Review: Xeno E03 XM-L (Pic heavy, beamshots)

I run TF flames in mine... Are you saying it will be brighter with IMRS?

Yes, because it's direct drive at that voltage and IMRs can push out more current.

My flames pull 1.50 on high. If it will make this beast any brigther, i'll buy some IMR'S.

Where is the best place to get them? I seen lighthound has a few differernt types of IMR 14500's.

Got a link?

I bought some imr's from bestinone for a e03 that's on the way. I think they're some of the cheapest around. I've heard they're all about the same quality.

My TF Flames pull 1.7x amps when fresh and the BIO IMRs get me 1.8x amps. Not a lot of difference. On the 980L/Ultrafire XM-L P60 I can get nearly 3 amps. These readings are definitely not very accurate (according to HKJ) but good enough as a basis for comparison. Think they could have changed the driver, mitro reported 2.4A on the AW IMRs.

Anyway agenthex, you gotta cycle your TF 14500s perhaps 2 cycles. 1.2A is really too low.

I tried it again w/ cell in better state of charge, and it's 1.6-1.0-0.3. 2.4A is certainly within expectation for DD, and I don't see what they could've changed. But then 1.8 isn't out of the realm of possibly for higher Vf emitter (WW?) and slightly weaker cells.

Impossible to get that price anymore. Sorry.

Hm, I think my Xeno will be given away then. D'oh! :bigsmile:

I'll buy it if you decide to sell it

:bigsmile: I am lucky to be enjoying such an great light because I didn't think I needed another 14500 light. WOW!... the power.... and the BEAM WOW!..... beautiful neutral color and WOW! quite a hotspot one of the best IMHO!

(only wish it had a lower low) I would buy ANOTHER !!!

It has replaced my TerraLux 2 AAA Lightstar neutral / LumpPower Trust 2 "regular EDC' and my 'more discreet EDC' a new XM-L LumaPower Incendio.

If you already have spent the $$$ on a 14500 cell & charger, @ <$40 shipped it's worth scraping up the $$$... finding quarters in the couch....$$ in pants or jacket pocket .... save $10 a week for a month etc.... whatever it takes.. even if you dont have a 14500 cell charger spend that extra $25 and get this light!!!

once you own one you'll see. I'm glad made the move!!!

I'm from Spain, Zeros. Sending it to you will cost you another Xeno :~ Yup, I don't understand why it so expensive.

IT really is a great light. Last night I decided to bring it along for a fireworks event at a dark place and brought it along. While standing on a raised platform, i suddenly raised my hands and lost grip (did not use the lanyard) so much so that it was thrown forwards so that it'd land about 3m away from me and also the height from hand-to-floor is 4m....i think i saw it spun around a few times when it hit. Did not even flicker a bit, no issue.

Anyway on this topic, I don't know if this has been posted here before (QA/QC drop test) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZrH2ALjNrE

Seriously I don't know why some are still against these cheap chinese lights.

You seem to end up throwing your lights a lot. At dogs, during fireworks, etc. Have you thought about carrying some insurance on that TK70? :bigsmile:

Good one! I seem to recall the post about throwing a light at a dog also :P

Yep, I was watching last night's National Day fireworks (very nice searchlights as well, lit up the whole damn sky I think easily 50 of them total in addition to Marina Bay Sands by Las Vegas Sands). Not only lights, but my cameras as well. But that is for $$$ usage, so no issue, all factored in and expected. LOL!

Pretty normal fireworks and I think they cut the budget by a lot this year, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DanqUUjREM (btw it is the same place where they do the Formula 1 night race). You see those tall buildings? That's about 2km, still trying to hit those targets more visibly, it is not easy to hit them with a really visible shot due to light pollution.

Searchlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsstMy0Dn8Y

Of course naturally for the expensive lights, i'd be much more careful. And I make sure i never drop HIDs, they will probably never survive any fall, being plastic.

I got mine today. Nice! I can't seem to see any difference between high and medium when using a TF 14500? Anyone else notice this?

I got the warm white. I can see the difference when using an eneloop.

You can measure the difference. It's something like only a 70% ratio on lithiums, but significantly different on nihm.

I thought about doing that but was feeling lazy.

1.4 a

.94a

.28a

Must be my eyes. I can't see any noticeable difference. Battery is at 3.89 V. Might recharge it and try again.

Speaking of laziness, I was wondering how this driver actually worked, since PWM drivers usually have constant fixed ratios. I tried shaking it fast, but didn't see any telltale signs (broken trail), which means if it's pwm, it's at least quite fast frequency (uses more power, but less visible). A camera might help, but I didn't bother checking.

Also, 30 to 40% is only like 15-20% apparent difference in logarithmic brightness.

E03 doesn't use PWM.

Do you know what driver chip/setup it does use?

This claims it's a linear driver, but that's clearly untrue:

http://tacticalhid.info/e03