Nitecore TM36 Luminus SBT-70 LED NBP52 Rechargeable Battery Flashlight 1.1km

Group buy?

Well at least cheaper than this :bigsmile:

Wow. NiteCore really wants to take the leap into the single-emitter Thrower class, but with a high price. if it wasn’t for the difficult to reach price range this would be a great light to mod to see how far i can be made to throw a beam.

Surefire, always taking it to the next level. Pretty sure this was their inspiration.

i can think of many more things to spend a grand on than an over-priced, over-rated Surefire. :bigsmile:

At the moment, we can arrange cpn only - bigmonster. Thanks

3.45 x 3.45mm is the size of the substrate (same as XT-E & XP-G/XP-G2), not the die size.

I blame the wiki. I'm having trouble finding the actual die size. Nvm, I found it.

ooh my god the price :open_mouth:

It uses a battery pack.

why oh why is has built in battery pack? why not 8 18650s ? :_(

Fairly reasonable price considering the tm26 is about 1/3 the size and ~$250. A lot more machine work in this monster and the proprietary battery pack (I don’t really see why the battery pack is a bad thing, Nitecore uses good cells afaik).

You won’t hear about me spending Five Hundo on a flashlight though (even with as cool as it would be to have chilling on my computer desk :slight_smile: ).

8 2300mAh batteries. Makes no sense whatsoever.

i like the sbt70 led and the looks of the light, but the built in battery pack is just dumb and probably adds $100 to the price if not more

I don’t know why the Nitecore adapted NBP-52 battery pack TM36.
NBP-52 is just 2300mAh. But Olight provides SR95S-UT with 2600mAh!!

Anyway where is TM20? I’m waiting for that!

What was Nitecore thinking?? :Sp The crappy cell pack with low capacity cells are preventing me from buying. I searched but couldn’t find anyone that modded the pack to accommodate a removable cell carrier. Has anyone found a way to mod this cell pack yet?

Nitecore makes some nice lights and I have some of them but at the high end they tend to be overpriced, at least to me. As for the battery pack, how many customers can be expected to try and scrimp on batteries or make sure that they are properly balanced for eight batteries? Once lights reach eight batteries there seems to be a tendency to go with battery packs rather than battery holders for using purchaser supplied batteries and I suspect that in part it is to reduce technical problems and customer risk as well as an attempt at idiot proofing.

I can see both sides of the argument… having to maintain 8 individual cells for some people could be a major pain in the butt… say this light was going to be used for search and rescue or for some other nightly shift/task etc. - in practical terms, including a large battery pack that someone can plug in at the end of each shift/night instead of 8 individual batteries makes things stupid simple…

however with convenience comes cost, hence the high price… hell… even the GB price is a lot of $ to shell out

If I could buy just the head of this light for use with a TM11 bottom I would… of course then it would be top heavy… so theres that to consider I guess.

I have had the chance to test this light (lumen/throw) for a CPF member - it is quite nice in terms of build quality and feel… and it has a CRAP ton of heatsinking… probably more than any light ive seen except for maybe the BTU shocker… its quite heavy as well…

I dont think anyone who is willing to shell out the $ will be disappointed really… so long as you know you are basically buying a 4-5D mag lite sized light haha.

The problem I see with this light, is the performance for the price. A modded K40 will beat it in throw, and be just shy in terms of lumens.

In terms of battery packs, there is definitely something to be said for simplicity. I don't have to match batteries, or keep separate sets for my RC40 like I do for my X60's, and that's just 6 batteries.

Still, I really don't understand why the manufacturers don't make the packs with higher capacity batteries.

Cells are in parallel, not series. Even a 12 x 18650 cell carrier would be a non-issue for most people who would pony up for a light of this type and price range. Its a specialty item geared for enthusiasts and not something you would find in a battlefield or the back of a patrol car. Nor is it a light that any experienced and properly trained SAR team would ever use or stock in its inventory because of its ridiculous size and weight. By far, the majority market is squarely aimed at the enthusiast, not the professional. If the customer follows the minimum cell requirements (such as has been mandated and already well proven by Acebeam in their 6 x 18650 flashlight with battery carrier) the customer is immediately and richly rewarded with higher cell capacities of their choosing, the ability to swap cells without having to purchase grossly overpriced/low capacity proprietary cell packs, and can continue to reap the rewards of higher capacity cells as newer and better offerings are brought to market. If you search the many other threads spanning several hundred posts on the TM36, you will find that the NBP52 battery pack is the one big mega-fail that has prevented many people from purchasing this light.

Also, all TM series 4 cell lights are configured in parallel and battery tubes are interchangeable with the TM36, so unless you’re using a cheap charger and/or cheap cells that dont terminate consistently with the same ending voltage (which could be potentially dangerous in any multi-celled light), its no more or less dangerous than any other parallel configured 18650 flashlight. As with many other potential buyers of the TM36, I would have purchased one if it came equipped with an 8 x 18650 carrier or was offered as an optional purchase item. Nitecore failed again by not listening to the many complaints of its customers by not offering an 8 cell carrier option.

The 4 cell carriers work with this light but make it nose heavy and off-balanced. As others have also mentioned, you can run the TM36 on a single 18650 in a pinch at the lower levels if you desired (with massive voltage sag).