No and no.
I live in the Canary Islands, and here the weather is sunny and warm almost all the days of the year.
The runtimes were not made with the itp A3... where made with the trustfire F23, which draws about the same current than the itp A3 on high.
You can do the measurements with any flashlight which draw about 1.0 Amps (slightly more) on High
I forgot to mention.
The protected cells I have from DX, gave me more than 25 minutes on HIGH without the voltage cutoff of the protection.
I mean: Switch on on high, after 10 minutes the voltage with NO load is 3,6 volt... but the protection kicks 10 or 15 minutes later, when voltage decreases to 2,75
Permabanned? Again? LOL :bigsmile: Who banned you this time? Norm? :bigsmile: Looks like they don't like you :)
Where was I? Aahh, ok :bigsmile: Thanks for those tests. As fran said, I think those runtime tests are quite... strange :| Only 5 min on HI? Waiting other tests as well :P Keep it up.
I can do the test with my Imax. By this manner I can check both the current draw and the cell voltage on load, to see how low the voltage goes under a load of 1Amp
However, your cells seems to be bad
Even with 2 year old cells I get more than 5 minutes runtime to 3,6volt (no load voltage)
but you know that amperage isnt a constant, right?
current increases in a regulated torch when the voltage decreases. this "phenomenon" is the regulation for constant brightness, see the graphs by HKJ:
see the red lines in for example the Klarus example:
http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Klarus%20Mi%20X6%20UK.html
You cannot simulate this discharge behavior with an IMAX B6 i guess. i will do tests on medium etc. and compare my results..
Yes, but...
Most flashlights which use AAA and 10440, are regulated with AAA and "direct drive" (or similar) with 10440.
So, with AAA, you can see that current increases as voltage decreases.
With 10440, not neccesary. I will measure the current draw in the A3 with a fresh charged 10440 cell and with another cell at 3,6 volt of resting voltage...
I "think" that when fully charged it will draw about 1A and then it will start to decrease the current draw (current will decrease as battery voltage decreases)
With the imax I can test the behaviour with a constant 1A discharge.
to whom it may concern, i’ve completed the Protected 10440’s runtime tests on High-mode and Med-mode for both Tank E09 and iTP A3. The data is important to myself so that i know which runtime performance to expect from my 2pack of cells in my torches. The info maybe relevant to the reader if he/she chooses to use Unprotected 10440’s (e.g. the popular Blue Ultrafire) to get an idea when it’s time to recharge the cells.
Offline voltage should not fall below 3.60V (volts).
Originally Posted by selfbuilt 
Originally Posted by iTP A3 SS/Ti Operator's Manual
Originally Posted by selfbuilt
For our records, here my thoughts how the (old) iTP A3 compares to the (new) Olight i3:
The difficulty with the manufacturer's specs arises from the missing info regarding the used cells. In selfbuilt's, HKJ's and my own tests, if we take Eneloop cells as point of reference then the red runtimes are way too optimistic (iTP A3 XP-G R5 runtime on Low is less than 19 hours!!!) while the green runtimes are a little too conservatively spec'ed. I dont own the Olight i3 so i cannot test the i3 XP-G runtime on Low. But since it's "2.5lm" (i.e. "0.7lm brighter" than the A3 XP-G R5), it is safe to assume that it will be much less than 19 hours. My guesstimate off the top of my head would be 14 hours instead of the spec'ed "20 hours".
Regarding the performance, the old iTP A3 beats the new Olight i3, which is surprising:
High: A3 is noticeably brighter, A3 runs a little longer
Medium: A3 is slightly brighter, A3 runs a little longer
Low: i3 is slightly brighter, A3 runs "much" longer
The A3 is smaller and lighter than the i3.
The A3 has the much better keyring attachment point (but the i3 can tailstand).
The A3 exists in "Stainless Steel" and also "Titanium Alloy" (=not 100% Titanium!!), and both "non-Aluminum" versions are still being sold on the market.
The A3 has an extensive track record which testifies to doubts about durability and longevity.
