a is a very nice neutral white but more efficient so it will be a bit brighter but still very good colour and tint.
Thanks everyone! I signed up for the notification for the new website opening.
An led question - I bought the E07 I have with the XPL Hi V3 1A 6500k LED because I really wanted to see how much light I could get on the trail from a tiny light (spec about 6800). Loved it!
I ordered the E12R in a group buy when it was first coming out and advertised as being around 13,000 lumens. I decided to try a different led, the LH351D 5700K for a slightly better tint and color temperature, as it was still advertised as being 13000 lumens.
When I got it, I loved the light…but was really underwhelmed by the output. I know its a bit floodier, but aide by side with my E07, the output looked about the same :(. I know that Fireflies corrected the output specs soon after that. Grr.
I’m tempted to try the Nichia 519A 5700k, as its listed as having the same output as the XPL hi…but I REALLY don’t want to be disappointed in the output again.
Is the 519a really as bright as the XPL hi??
I cannot confirm how bright the E12R will be but I think the 519a has a lot of benefits because it has really nice overall tint (much nicer than lh351d in general), and also have a lower V_fwd compared to lh351d or sst20 or xpl-hi. The lumen per watt of the 519a is maybe not quite as good as xpl hi, which means on regulated mode it may not be as bright, but on turbo in the same flashlight it should be brighter than xpl hi.
Also the optic has a lot to do with how bright it looks. The e12r optic is a bit more floody, so the hotspot will not look as bright and it may look less impressive even if there are more lumens. Also keep in mind the e12r driver has a few more components inside such as reverse polarity protection fet and current sense resistor, so the output on turbo may be lower than other simpler flashlights, with the benefit that it can probably run in turbo for longer (e.g. 1 minute instead of 15 seconds). It will also help if you buy a really high drain battery like molicel 42 or 45 if you want the max turbo.
Personally I think turbo on fet is a gimmick and I much prefer sustained good long runtimes at high brightness. The 519a is the best high cri option right now.
1lumen did a test with e12r and nichia 219b lumen and was 6564 lumens on turbo. I also found this page that SKV89 did a test on e12r and he later comment about e07. Both using 219b leds, the e12r measures 4319 lumens and the e07 was 3000 lumens with his lumen tube which he says may read a bit lower than usual. Fireflies E12R, NOV-MU, T9R, T1R prototype test results. I am not surprised about the big difference in numbers because fet mode is unregulated and depends a lot on many conditions. For example, how clean is the screw thread? How warm is your battery and what voltage did you charge it to? A warm molicel 42 charged to 4.25V will be much power powerful (more than 2x or 3x or even higher) on turbo compared to a cold samsung 50e charged to 4.15V.
Thanks! All good (and known) info 
So basically, you’re second sentence - “but on turbo in the same flashlight it should be brighter than xpl hi” is what I’m looking for, if that can be confirmed.
Thanks again.
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I got a reply from Firefly:
Have a good day!
Yes, we have the choice for E12R with Nichia 219b 4500k on our new site: https://www.firefly-outdoor.com/ , but our site is being upgraded and will reopen this week, later you can place the order on the site.
Thanks for your loving of our lights.
In my experience, the concrete statement “We will reopen later this week!”, when coming from overseas businesses ACTUALLY means “We will probably open some time in the next few months…”
I’m tempted to order a FF E07X instead of the Emisar D4K/D4S because it has by far a superior driver but I’m afraid the light I’ll order will either have the wrong emitters installed, either will have a different color of the anodization or will not arrive at all.
1) Unlikely to have the wrong emitters unless you requested for a tint mix. Most users who requested for custom aux layout/tint mixing got the wrong layout.
2) There won’t be different anodisation because only black is available at the moment. Expect some kind of uneven anodisation which is normal…
3) 2 to 3 months delivery time seems to be the norm for FireFlies. Your flashlight will come to you but you have to wait….
In my case, (PL09 Quad) everything arrived as ordered but there was soldering flux on two of the emitters. Not only were there black spots, there was a deep pit in one of the leds. I dedomed the emitters to “fix” the problem. Now I have a tint that I like, but I lost a lot of output.
So, the Fireflylite US site is up! Can I assume that shipping time from items stocked in the US site and warehouse will arrive sooner than shipping from China?
I find it interesting that the US site doesn’t make any claims to lumen output - I wonder if that’s because of different business regulations…like, the ones that require you be honest in your advertising, lol.
I just received my E12R with dedomed 519A 2700k with the updated ultra low moonlight mode driver. You can contact Fireflies or leave a message when you order to have them dedome the emitters. If you dedome a 519A 5700k, it should look very similar to the 219B sw45k, which is very rosy. The E07X Pro is very different from the E07. It uses the super efficient LUME driver and can regulate much higher output than the E07. Also the E07X Pro uses a very throwy optic that I think is 10 deg vs the E07 which was 30 or 45deg. I don’t have an E07X Pro yet but I intend to get one later.
To quote Jack Nicholson, “I’d be the luckiest man in the world if that did it for me…”
However, referring back to my OP, im not looking for rosy tint, but pure output in lumens. Don’t care about tint. And I already have an E07 which works great and I like it. Just wanting an E12r with something close to the stated 12k lumens.
Happy to know that Fireflies is willing to do such custom work, though.
I just told Jack to see if he can get the new XPL HI variant. If so, we should easily see 12k+ lumens using the Molicel P45B
Yeah good call about the new XP-L, the E12C could probably do something like 36A at turn ON with them, 3A per LED, 6500K V3 would do 1000lm, 12000 lm, 10000~10500 OTF.
The E12R would do less due to higher circuit resistance, someone made a comparison on reddit.
If you warm up your Molicel to 45C and overcharge it to 4.3V, you can push a lot more current, but please be careful!
I did not know this. Does the pulsed charging current actually cause more battery wear than a constant current charge? If so, by what degree?
I like 219b, especially sw45k. But even sw35k can be nice. Still, not very efficient. I find them best in small EDC applications, momentary use here and there. For more powerful throwers, the clear choice is 519A due to superior efficiency and still a very pleasing tint.
I ended up ordering the sand-colored E12R 519a, 5700k dedomed on 1/10/23….ordered off the U.S. site, but this one is coming from China probably due to the dedoming. Experts seem to say you lose about 20% CCT, so that should put it in the 4500k level?
10% discount for subscribing on the site, although it didn’t come automatically like it was supposed to….had to ask for it by Chat feature, but no problem. Discount made it $112.50….hopefully it arrives in a reasonable time :partying_face: