If the measurements for the Manker in this thread are correct then they are not the same optic. But pretty close lights overall in terms of the new and awesome category of pocket throwers. 
It’s great to have all these choices now…wasn’t that many years ago that something like this was unheard of.
Very good point about wall shots, especially with thrower beams. You can see some things even with the intensity, but yes, outside is where they show the differences. And that’s really where throwers should be tested and compared anyway, right.