I think the pattern is the same, it’s just that the dome has a more textured finish on the bottom one which obscures the dots.
nice video. there are obvious differences on those LEDs, ( the ordered XM-L2 and what you actually received.
Can anyone confirm if this is real or fake?
!http://i59.tinypic.com/o59hj9.jpg!
Bought this from wholeup.
Thank you
judging by the smooth substrate coating, the square pads beneath the bond wires it looks like a LB LED. (fake LED) it the tint & output seems to be more blueish & harsher then its likely a fake.
EDIT: - I am noticing an unusual non-consistient edge to the phosphor coating over the die on that one too, adding to the lower quality control of the fake Crees.
http://www.tmart.com/CREE-LED-XM-L-T6-1200LM-5-Modes-LED-Flashlight-Electric-Torch_p129252.html
Other than having a hollow pill, this Tmart C8 has a fake Cree.
Recently I had received another flashlight with counterfeit CREE XM-L2 LED. This time it was a bicycle headlights. So be careful with chinese stores!
Do you have a close up bigger photo of that unknown LED? it almost looks like a fake 3535 type emitter. ( much smaller than a real XM-L
It looks the would-be XP-L led that popped up in the recent SRK clones everywhere. I tested it here (it comes after the XP-L Hi test): https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/35024
DBSAR, here it is:
The white square has sides of 3,5 mm.
djozz, yes - my led is the same as yours!
Indeed it does. And great test and info on the fake xpl too. It shoes how bad they are when it comes to efficiency & performance compared to Cree emitters.
I’ve checked the New Arrivals @ DX (http://www.dx.com/new-arrivals?cate=1307) and all flashlights have no mention of “CREE” neither in the headline nor in the description. Eg. it says “Emitter Brand: Others” or “Emitter Brand: N/A”. Some examples:
http://www.dx.com/p/fandyfire-flashlight-led-xph50-long-range-outdoor-household-rechargeable-flashlight-12-6v-408996#.VgWVPFMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/fandyfire-l2-t6-3-mode-1000lm-cool-white-rotatable-switch-diving-flashlight-black-1x26650-408949#.VgWTdFMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/lightscastle-xm-l-t6-5-mode-600lm-cool-white-flashlight-w-clip-black-1-x-18650-408800#.VgWTrVMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/zhishunjia-a2-t6-xm-l-t6-led-800lm-5-mode-neutral-white-flashlight-w-keychain-golden-1-x-18650-408832#.VgWTwVMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/zhishunjia-u1-usb-q5-xp-e-240lm-neutral-white-light-led-flash-light-black-407050#.VgWT3FMyl-I
Since there is no fake xhp-50 ? at least this one should be a CREE. But those “XM-L T6” / “XM-L2 T6” or “XP-E Q5” could be LatticeBright or else.
Some of those lights aren’t that cheap, so there is the chance that all have CREE’s nevertheless.
I wonder what’s behind the decision of DX to avoid naming the emitter brand…
Interesting.
looks like they are beginning to hear us and our discovery of these fake LEDs, but i do notice they are still using the Cree LED type names or part of them, ( XM-L , T6, L2, etc.
It’s funny to see that DX is actually selling Lightcastle branded product. :bigsmile:
That is funny actually 
As long as they don’t name a Lattice bright as a “cree” emitter, I am fine with whatever name or no name they assign to the emitter….
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20mm-Board-CREE-XML-XML2-T6-U2-10W-High-Power-LED-Emitter-Bulb-For-Flashlight-DIY/616282_32271279885.html
what about this ? seller says its original cree not copy/replica/imitation/fake.
difficult to know there. AlieExpress is known to have some shady sellers as bad as ebay sometimes.
Hank from http://intl-outdoor.com has legit Cree LED.
Just wanted to let you know that the Solarstorm T4 also has fake XM-L inside. If someone allready did, my fault did not want to read the hole thing. I still kinda remember they did not want to swap to XML2 back then because they had a big lot of “XM-L” left, go figure.
Highly suggest everybody to swap the emmiters, makes for an way better light.
I only noticed it beause of my neighbours failed T4, where it had killed 3 out of 4 leds. Didn’t use mine that much.
Made a quick and dirty picture:
It also has a white base.
that’s definitely a LB fake XM-L.