There were quite a few cases where we verified their numbers to be grossly exaggerated. Even more than doubled. They never corrected them.
Here they may have taken TA numbers. But they rounded them up. And they surely know that removing spring bypasses reduces output. And I think that someone found that they use worse LEDs.
So no, their numbers are not exaggerated because they are unable to get correct ones. They are intentionally misleading.
So maybe you should not buy it, or maybe wait a few tests to know the exact values
of light.
I already ordered. I did so with full awareness that I don’t know the output. I find it very likely that it will be well worth the price and accept the risk that it may not.
I don’t like being lied to. And I don’t waste a good occasion to call it out.
But it doesn’t stop me from making business when I think the business is good.
In a way I vote with my wallet, but weakly. I don’t refuse deals with dishonest sellers but take the uncertainty into account when making decisions.
I think you’ll love the light Agro. :+1:
I hope so. 
MT09R is great light, relation between price and power is great.
From 3x xhp70.2 and 3x deep reflector the real range is 600m.
For 125$ you get 17-18 klm on output real neutral light ( 144lm for 1$ )
If someone want real 25 klm just buy Olight X9R : 600$ for 25 klm ( 42 lm for 1$ )
Probably in cool white and also the range will be closer.
Yes, but what else is new. Everyone knows rated specs are almost always exaggerated.
For those that want to know real numbers there are places like BLF and CPF (?) That will actually test it.
I think the average consumer does not care about exact numbers. It says 24,000 lumen. They buy it and it fries their eyeballs and they say, yeah, that is sure bright! Must be 24,000 lumen. Lol
It is always buyer beware.
We do. But many don’t. You can see many reviews of people who are actually impressed by those 20000 lumen $20 zoomies.
What manufacturers do is wrong. We can push against it. Showing real numbers is the best thing that we can do.
But I think generating bad publicity where it’s well deserved is a good thing too.
Woah, 20,000 lumen from a maybe 500 lumen light? That’s 40 times too high. I think it’s 975% too high. (My math might be sketchy on this)
Haikelite seems to be maybe 20% to 25% too high on their 24k spec.
That’s two very different situations, but I see your point. I prefer accurate specs myself.
Still is funny how a couple of years ago you had Skyray King clones with 12 emitters advertised as a 20000 lumen lights. Today, soda can lights actually produce 20000 lumens, and it’s quite affordable as well. :sunglasses:
That factory bypass! :person_facepalming: 
Has anyone received the replacement driver for MR09 yet?
It’s been well over a month and still no news.
I know some members have received theirs.
I recived for me and for one person from Poland.