MMU-X3 2x Triple Carclo optics direct drive 5 mode

Good stuff. But yeah, I’d go for using up that bare copper with more LEDs :slight_smile:

I’ve not measures the amps yet, I’m at work at the moment so ill do it when I get home, I’m thinking 6A?

Yeah I’ll find a way to fit more in!

Nice build James3.

If you’re getting the output you wanted, may I suggest skipping more LEDs and going for bling? This build looks great already, but I think it’s a good candidate for an exposed driver. Take a look at Mattaus’s Medusa project to see the sort of thing I’m talking about. My Medusa You don’t have to use a custom PCB, you could just mount an existing driver up there. Some tidy wiring and you’d have a great conversation piece IMO.

I think we’ve all spent some amount of time (at least a little, maybe a lot) explaining our custom lights to muggles (as ToyKeeper rightly calls them). Having a visible driver with components on it has got to help out with that. If it’s a driver you assembled yourself, so much the better!

It’s a possibility! I’m going to get a solid copper heatink first then I’ll decide the next steps, but the medusa idea seems good!

Hi, great build and a nice light I have the stock version and it feels good in hand to use.
Sorry for my newbness on the moding side of lights but can the xp g2s really churn 1000 lumens ? Each. What ampage are they running at? And why not use xml xpl ?
Thanks !

There are no pre-made triple MCPB for XM- series emitters. XP-L has a large die and a large dome, the dome does not fit under the 20mm optics properly. Trimming the optics results in less light out the front. Removing the dome results in less light out the front. Either way you still have a big die behind the optic - that results in lots of flood to go with all that heat. The dual triple XP-G2 offers a tighter beam and higher efficiency.

I doubt that the light as built is 6000 lumens. Maybe 4000 at startup in a best case scenario using that KK cell? See these posts:
djozz - Crash-testing a XM-L2 and a XP-G2 on copper Sinkpads (post #51)
HKJ - King Kong ICR26650 4200mAh (Gold)

Frankly now that you bring it up, this light seems like it would be extremely hard on a single KK cell, at least for the first minute or so. It might be best to use a high-drain Sony or Efest cell.

Yes as Wight says, the xml would be difficult, however sinkpad does do a triple XML on copper, but it’s large at 32mm or so , optics is the harder part.
I’ve just measured the current at the tailcap which is pulling 4A, so taking into account the leads resistance and the cell not being fully charged I reckon 4.5/5A.
Not measured at the emitter yet.
The driver being direct drive will mean the output will drop the longer you run the light, I’ve ran it for 5 minutes straight on high so far with no heat problems, but I can see a slight drop in output to my eye.

Hoping for +6A at the emitters?!

A yeah I didnt think about space for the optics, that would make an xm xpl setup rather large. Thank you

Are you using an off the shelf driver? Would you mind telling me what it is and is moonmode avaliable ?

I’m just using a cheap DD 5 mode, about £3, it does have the blinkies (strobe-SOS) which I’d rather not have.
It’s a bit hit and miss if you get a ‘good egg’ with the driver, some are DD but some say the driver is only pulling about 2A
Moonlight isn’t Avaliable only H-M-L-strobe-sos
I’ll be putting a better driver in when I decide which one

I take this to mean that you are using stock DMM leads?

Yes

Moonlight will look very pretty……… which is good ya know when you just want to stare into those eyes ! 6 moonlit beasties. Nice.

So you are using one dd driver for all 6. Would the same driver work on just 3?

How low is low on your setup, roughly.

Thanks for the info.

Yes 1 driver, and it would work on 3, or just 1 led, low is about 2-300 lumens? So with just 1 triple I’d guess about 150 Lumens maybe

Thanks, thats cool, 150 lumens is a great walkaround level and good runtime with 26650… Not sure im clever enough to understand how it can be used on multiple different set ups, do the leds just pull what they want then ?

Yes, it’s direct drive, so whatever battery you use will pull what it needs, so you will get more output with an IMR high drain battery if you want less output you could use a normal 18650, or 26650 in this case.
I wouldn’t set up just 1 20mm triple in this light though, it would seem like a bit of a waste of space in the head you could maybe put a triple and a couple of single led with TIR lens’ as well?
It’s all about experimenting though!

Cool beans, well my mmu x3 is staying stock at the minute, I like the temp controlled brightness and run times. I have a cheap dual emitter/ reflector light coming though that I thought about a twin tripple, then found your light ! Its sorta given me more incentive to go for it :wink:
Might be a silly question but why did you dump the 3 xml2 setup? Just for fun im guessing, thats what its all about eh !

I had 2! So I thought I may as well experiment with it, It is one of my favourite shaped lights and I like the 26650 as well!

Well thats just being greedy now aint it?
:stuck_out_tongue:
Good work man , love it. Maybe finish with some trit……