The A3 has official support for unprotected 10440's (the wording in the A3 manual is "Battery: 1 x AAA, 1 x Rechargeable NiMh AAA, or 1 x 10440" etc.); what does the i3 manual say exactly?
The A3 keyring attachment point didnt seem very sturdy .. but if you got the A3 EOS SS or the A3 EOS TI there is no reason to worry about it any longer.
Various internet resources, user reports and reviews confirm that the i3 is not as bright as the A3 and users dont need to be puzzled. Even the official lumens specs tell us about the brightness difference on High-mode.
On the other hand, the i3 really excels in 2 features:
The i3 can tailstand (The A3 can tailstand only on even flat 100% horizontal planes) -- but then again, there is no commercial 14mm diffuser available. I've checked already typical China-based etailers (KD, DD, DX, MF, HKE).
The i3 has a fantastic pocket clip -- but then again, it is not reversible. (the A3 has a lol pocket clip but at least it is indeed reversible, even though there is no explicit body groove like in the Maratac).
The i3 does not come in SS or Ti and therefore will look more banged up after a while riding on a keychain than the older versions (A3 SS, A3 Ti).
What could be criticized about the A3 is its tint. There is nothing wrong with the tint. With no comparison light at hand you would never think that the light looks greenish. The greenish tendency is way too subtle. However, if you compare different XP-G R5 lights and their white ceiling bounce, then lol yes the A3 is unfortunately somewhat greenish 
. Cree XP-G R5 CoolWhite can have a wide range of perceptible greenishness. The A3 has no readily perceptible greenishness .. at least that's the case with my sample.
i hope this was fast enough. hehe..
The Stainless steel itself is an alloy, Aircraft Aluminum and it's variants are alloys, Titanium is sold in alloys, usually TC4 and it's significantly stronger than pure Titanium, and even some than some common steels. However ITP didn't mentioned which Titanium Alloy is used for the A3.
Wish I could find the Olight/iTP A3 in "standard" configuration with no modes.
That was one of my favorite lights. Out of production now.
To whom it may concern:
when you order the "ITP A3" from Dinodirect, DD will actually ship the "Olight I3" (click on picture!), see:
The above picture is a recent one (2012-07-07), and it makes sense because i think that the ITP A3 is not being produced any longer. Afaik the ITP A3 is out-of-print. You can use this post's info to your advantage, experienced DD shoppers know what i am talking about (whatever that means) good luck!!
;)
Thanks for this kreisler!!
I maybe will order one for a gift
Cool, the Olight is better than the ITP. I own both.
Sorry to revive such an old topic but this seems to be the main topic for the iTP EOS A3, and when I did a forum search this topic turned up as the most relevant as well as Google’s #1 search hit.
Was there some kind of last generation redesign of iTP EOS A3 with a different keyring clasp, higher lumen output, and price reduction? That among other minor differences in what I’ve seen as genuine iTP EOS A3, BEFORE they switched to Olight branding, makes me wonder if the following are fake?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/iTP-A3-EOS-C…s/141606898311
What do you think? Here is the website that some of them link to:
http://itpled.com/products
WAIT. I think I see what i going on here, IF it is true, Quote: ” iTP brand and product lines were then aquired by Aimkon Outdoors, a US based LED Flashlight Company. ” so are they just slapping the iTP brand on a generic Chinese clone, or was the iTP brand even sold to this company?
Hope it is a update of the Olight i3s. If I remember correct
hkequipment sold a version of the ITP A2 with G2 emitter?
Or did they just put a 3 volt battery in a NOS ITP A3?
^ No, not just an emitter change, not NOS either. There are many subtle differences from knurling to font to tube machining to driver and more. From what I can gather, an importer named A I M K O N (no spaces) has registered the ITP trademark 3 years ago and is selling lights made by someone else, the same company that makes Tank007 lights, labeled as ITP EOS A3 but they have no real relation to Olight, just lower quality almost-clones (in appearance and name) of Olight’s old model. They claim 130 lumens and 1.6 hrs but that doesn’t seem right either. Yes LEDs keep getting more efficient but you can’t have both that AND 50% longer runtime.