TK's Emisar D4 review

The D4vn has the following specs: Lux 34K, Throw 369m
I guess it’s almost throws as much as the D1.

Either way, I’m waiting for the D1S. Should be ready in a week according to Hank.

Oh my god, I need the new blue color.

Oooh. That blue is nice!

Ooh. Do the parts lego, same thread on both colors?

Yes.

My D4 XP-L Hi arrived today from intl outdoor.
Very nice light, especially with the 18350 tube :slight_smile:

Love the gray on that D1s. That’s a new color right?

Just got a d1 out of the mailbox.

Congrats :+1: , that was quick……………pics and impressions a must :smiley:

It’s bad enuf the m43 is the cream of the crop and I have almost all versions available, but then this comes along and 50 pages later I settle for the best and most expensive model available. Then out comes a blue color (my favorite), so now I have to get a nichia version xpg3…etc etc. here we go agin

I do wonder a little at those throw numbers. In a later post, Vinh switched back to an unmodded optic and measured 37k lux.

From the reviews earlier the XPG2 version of the D4 has 13k lux throw. Vinh’s version uses dedomed XPG2s. If Vinh’s numbers are accurate, then his swapping in dedomed emitters basically tripled the throw. I’ve heard of dedoming increasing throw by 70, but never 300.

You and me both then! At max you’d double the throw with a dedome, so I have a hard time believing those numbers… Unless he uses the old XP-G2 and they somehow goes way beyond doubling the throw.

I need to measure the throw on mine to see if the 13k candela is accurate.

Nice, thank you for reply :slight_smile:

Woah… shipping faster than expected. Got ship notice for my pre-ordered D1 from Mountain Electronics on Monday.

It arrived in my hands in California today on Wednesday. :sunglasses:

Mine is waiting at home for me.

I believe the stock optic (10621) is the most narrow-beam option available for this application (10mm quad optic). The 10622 is the “mid-range” and the 10623 is the most floody.

Here you can see the comparative beam shots for each:

10621
10622
10623

:beer:

EDIT: It has been determined that the stock optic on the D4 is actually the mid-range Carclo 10622, not the 10621 as initially described. :+1:

Just received my D4 from Mountain Electronics… and holy crap this thing is bright! For how small it is, it really shells out some serous light. Along with that light, it has an incredible amount of heat. I got the XP-L Hi 3A and this thing gets hot FAST on turbo. I have a triple Convoy S6 with XP-L V6’s with a FET in it and it doesn’t heat up nearly as fast as this light does. This D4 is a true hot rod.

I even got the shorter 18350 tube for kicks and giggles, and the light/heat is still staggering. It’s so much fun! :smiling_imp:

I do notice it stepping itself down as it heats up. What are the specs on the temperature limits as when it goes down further, and by how much?

I now understand why ToyKeeper kept reiterating about the lock-out mode in the review. I’ll definitely be using that religiously with this light. :+1:

I’ve been curious too, so I finally measured. My setup measures at 5m then calculates back to 1m. I have the light and meter both raised, above carpet, and obstacles on both sides of the path, to prevent spill from bouncing into the meter… so it only picks up the hotspot. This may result in lower throw values than what some people measure, but it better represents how the light should perform outdoors. (in contrast, one of the worst ways to measure throw is by aiming down a long white hallway with a hard floor, since much of the spill will bounce off the walls/floor and hit the meter)

I got 28.6 kcd at start on my D4vn with a 30Q fresh off the charger. Or 25.4 kcd at start with a 25R at 3.9V. These numbers can be compared to the throw measurements in this thread’s OP.

Since these are at start on maximum power on a very overpowered light, the throw drops very quickly due to heat and voltage sag. During regular use, you can expect significantly less throw (unless you only use the light ~3 seconds at a time, on max turbo). However, the D1 and D1S should be far less prone to heat and voltage sag, so their throw during normal use should be much closer to the throw at start.

For something somewhat similar to a D1 or D1s, I measured my BLF X6v2. I got 55 kcd at start with 30Q after using the cell for a D4 test, or 47.6 kcd with a 25R at 3.9V (also after running a D4 test).

I also took some pics of the beam compared to the 219c model. The camera used daylight white balance, and the pictures show pretty much how the beam looks to me in real life. Pictures haven’t been edited at all except to resize them. Both lights were running at the 100%–7135 level, ~140 lm.

Left: D4vn. Right: D4-219c.


The temperature limit is whatever you set it to, with a default of 45 C (ish, uncalibrated sensor). It steps down proportional to what it thinks the temperature will be in a few seconds, or steps up by one ramp level at a time when the temperature is below the target zone.

If there’s ever a v3 using my newer code, it’ll also step up proportionally instead of just one ramp level at a time… and the adjustments are much much more smooth so they’re difficult to see by eye.

However, if you were to do five output graphs on turbo, on the same light, you’d likely get five different results. It depends on a lot of factors… like ambient temperature, the light’s starting temperature, battery type and voltage and age, and noise in the sensor readings. But the five graphs should at least be similar.

Mine hasn’t even been sent yet. :frowning:

(I didn’t order from Mtn though)