PP etiquette?

[DavidEF]

@avservice

@DavidEF

Yeah, I specifically said PayPal charges those fees. I wasn’t trying to imply that the seller has anything to do with it. But it still is a consideration when purchasing from someone using PayPal. OP wasn’t talking specifically about the seller charging a fee for PayPal usage. He was talking about PayPal fees and asking who should pay those.

Understood but there is no Etiquette consideration involved with the Money Handling Fees imposed by the international Monetary System that would be unexpected or in any way part of the deal between you and a seller.

Likewise there is no Etiquette decision really with the Fees charged to the Seller for using PP and they are already agreed to not pass them on whether they choose to follow through with that or not.

So in the end if the Seller tries to impose fees then it is yours to decide about going on with the deal anyway but there is no real alternative to the fees charged by PP or Banks for using finds across international borders and if those are a deal stopper for you then do not use the service that way.

Again not an Etiquette thing at all,is it?

Um, I’m still not sure you and the OP are talking about the same thing. So, I’ll just say that this ^ post of yours, if taken on its own, I agree with. If it’s to be taken in the context of this thread, then I admit I’m a bit confused at this point.

[avservice]

Maybe that is true?

The way I read the OP though is that the question is about the deal between the Buyer and Seller but the charges from PP that are mentioned for handling the money across international lines really have nothing at all to do with the Seller but are just something a Buyer has to decide to take on to do the deal.

So the OP asks about Etiquette of the deals which these fees have nothing to do with at all.

Anyway if I am not clear enough by now then so be it!

[Firelight2]

@BOO5TED

The way I see it is if you are selling something and take Paypal as a payment option, you should know what fees will be charged and asking price should be set accordingly. Once you sell something and receive payment you can’t go back and cry about the fees, know what you’re getting into before selling.

This.

Sellet should pay the PayPal fee. If you are the seller and want more money to cover the fee, make sure to ask for it up front as part of your quoted cost.

[CJ_Avlis]

@Firelight2

@BOO5TED

The way I see it is if you are selling something and take Paypal as a payment option, you should know what fees will be charged and asking price should be set accordingly. Once you sell something and receive payment you can’t go back and cry about the fees, know what you’re getting into before selling.

This.

Sellet should pay the PayPal fee. If you are the seller and want more money to cover the fee, make sure to ask for it up front as part of your quoted cost.

YUP!!

[jon_slider]

As the buyer, I just paid paypal a 4% currency exchange fee, to buy something internationally.

Paypal also charged the seller a separate fee of 5%.

the seller did not ask me to pay his paypal fees, he did ask me to pay for his actual shipping costs.
I did not ask the seller to pay for my currency exchange fees. I did pay the seller for shipping, plus the goods.

[toddcshoe]

I have both been a seller and a buyer here. Sold lots of stuff and bought lots of stuff. I always know there will be a fee charged by PayPal. I might add a few bucks to the price to help with those fees but I have never asked for extra for shipping or PayPal fees. I don’t sell stuff for profit so I am not watching any margins for anything. I don’t normally sell overseas and I don’t normally buy from overseas. BG and Ali being the exceptions. On my giveaways I will ship anywhere. It’s a giveaway, not much of a giveaway if I restrict who is “in”.

I have run into a few people who didn’t want to use PayPal at all. We just did a bank to bank transfer. Some people might not feel comfortable doing that but, I have never had a issue. One guy wanted to send a check. That was fine with me, it was a small item so I shipped it before his check arrived. It all worked out just fine.

PayPal offers some nice protection for it’s customers and provides a safe place to send and receive money, even if it’s not US dollars. I don’t mind any of their fees. I had upgraded my account to, hell I forget the name, but it’s a actual checking account with a debit card and the whole nine yards. I also got the PayPal credit card. Saves me money sometimes when I purchase certain items sometimes.

I have looked at other money transfer sites. None of them as easy as PayPal. The fees are not identical but they are close. Some don’t have any consumer protections if things go wrong. Some do.

It is what it is. If you are selling, have just one price, shipped and fees included. Unless it’s going overseas. The simpler we make it the simpler it is.

[Boaz]

Don't send friends and family to an overseas seller ..Not because you don't trust them .. because it will cost you more than if you simply sent them a few extra bux to cover some of the fees .

Etiquette is a interesting way of asking the question . I agree with Toddcshoe that adding a couple bucks is a simple way of saying to a fellow member that you understand the fact he will have to get hit with paypal fees . I've had lots of people send me just a few extra $ and after being on the receiving end of peoples kindness I realize it's the absolute correct thing to be doing . It costs exactly 2 bucks to do something nice for someone else .

I'm highly amused when asked what people think about shills working all over this forum ..The great majority claim that they have no issue whatsoever with someone gaining a few bucks while they score a great deal ... AND yet when they actually have to hand over cash physically their butts tighten up and they get all skittish .

Etiquette ? Yeah BLF members ought to show simple kindness ...and Sellers ought to add a tasty treat with every flashlight sold ....and encourage people to do 1000 post giveaways

If BLF wants to stand apart ....this is where it begins .

[DavidEF]

@Boaz

Don't send friends and family to an overseas seller ..Not because you don't trust them .. because it will cost you more than if you simply sent them a few extra bux to cover some of the fees .

Etiquette is a interesting way of asking the question . I agree with Toddcshoe that adding a couple bucks is a simple way of saying to a fellow member that you understand the fact he will have to get hit with paypal fees . I've had lots of people send me just a few extra $ and after being on the receiving end of peoples kindness I realize it's the absolute correct thing to be doing . It costs exactly 2 bucks to do something nice for someone else .

I'm highly amused when asked what people think about shills working all over this forum ..The great majority claim that they have no issue whatsoever with someone gaining a few bucks while they score a great deal ... AND yet when they actually have to hand over cash physically their butts tighten up and they get all skittish .

Etiquette ? Yeah BLF members ought to show simple kindness ...and Sellers ought to add a tasty treat with every flashlight sold ....and encourage people to do 1000 post giveaways

If BLF wants to stand apart ....this is where it begins .

Thanks Boaz! That’s perfect!

[paddling_man]

@Boaz

Don’t send friends and family to an overseas seller …Not because you don’t trust them … because it will cost you more than if you simply sent them a few extra bux to cover some of the fees .

Etiquette is a interesting way of asking the question . I agree with Toddcshoe that adding a couple bucks is a simple way of saying to a fellow member that you understand the fact he will have to get hit with paypal fees . I’ve had lots of people send me just a few extra $ and after being on the receiving end of peoples kindness I realize it’s the absolute  correct thing to be doing . It costs exactly 2 bucks to do something nice for someone else .

I’m highly amused when asked what people think about shills working all over this forum …The great majority claim that they have no issue whatsoever with someone gaining a few bucks while they score a great deal … AND yet when they actually have to hand over cash physically their butts tighten up and they get all skittish .

Etiquette ? Yeah BLF members ought to show simple kindness …and Sellers ought to add a tasty treat with every flashlight sold ….and encourage people to do 1000 post giveaways 

If BLF wants to stand apart ….this is where it begins .

I think I would be honored to meet your parents, Boaz. They clearly did an outstanding job of raising someone with integrity and character.

Cheers